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Shortage Of Workers In All Skilled Trade Positions In The US... Any Fresh Ideas On Finding Candidates???

 
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

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There are 2.6 million people out of work here in the UK..

Can you get any green cards??

I'll come work for you buddy.
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Get on a plane to Ft Lauderdale or LA, Just stay,get a job,Your new name is Jose Sanchez, your in!
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
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Senor

I weeell workz for you.Send plenty moneeeeey to:


Jose Jose Jnr.
Donkey Shagging street
Some shit town
Mexico



When I gets you money,I weeeell sneek into Merica and works for you,yes? I also cut lawns.

PS.You have also job for my seeeester Manuela,she good house-keeper!




confident
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
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My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
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"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632544


My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
 Quoting: + DL +


"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


I have working knowledge of almost every construction trade, I was a journeyman licensed electrician. I was a GC for a number of years. I have my OSHA 300. Who the hell are you?
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
 Quoting: + DL +



Senor

I weeell workz for you.Send plenty moneeeeey to:


Jose Jose Jnr.
Donkey Shagging street
Some shit town
Mexico



When I gets you money,I weeeell sneek into Merica and works for you,yes? I also cut lawns.

PS.You have also job for my seeeester Manuela,she good house-keeper!




confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Because of your retarded statement, I have decided to Psychically locate you, please tell me if I'm close.
You are within 100 miles of Bradford, to the West and South most likely, Manchester,Preston,Liverpool triangle ?
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632544


My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
 Quoting: + DL +


"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


I have working knowledge of almost every construction trade, I was a journeyman licensed electrician. I was a GC for a number of years. I have my OSHA 300. Who the hell are you?
 Quoting: + DL +


I'll tell you who i'm not.
I'm not a social parasite that sits behind a desk hiring out other peoples labor for a way to fat cut off the action.
And you only came to confirm my belief that most electricians are a-Holes?
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My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
 Quoting: + DL +


"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


I have working knowledge of almost every construction trade, I was a journeyman licensed electrician. I was a GC for a number of years. I have my OSHA 300. Who the hell are you?
 Quoting: + DL +


I'll tell you who i'm not.
I'm not a social parasite that sits behind a desk hiring out other peoples labor for a way to fat cut off the action.
And you only came to confirm my belief that most electricians are a-Holes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


Somebody else climbs the tower, you get a check in the mail?
Genius ! How clever you are at selling other peoples skill and effort.
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Go to your local tech school around graduation time and the school will probably be happy to allow u to interview. Been in the electrical trade 10 years and it sure is nice being in demand again.
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That is a good idea, but that is more of a long-term idea. A green candidate is unfortunately nothing to me because I need someone with experience. I'd pretty much be interviewing them to see if they have a good personality and look presentable and then keep them in mind one year down the road in case they gained experience. Thanks though, not bad thinking.

Anything else?
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Why don't you get off your high horse and commit to training the green candidates if they are willing work for less, say $16-$18/hr for the first year. Apprenticeship programs. That way you will a) provide much needed and still better than av paying jobs to Americans, and b) you get to train them the way you want them to be trained.
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
 Quoting: + DL +



Senor

I weeell workz for you.Send plenty moneeeeey to:


Jose Jose Jnr.
Donkey Shagging street
Some shit town
Mexico



When I gets you money,I weeeell sneek into Merica and works for you,yes? I also cut lawns.

PS.You have also job for my seeeester Manuela,she good house-keeper!




confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Because of your retarded statement, I have decided to Psychically locate you, please tell me if I'm close.
You are within 100 miles of Bradford, to the West and South most likely, Manchester,Preston,Liverpool triangle ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762




Ha! Ha!


Meester, me use proxy, me mucho clever!

Me mucho clever than you, you spell 'Psychically' wrong!

You no good boss,me more clevero than boss-man.

I dance round my sombrero at you!


confident
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
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Senor

I weeell workz for you.Send plenty moneeeeey to:


Jose Jose Jnr.
Donkey Shagging street
Some shit town
Mexico



When I gets you money,I weeeell sneek into Merica and works for you,yes? I also cut lawns.

PS.You have also job for my seeeester Manuela,she good house-keeper!




confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Because of your retarded statement, I have decided to Psychically locate you, please tell me if I'm close.
You are within 100 miles of Bradford, to the West and South most likely, Manchester,Preston,Liverpool triangle ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762




Ha! Ha!


Meester, me use proxy, me mucho clever!

Me mucho clever than you, you spell 'Psychically' wrong!

You no good boss,me more clevero than boss-man.

I dance round my sombrero at you!


confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Thats cool! check out one of our more recent visitors from Mexico, he looks just like your smiley avitar, we get all kinds around here, you know.

