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Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 83027
4/26/2006 8:54 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Don't forget it's a big-ass highway. Still, I'll be buying some extra water and making sure my reverse osmosis membrane is up to snuff. (and cleaning my guns) |
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Some1
User ID: 73929
4/26/2006 8:58 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
>Now obviously this thing is "cutting us off" on the space highway right?
No, NOT right.
The comet NEVER crosses the orbit of the Earth. At best, it's more than 4 million miles from us. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 81507
4/26/2006 9:09 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
But it is highly possible that some of the fragments will fly off course, putting them in our way - is it not?
Imagine a slingshot with several pellets - do you think all will travel the same direction? |
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Tante Tillie
User ID: 84345
4/26/2006 9:24 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
And the purring of Some1, whimpering sweet nothings in our ears again. Of course it's lying, sickeningly sweet poison is more pleasant to believe than the truth ! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 10561
4/26/2006 9:30 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
In Some1's defence, according to current calcualtions all the fragments should pass by the Earth at some distance.
However there remains a slim possibility that slower-travelling fragments may still hit the Earth much later.
I think it's inevitable that another Tunguska-type event will occur this century but I sincerely hope this isn't the one. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 85758
4/26/2006 9:44 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Why are they only tracking pieces bigger then 500 ft. Can they not see anything smaller then that.? |
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Karl Hungus
User ID: 85517
4/26/2006 9:47 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Ah, Tunguska U. my alma mata. What was that fight song,
Knock'em down
Knock'em down
Knock'em ALL Down! |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75343
4/26/2006 9:52 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
List of Components
73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann 3
and date of Discovery
[link to cometography.com]
The next predicted perihelion date is 2006 June 7 and the comet will pass 0.0735 AU from Earth on May 13, being only slightly farther away than during the original discovery apparition of 1930. C. W. Hergenrother (Lunar and Planetary Laboratory) recovered the brightest component, referred to as "C", while using the 1.2-m reflector at Mount Hopkins on 2005 October 22. He gave the magnitude as 19.3 and said the strongly condensed coma was 6 arcsec across. There was also a fan-shaped tail extending 8 arcsec in PA 300°. Component "B" was found at by J. A. Farrell (Jemez Springs, New Mexico, USA) on 2006 January 6, while using a 41-cm reflector. He gave the magnitude as 18.8-19.0, which was then just over three magnitudes fainter than component "C".
The next component found did not match the prediction for any previously observed component and set the stage for many new discoveries as the comet approached perihelion. This new component was labelled "G". It was independently found by R. A. Tucker (Tucson, Arizona, USA) on February 20 and 22, and E. J. Christensen on Mt. Lemmon Survey images obtained on February 24. The magnitude was given as 17.2. Numerous other components have been found in the weeks that followed and more are expected to be found as the comet nears its closest approach to Earth
[link to cometography.com]
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User ID: 58646
4/26/2006 9:56 AM | |
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75343
4/26/2006 9:57 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Orbital Elements, Finding Charts, Magnitudes Graphs...
[link to www.aerith.net]
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75343
4/26/2006 10:02 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
"Carte détaillée de la trajectoire à télécharger et à imprimer"
[link to www2.globetrotter.net]
73P Schwassmann-Wachmann : fichier PDF de 533 ko, 4 pages
Cliquez ici
[link to www2.globetrotter.net]
pour voir une animation (1 Mo) montrant le déplacement des fragments C, B et G entre le 1er avril et le 25 mai.
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Watchman
User ID: 85919
4/26/2006 10:21 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Pay close attention to this particular comet. Do not ignore it.
I have been warning people who listen to my radio program that a great fireball will strike the USA.
Many people have been receiving dreams and visions about a fireball blasting through the sky above America and striking the nation.
On Monday, April 25, I started a series on my radio program entitled "The Fireball is Coming." I do not know if Schwassmann -Wachmann 73P is that fireball, but I've frequently been telling people since November 2005 that the fireball is imminent. I did not know about 73P until several weeks ago.
Do you know about the two huge chunks of ice that fell in California recently? Warning signs?
Almighty God, the creator of Heaven and Earth, is crying out to mankind to repent of transgressions of His commandments. In mercy, He is crying out to men and women to run to the Cross where they will find mercy, salvation, and protection.
Jesus said there will be great signs in the heavens before His return.
The fireball is coming!
You can listen to the programs and read about the ice chunks at my website:
www.Trunews.com
Rick |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 85758
4/26/2006 10:25 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Watchman go spam your site some place else.. I don't believe for a second that god is up there prepairing to throw snowballs at us.
