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Consumer Alert: Secret Trade Agreements Threaten Food Safety, Subvert Democracy

 
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Consumer Alert: Secret Trade Agreements Threaten Food Safety, Subvert Democracy
If you think the U.S. government is doing a sub-par job of keeping your food safe, brace yourself. You could soon be eating imported seafood, beef or chicken products that don’t meet even basic U.S. food safety standards. Under two new trade agreements, currently in negotiation, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) could be powerless to shut down imports of unsafe food or food ingredients. And if it tries, multinational corporations will be able to sue the U.S. government for the loss of anticipated future profits.

More frightening? Negotiations for both agreements are taking place behind closed doors, with input allowed almost exclusively from the corporations and industry trade groups that stand to benefit the most. And the Obama Administration intends to push the agreements through Congress without so much as giving lawmakers access to draft texts, much less the opportunity for debate.

Designed to grease the wheels of world commerce, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) would force the U.S. and other participating countries to “harmonize” food safety standards. That means all countries that sign on to the agreement would be required to abide by the lowest common denominator standards of all participating governments. So for instance, say Vietnam allows higher residues of veterinary antibiotics in seafood than the U.S. allows, and Vietnam and the U.S. both sign on to the TPP. As a trade partner, the U.S. could be forced to lower its standards to allow for imports of seafood from Vietnam – or face a lawsuit by the seafood exporter for depriving the company of future sales of its products in the U.S.

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From the link:

European consumers will also suffer. Europe has long used the precautionary principle to ban ractopamine in meat, chlorine rinses of poultry and the use of rBGH growth hormone in milk production. Under the TTIP, Europe could be forced to allow all three in order to meet the lowest common denominator rule. The precautionary principle removes the burden of proof from policymakers, allowing them to make discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm, given the lack of scientific proof to the contrary. But that principle flies out the window under TTIP rules.

Thanks OP, this is infuriating.

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YUM from Fukushima!
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From the link:

European consumers will also suffer. Europe has long used the precautionary principle to ban ractopamine in meat, chlorine rinses of poultry and the use of rBGH growth hormone in milk production. Under the TTIP, Europe could be forced to allow all three in order to meet the lowest common denominator rule. The precautionary principle removes the burden of proof from policymakers, allowing them to make discretionary decisions in situations where there is the possibility of harm, given the lack of scientific proof to the contrary. But that principle flies out the window under TTIP rules.

Thanks OP, this is infuriating.

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I didn't know they used chlorine for meats hmmm strange too as I was looking at the studies on it just last night where they was saying that it is mutagenic and genotoxic in water.
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Our government is actively allowing us to be poisoned. EPA and BP with Corexit, radioactive home furnishings, fraking, irradiating food, pharmaceutical corps not accountable for the damage they do.

The corporations are allowed to hide their poison behind "trade secrets' and the government hides behind "classified and national security".

It is only through perseverance and luck that we ever find out the harm that is visited on the ordinary person.
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The easiest way to send a message and rebel wouldn't even require bloodshed in this instance.If you really care:

Go vegan, deny them their profits.

That is all.
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If you think the U.S. government is doing a sub-par job of keeping your food safe, brace yourself. You could soon be eating imported seafood, beef or chicken products that don’t meet even basic U.S. food safety standards. Under two new trade agreements, currently in negotiation, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) could be powerless to shut down imports of unsafe food or food ingredients. And if it tries, multinational corporations will be able to sue the U.S. government for the loss of anticipated future profits.

More frightening? Negotiations for both agreements are taking place behind closed doors, with input allowed almost exclusively from the corporations and industry trade groups that stand to benefit the most. And the Obama Administration intends to push the agreements through Congress without so much as giving lawmakers access to draft texts, much less the opportunity for debate.

Designed to grease the wheels of world commerce, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) would force the U.S. and other participating countries to “harmonize” food safety standards. That means all countries that sign on to the agreement would be required to abide by the lowest common denominator standards of all participating governments. So for instance, say Vietnam allows higher residues of veterinary antibiotics in seafood than the U.S. allows, and Vietnam and the U.S. both sign on to the TPP. As a trade partner, the U.S. could be forced to lower its standards to allow for imports of seafood from Vietnam – or face a lawsuit by the seafood exporter for depriving the company of future sales of its products in the U.S.

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]
 Quoting: Fhirinne

"global embezzlement of public funds"

why don't "dope" dealers sue the gov too
for the loss of anticipated future profits
when busted for supplying a demand
not being met by anyone else.

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Fukushima Beef... yum
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Its already going on, Costco sells seafood from vietnam already! This obama asshole, needs a knot jerked in his tail before something bad happens. This is insanely illegal behavior by our government. Signing treaties behind closed doors with other nations for profit and power!
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It's all round a Bad News Day today.

We are being attacked from all angles.redface
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Fukushima Beef... yum
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RIght!!!? It reminds me of the video i watched. When all the manta rays washed ashore along the shore and beached themselves. All the guys with their little carts and machetes were chopping up big slabs of them and hauling their catch to market....fucking disgusting!!