[link to www.cfnews13.com]
I could use a proxy too but I just don't G.A.F. anymore.
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Senor

I weeell workz for you.Send plenty moneeeeey to:


Jose Jose Jnr.
Donkey Shagging street
Some shit town
Mexico



When I gets you money,I weeeell sneek into Merica and works for you,yes? I also cut lawns.

PS.You have also job for my seeeester Manuela,she good house-keeper!




confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Because of your retarded statement, I have decided to Psychically locate you, please tell me if I'm close.
You are within 100 miles of Bradford, to the West and South most likely, Manchester,Preston,Liverpool triangle ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762




Ha! Ha!


Meester, me use proxy, me mucho clever!

Me mucho clever than you, you spell 'Psychically' wrong!

You no good boss,me more clevero than boss-man.

I dance round my sombrero at you!


confident
 Quoting: ALBION 41641017

Thats cool! check out one of our more recent visitors from Mexico, he looks just like your smiley avitar, we get all kinds around here, you know.

[link to www.cfnews13.com]
I could use a proxy too but I just don't G.A.F. anymore.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762





Sheeet


He my papa!


Papa come home.Momma's donkey show,it not make many greenbacks,papa!



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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates.

So you find people for others. Your a slave merchant.

I cry for you. I dont know, where are your slaves.

Good luck. Hey I got idea. Why dont you go do the work. Sure you be employed without decent benefits and get laid off when said company finishs state contract.

Scum, whine, cry, whine. Serve me. You know where they are dip, working part time as a taxi driver and hell no they ant going back and 18-24 yr olds are to busy getting in debt at school, the rest stop working slave merchant.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41621913


I find them for direct hire fees, no temp work so fuck off! I've been in the trades as well so don't talk to me like I'm some desk jockey because I've put in my time. Started as a scrub and ended up running my own company for 7 years.
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I admire you for what you do and am glad that headhunter work is available for you again, as it is the sign of a recovering job market. I always get my best gigs through agencies... You will find your people! Dont give up!
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Put an ad in the SouthEastern Wisconsin newspapers. These cities would be Milwaukee, Racine, and Kenosha. Also in the Fox Valley area like Oshkosh, Appleton, and Fond u Lac. There are some layoffs going on and lots of skilled tradesmen available to work. You may even be able to take on a few people wanting to transfer to a new skill.
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I work with an ad agency that runs ads in 180 newspapers across Wisconsin M-F. I dropped $1200 to do this for 5 straight weeks and I received one call. I feel like newspaper ads are no longer effective. I dropped $400 on an ad for plumbers in Alabama and I had one call and the guy was fucking hookers in my hotel room and shitting all over the place and did terrible work! No good experiences with this...
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This is one of the problems! My friend owns a Resort and employs 9 skilled maintenance workers and they ALL periodically end up in jail for drugs, alcohol or domestic violence charges. It's a joke man.
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
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I was in construction for 30 + years, I know lots of guys that have their knees,hips,backs FUBAR !
I have never had Medical or Dental coverage.
I have busted my ass for decades,just to pay the bills.
I was offered a job in Vegas running a crew, if I could speak Spanish, Mi no hable mucho Espaniol.
Immigrants were trucked in and We American guys were replaced by guys from Mexico who would do the job for half the price.
I have got no problem with the Mexican guy's, many of them do fine work and they bust their asses.
They do very good sheetrock and plastering,in particular.
They save their money and sleep 5 or 10 to an apartment in a hood where nobody asks too many questions.
This is not a line of B.S. I'm intimately familiar with the construction biz and it's realities.
They save their money and go back to Mexico and buy a little Ranchero and live the good life.
In the USA, the Mexicans also run Dope (Pot,Meth,Heroin.) and use Mexican restaurants to Launder the $$$ and make more $$$. They are smart,in a crazy kind of way, smart like a fox.
It is no big secret.
If I was a guy in Mexico, I would move to El Norte and start working, save up my cash and go home and buy a ranch.
Good luck to them,to be honest.
But that leaves your average Black or White American in a FUBAR scene.
My point is, Skilled guys could once make a living by learning and maintaining their skills,They could support a family and buy a house. Not any more.
If you can get in a Nepotistic union and live of the Federal teet,you can make some bank, but you are basically 'robbing your neighbors,via taxation for Prevailing no-where but the government wages.
So your paycheck is welfare,not free market.
Skilled workers are Tax Targets.The game is rigged against them now, that is why you can not find them, they are done,finished,finito.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


^^^^^It's almost like I wrote that myself.^^^^^
38 years in commercial/ residential, ended as company/ site super. Lots of travelling. Company started taking one benny after another from everyone, when they took bonuses and the vehicle and gas card, that clinched it for me. That was $800-$1000 out of my pocket per month. Fuck them....they can keep their clown cars full of Mexicans, you get what you pay for. They were quick but I always had to send a punch list crew of "normal" guys to make things right. Nevermind putting up with the bitching from the GCs. If I stayed with them it would have been a loss of around $15,000 per year minimum.
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I'm at a loss on finding skilled construction or manufacturing candidates. Everyone is going to college and there are no workers doing the "dirty jobs."