You bible thumpers are worse then used car salesmen.. |
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dr wankenstein
User ID: 13730
4/26/2006 10:27 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
The Point here is that there have been five extended epochs since the Renaissance when the earth apparently encountered the fragmentation debris of previously unsighted comets. During theses epochs, broadly coinciding with the Hundred Years War, the Reformation, the Thirty Years War (including the English Civil War), the French Revolutionary Period (including the American War of Independence) and the mid-nineteenth century revolutionary Crisis in Europe, the various national authorities could do very little to restrain public anxiety in the face of the perceived danger. The fact of a perceived danger at these epochs, signified historically by a global rise in eschatological concern, is now understood in various academic quarters as marking some kind of physical dislocation (climate, disease?) which causes economic and social activity to be widely deranged, even to the point of collapse of civilized society, leading them to revolution, mass migration and war, amplified on a global scale.
text from "Narrative Report in the Hazard to Civilization due to Fireballs and Comets" which can be downloaded here.
www.blackvault.com/documents/ADA359880.pdf |
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Dee
User ID: 536
4/26/2006 10:35 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
85758
>>>Watchman go spam your site some place else.. I don't believe for a second that god is up there prepairing to throw snowballs at us.
You bible thumpers are worse then used car salesmen..<<<
Schwassmann-Waschman 73P is not a snowball.. Your first mistake..
Want to know what your second mistake is? |
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User ID: 9220
4/26/2006 10:44 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
"The fact of a perceived danger at these epochs, signified historically by a global rise in eschatological concern, is now understood in various academic quarters as marking some kind of physical dislocation (climate, disease?) which causes economic and social activity to be widely deranged, even to the point of collapse of civilized society, leading them to revolution, mass migration and war, amplified on a global scale."
Change IS the universal constant and what TPTB fear and have been planning on the most the last few years. The bottom line is economic and social revolution/evolution is imminent due to several historicly reoccuring scenarios (dwindling resorces, war, overpopulation, famine, disease, etc..) and this one qualifies at the top of the list so be prepaired as best you can.
Peace
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 82844
4/26/2006 10:45 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
ok..some of you are living yesterday. Now to the point.
S-W73P was discovered 1930. ok
It was missing next 50years, they had info about when to look and where but this bugger is very very dim.
At 1979 it was found again by J. Johnston and M. Buhagiar (Perth Observatory, Australia)
85-86 it was missed again.
90 On April 17, the comet passed 0.3661 AU
from eart. Best pictures after 1930.
1995 It was seen further away and people excepted to get bad pictures. It turned out to be very bright for couple of months, even after it was too far away to suns light have an effect.
2001 same thing as above, again too bright.
Now the next predicted perihelion date is 2006 June 7 and the comet will pass 0.0735 AU from Earth on May 13, being only slightly farther away than during the original discovery apparition of 1930. C. W. Hergenrother (Lunar and Planetary Laboratory)
Now you have your facts straight :D.
Rest you can read from this post and i´m pretty sure coming two weeks will have more media attention.
My opinion is that no one can calculate something that can´t be seen. And everyday they found a new piece, they are just hidden inside all the debris.
If every piece misses we still have nice light show to watch :D..meteorites are sure to come.
-jf |
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Watchman
User ID: 85919
4/26/2006 10:55 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Dee:
A comet is composed of ice and rock. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 75343
4/26/2006 11:14 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Legal Issues in Defending Against Asteroids...
[link to members.tripod.com]
This column begins by outlining the nature of the threat and the proposals to defend against it. It then compares the risk of a comet or asteroid impact to other risks with which society concerns itself. It will then turn to how domestic law, especially the National Environmental Policy Act, affects a system to defend against this threat and, then, how defensive measures are affected by international law, especially the Outer Space Treaty and the nuclear non-proliferation agreements.
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Snake-eyes
User ID: 81387
4/26/2006 11:15 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
There are as many theories as there are conspiracies. Every "googler" out there can find something to support any argument 50 ways to Sunday. So let's think for a moment, there has been a lot of hype over the past few years of a disaster of some type, asteroid meteor hitting earth, who benefits from this? Well, if I wanted to de-sensitize an audience I would cry wolf many times over so that when I wanted to really let the dogs of war loose no one would really bother to listen.
Suppose, just suppose something is really going on, we know that if real news of a pending disaster got out people would go nuts lookingh out for themselves. Stores would be overrun, banks would be overrun, everything would disappear ind then would start the fighting and panic by those who felt they didn't or couldn't get theirs.This is human nature as studied in just about every long range event such as a hurricane.
So there is premise for an administration or government to not allow info to get out otherwise things would get out of hand very quickly. Everbody would turn into survivalists, chaos would ensue. There is a lot to be said for the pre-planning that is going on behind the scenes to anticipate just this happening - detention centers, draconian legislation to restrict travel and anti-hoarding laws. Banks must notify the feds over large withdrawals, or paying off of credit cards, or running up large debdt at Sam's clubs. They are monitoring things.
Then you need to start a campaign of smearing the chicken little's who go around screaming the sky is falling, and also you need a good dis-info campaign to cause enough confusion that keeps even the best of skeptics just not really sure.
So perhaps the S-W comet is only a diversion, so hyped up that it becomes another red herring to further de-sensitize us from the real danger lurking out there
[ [link to yowusa.com]
Timing is the thing and preparation for just about anything is the other. I say question everything, it isn't really true unless you see and know it, even then you need to question that because it could be a diversion.
Trust in your higher intuition, your spiritual conscience if you will. Let it be your guide, and do not fear. Trust no one who says they are from the government.