Other than Craigslist, Careerbuilder, Monster, LinkedIN and Facebook, I have no new ideas on finding people. Throwing this at GLP hoping some crazy fucker or meth head has some brilliant idea that the average sheeple cannot think of!

tantrum
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I was in construction for 30 + years, I know lots of guys that have their knees,hips,backs FUBAR !
I have never had Medical or Dental coverage.
I have busted my ass for decades,just to pay the bills.
I was offered a job in Vegas running a crew, if I could speak Spanish, Mi no hable mucho Espaniol.
Immigrants were trucked in and We American guys were replaced by guys from Mexico who would do the job for half the price.
I have got no problem with the Mexican guy's, many of them do fine work and they bust their asses.
They do very good sheetrock and plastering,in particular.
They save their money and sleep 5 or 10 to an apartment in a hood where nobody asks too many questions.
This is not a line of B.S. I'm intimately familiar with the construction biz and it's realities.
They save their money and go back to Mexico and buy a little Ranchero and live the good life.
In the USA, the Mexicans also run Dope (Pot,Meth,Heroin.) and use Mexican restaurants to Launder the $$$ and make more $$$. They are smart,in a crazy kind of way, smart like a fox.
It is no big secret.
If I was a guy in Mexico, I would move to El Norte and start working, save up my cash and go home and buy a ranch.
Good luck to them,to be honest.
But that leaves your average Black or White American in a FUBAR scene.
My point is, Skilled guys could once make a living by learning and maintaining their skills,They could support a family and buy a house. Not any more.
If you can get in a Nepotistic union and live of the Federal teet,you can make some bank, but you are basically 'robbing your neighbors,via taxation for Prevailing no-where but the government wages.
So your paycheck is welfare,not free market.
Skilled workers are Tax Targets.The game is rigged against them now, that is why you can not find them, they are done,finished,finito.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762




Nice job! Old Vegas construction worker here. I saw the invasion destroy the trades first hand. I hung in till 04 and escaped the hellhole.

My tude now is sit back and watch it crash. Wages have shrunk back to 1975 for the most part.

All going to plan like the D of C wants. Destroy the middle class.
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My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
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"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


I have working knowledge of almost every construction trade, I was a journeyman licensed electrician. I was a GC for a number of years. I have my OSHA 300. Who the hell are you?
 Quoting: + DL +


I'll tell you who i'm not.
I'm not a social parasite that sits behind a desk hiring out other peoples labor for a way to fat cut off the action.
And you only came to confirm my belief that most electricians are a-Holes?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41639762


Lol... Hey buddy, we don't do temp work only direct hire fees. You must be a life-long temper so you have no clue what a direct hire opportunity is. We get paid to network and find these hard to find candidates. For your average direct hire you can call up to 300 candidates just to find one person... You really think 1 or 2 HR people can handle that type of load when they need 5-10 permanent people?

You have no idea what I do so....

stfu
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632544


My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
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$30-$40/hr without bennies is jack shit.
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Nephew started the foaming business from nothing, makes an easy $1,000 day when their's work. Went through the crash of 08, say's a knows many contractors who used to pull in $40,000 a Month, now living in a travel trailer and are FLAT BROKE.
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632544


My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
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$30-$40/hr without bennies is jack shit.
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That's right.... $62,400-$83,200 based off a 40 hour work week is jack shit? You work OT like almost everyone in construction does and you'd be at six figures... Or does the union not pay OT? I'm sure all the people making 30-40k who have college degrees would like to choke you out for such an absurd comment!
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Put an ad in the SouthEastern Wisconsin newspapers. These cities would be Milwaukee, Racine, and Kenosha. Also in the Fox Valley area like Oshkosh, Appleton, and Fond u Lac. There are some layoffs going on and lots of skilled tradesmen available to work. You may even be able to take on a few people wanting to transfer to a new skill.
 Quoting: asymetriclogic


I work with an ad agency that runs ads in 180 newspapers across Wisconsin M-F. I dropped $1200 to do this for 5 straight weeks and I received one call. I feel like newspaper ads are no longer effective. I dropped $400 on an ad for plumbers in Alabama and I had one call and the guy was fucking hookers in my hotel room and shitting all over the place and did terrible work! No good experiences with this...
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Can you tell me more about the plumbing jobs? My husband is a journeyman plumber...new construction..industrial..commercial..also does refrigeration work...
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Are you in Alabama?
 Quoting: + DL +


No. Just curious what you had to offer. Would be willing to relocate for a good deal. My husband is employed and makes a decent wage, but not what he was making before getting laid off in Nov 2009.
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No one wants to work for the union anymore.
TX mother f**ker that's where I stay!
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My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman.
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Maybe they should train people.
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There is shortage in good pay for skilled work...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41632544


My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman. The companies who aren't paying now-a-day will never get good workers.
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$30-$40/hr without bennies is jack shit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41646296


That's right.... $62,400-$83,200 based off a 40 hour work week is jack shit? You work OT like almost everyone in construction does and you'd be at six figures... Or does the union not pay OT? I'm sure all the people making 30-40k who have college degrees would like to choke you out for such an absurd comment!
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The union doesn't pay anything, the benefit package is paid by the employer.
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No one wants to work for the union anymore.
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No? Is that why my best friend retired from road construction at the age of 57? Working non-union, you end up with ZERO.
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No one wants to work for the union anymore.
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No? Is that why my best friend retired from road construction at the age of 57? Working non-union, you end up with ZERO.
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Another friend (passed away) was pulling in $4,000 Month union pension, what will you be pulling in? ZERO......
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My clients will pay anything. They are willing to pay union prices $30-$40/hr just for journeyman.
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Maybe they should train people.
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When a govt project demands only JM tradesmen work the job, how are you going to turn a green candidate or apprentice into a JM overnight? It's easy to say "well why don't you just train people."
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govt project requires paying union scale (benefit package costs included)!
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The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Employment Standards Administration's Wage and Hour Division (WHD) administers laws and regulations requiring minimum wages and fringe benefits to be paid to workers performing construction work on federally-funded contracts or providing services to the federal government.

Federal construction contractors are required to pay their workers no less than the locally prevailing wages and fringe benefits. WHD issues wage determinations that set forth the required wages and fringe benefits to be paid by occupation and locality.

Contractors performing services for the federal government are required to pay service employees in various classes no less than the wage rates and fringe benefits found prevailing in the locality, or the rates (including prospective increases) contained in a predecessor contractor's collective bargaining agreement.


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"Just for Journeymen" ? You clearly have no clue what a trade Journeyman is and what a long hard road it is to honestly call yourself that.
Just a Journeyman ! That is classic and very sad at the same time.
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I have working knowledge of almost every construction trade, I was a journeyman licensed electrician. I was a GC for a number of years. I have my OSHA 300. Who the hell are you?
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I'll tell you who i'm not.
I'm not a social parasite that sits behind a desk hiring out other peoples labor for a way to fat cut off the action.
And you only came to confirm my belief that most electricians are a-Holes?
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Lol... Hey buddy, we don't do temp work only direct hire fees. You must be a life-long temper so you have no clue what a direct hire opportunity is. We get paid to network and find these hard to find candidates. For your average direct hire you can call up to 300 candidates just to find one person... You really think 1 or 2 HR people can handle that type of load when they need 5-10 permanent people?

You have no idea what I do so....

stfu
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Once upon a time, if you wanted a job, you walked up to a Construction site and talked to the Top Dog.
Now you have to talk to the fat,know nothing loser at the agency or Office.
The hardest part of getting a job is pissing in a cup and getting 20 years of personal history, but first you have to get past the Fat Lady in the office who has never run a hammer or wrench or 10 wheel dump truck in her life, it is a complete mystery to her, but she has a diploma from fat lady college and knows a shitload about dog psychology and "Human Resources", Whatever they are, she can not look a dude in the eye and say "Yep,This dude can put a roof on or put a swing stage up a high rise".
She has no way of knowing,discerning,taking the measure of a man.
She should be washing her poodle but she is deciding the flow of the national economy instead,
Her x 1000,000.
I can charm the tits off the Office lady's to get to the Man who runs stuff,but it is a chore.
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The U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) Employment Standards Administration's Wage and Hour Division (WHD) administers laws and regulations requiring minimum wages and fringe benefits to be paid to workers performing construction work on federally-funded contracts or providing services to the federal government.

Federal construction contractors are required to pay their workers no less than the locally prevailing wages and fringe benefits. WHD issues wage determinations that set forth the required wages and fringe benefits to be paid by occupation and locality.

Contractors performing services for the federal government are required to pay service employees in various classes no less than the wage rates and fringe benefits found prevailing in the locality, or the rates (including prospective increases) contained in a predecessor contractor's collective bargaining agreement.


[link to www.dol.gov]
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Are you trying to prove some point? You think I don't know about the pay and fringe on govt projects? Yea when a non union company does a whitesheet project they are assigned certain wages which they obide by. I worked with one company out of hundreds who tried fucking people over without us knowing but it didn't last long and I got my workers thousands of $'s back in pay...

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