SE
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 74398
4/26/2006 11:26 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
i just read through the entire thread
my 2 cents
nothing will happen unless there is outside intervention, ET or divine
as the comet comes closer, if the chances increase of some type of impact, you should stop thinking about IF the comet will hit, but WHY. |
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zazzman
User ID: 71262
4/26/2006 11:34 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Either way it sounds like one hell of a show - I see myself spending some evenings (if clear out) gazing, in the coming weeks, at the heavens in both awe and respect.
You can bet that I will be sitting out in my hottub on clear nights, drinking a bud light and hoping for a great show.
As for being prepared, after Isabel...i live in Chesapeake Virginia and that hurricane was just a cat. 1 and it tore the heck out of the area, and the past 2 years down south...I added to my supply of emergency stuff. I now have a Berkley water purifer, 2 generators, indoor propane heater...2 types, sleeping bags, 2 coleman stoves, hand crank flashlights (4) handcrank/solar radios (2) enough food for 4 people for 4 months not including the pantry and freezer. Quite a few guns with enough ammo to make thugs think twice about taking whats mine, they might take it but I figure I will send quite a few to hell,,,before they get me and my family/friends. Everyone needs to be prepared,,,at least have 3 or 4 weeks of food/water on hand...
JUST IN CASE!!! |
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Dee
User ID: 536
4/26/2006 11:40 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Trust in your higher intuition, your spiritual conscience if you will. Let it be your guide, and do not fear. Trust no one who says they are from the government.
82844 I agree never a better time to get in touch with what is true, (God)
It's time to realize that truth is not forth coming from our government or is it coming from too many of our churches either unfortunately.
Our spiritual guide is still available to all who ask.. regardless of the corruption in both institutions.
Watchman
According to the work of Physicist, Professor James McCanney, comets are also electro-dynamic in nature.
Ofcourse he was black balled from publishing his findings, and lost his teaching position at Cornell Univerisity because of his beliefs..
But that too is another story. |
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The realist
User ID: 73790
4/26/2006 11:41 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
So a fireball is going to streak across..... America?
In your radio show it says across the nation.
Damn typical eh, we people from other parts of the world always miss out eh?
Look when all you people are quoting GOD and visions, get a fucking grip will you.
Imagine dying and realising that there isnt such a thing as GOD or not in the construct that you think.
This isnt Sunday school anymore guys, you left school and have entered the real world.
If you think about something long enough, in the end you'll begin to dream about it and eventually you'll convince yourself.
It happens. Look at stalkers who convince themselves that much that the person they're are stalking actually loves them.
Where did they get the delusion from? There own minds.
They managed to manipulate their own minds and convince themselves that it was "gospel truth".
Oh and remember the book called the bible wasnt written by Jesus.
Imagine in a thousand years our civilization has gone. Some new type human finds a script for the Matrix and reads it. "wow I've found the truth" Get it? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 536
4/26/2006 11:53 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Where did they get the delusion from? There own minds.
I don't agree..
There is an author of truth...
as there is an author of deception...
Seems some suscript to the former others to the latter. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 84505
4/26/2006 11:58 AM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
originally, the date of closest approach to the sun was given as June6, now they say June7
how does this affect the orbit simulator positions?
SO? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 84505
4/26/2006 12:08 PM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Date of Perhilion (closest approach to the sun) previously being reported on many sites, 1 example here:
[link to www.aerith.net]
Perhilion
2006 June 6 73P
But, since fragment B broke up, they are saying June 7 is the day of perhilion
how could this breakup slow the comet by one day?
anyone know? |
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ScienceOnly
User ID: 85956
4/26/2006 12:08 PM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Watchman,
I am glad to see you visiting this forum. I had not made the connection until now. I mailed you a letter a week or so ago. I live in Charlottesville, VA. I'd like to meet you sometime. Every once-in-a-while I drive down to Dallas to visit my family and I find muself trecking across TN on I-40. If you send me contact info, I could give you a call the next time I pass through. As it stands now, I expect to be making the "Run" at the end of October. If you e-mail me, use my personal address which is unknown to this forum.
To everyone,
Rick Wiles (Watchman) puts out good information every evening on his 30 minute webcast. God has called many of his servants to do many seemingly-obscure things. Giving a radio/Internet daily message falls into this category, when compared to all the things one can be called to do.
If the Holy Spirit leads you, tune in. The Holy Spirit has not chosen to communicate with me in the manner in which he is communicating with Rick. To some, this would be evidence that it is not the Holy Spirit at all, but some type of E.T. power of suggestion. Perhaps...perhaps not.
We all must follow our heart on this great journey called life. One thing is for certian, if we don't listen to anything we can never discern anything. |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 84505
4/26/2006 12:09 PM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
Science Only, what do you make of the change of perhilion from June 6 to June 7? |
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Anonymous Coward
User ID: 84505
4/26/2006 12:11 PM | | Re: Schwassmann-Wachmann 73P; Here's what I learned about its trajectory | Quote |
the last week, as I was reading about 73p on MANY sites, perhilion was ALWAYS listed as June 6, 2006
Now, as of yesterday, they have changed the perhilion date to June 7
this seems to be quite a change in timing |
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