But this is what happens when you wanna trade with immoral and heathenistic belief systems and ways of life.

Its worse than tryin to swim in a shark tank filled with sharks who havent eaten anything in a month.
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The easiest way to send a message and rebel wouldn't even require bloodshed in this instance.If you really care:

Go vegan, deny them their profits.

That is all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41180851


SOunds good on paper. But with our leadership, letting fully automatic weapons go down south. Harboring terrorist on the federal witness protection plan. Arresting the wrong people for risen. Telling us fuckashima isnt a problem neither is the gulf oil spill, neither is the spraying of our oceans with corexit. Flouride and chlorine for us to drink and bathe in. Spraying our skys for weather modification, with nano particles of aluminum and barium for us to breath. Going Vegan isnt the solution or the escape.

They want your rain water too or you go to jail. And they want you to buy their seeds.

I dont want shit from my government other than to go away and leave me the fuck alone! And we all know that isnt gonna happen with the latest scandals over our right to privacy! ANd now we need to be careful what we say or face prosecution.

Obama Holder, Napalitano all look great in gray with german insignia.

You have to realize they are laughing in your face, and actually hate your guts and despise, even your opinion, and im sure at this point even the sound of your voice.
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I like that whole chicken you can get in a can.
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The easiest way to send a message and rebel wouldn't even require bloodshed in this instance.If you really care:

Go vegan, deny them their profits.

That is all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41180851


How does one who comes from a meat-eating people become vegan without suffering protein deficiency?
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I am a sort-of vegetarian, usually organic. Now I'm a sworn vegetarian. That meat stuff above makes me feel nauseated. Bleh.

I was in the health food store strolling around and shopping and had this thought: what if these products in here are not REALLY organic and otherwise healthy?

Gawd. I come here too much. Heh.

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The easiest way to send a message and rebel wouldn't even require bloodshed in this instance.If you really care:

Go vegan, deny them their profits.

That is all.
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How does one who comes from a meat-eating people become vegan without suffering protein deficiency?
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Lots of stuff contains protein: legumes, beans, cheese, etc. You can look it up. I'm not a pro. but I do the best that I can.
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Subverting law...not democracy. Fuck democracy!
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Thread: MORINGA- THE MIRACLE PLANT!!! THIS IS A SURVIVAL PLANT AND WILL BE VITAL IN NEAR FUTURE!!!
Thread: Pigeon Peas-a prolific and versatile food crop!! and like Moringa, will be vital in the near future!

Another reason for Moringa and Pigeon Peas.
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This is like in Idiocracy where the Brawndo corporation actually bought the FDA so it “do, say and sell anything they wanted”

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This is like in Idiocracy where the Brawndo corporation actually bought the FDA so it “do, say and sell anything they wanted”


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yup, correct

"The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved rBGH in 1993, despite criticism that the effects of rBGH were never properly assessed. The FDA’s approval was based solely on one study administered by Monsanto in which rBGH was tested for 90 days on 30 rats. Although the FDA stated that the results showed no significant problems, the study was never actually published."
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Thread: Monsanto! FDA worse than IRS! WTF rBGH BBQ!!!!
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Don't forget also about the Codex Alimentarius changes pushed through the WTO.
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Just ANOTHER reason I grow as much of my own food as possible and source the rest from local farms from people I know.

Also another good reason to live in Texas where you really can grow and/or source nearly everything you need locally. Raw milk, raw honey, grass-fed beef, raspberries, blackberries, squash of all kinds, Broccoli, cauliflower, tomatoes, onions, sweet and regular potatoes, asparagus...

Whats disturbing is that some people I know call me "the guy who eats weird!!

Chips and cokes and crap... Now THAT'S weird...
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Our government is actively allowing us to be poisoned. EPA and BP with Corexit, radioactive home furnishings, fraking, irradiating food, pharmaceutical corps not accountable for the damage they do.

The corporations are allowed to hide their poison behind "trade secrets' and the government hides behind "classified and national security".

It is only through perseverance and luck that we ever find out the harm that is visited on the ordinary person.
 Quoting: R&y


so what

weare nothing but "insects" and "excrement":

How the House of Rothschild destroyed the World:
[link to 911wasahoax.blogspot.com]

“Our race is the Master Race. We are divine gods on this planet. We are as different from the inferior races as they are from insects. In fact, compared to our race, other races are beasts and animals, cattle at best. Other races are considered as human excrement. Our destiny is to rule over the inferior races. Our earthly kingdom will be ruled by our leader with a rod of iron. The masses will lick our feet and serve us as our slaves." — Menachem Begin - Israeli Prime Minister 1977–1983”
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1- being vegan doesn't save you thanks to Monsanto
2- ever wonder why at the G8 held in Chi a year or so ago, the O spoke on....I kid you NOT.....FOOD SECURITY....anyone ever find his speech? Why is his talk a secret?
3- that's why I've prepped for years. Didn't you see this coming?
4- buy only from a local butcher...be sure he is right...and only local farmers for produce.
5- I've learned how to can, dehydrate, smoke all kinds of foods.
6- until they catch you, grow your own
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Damn it, now I have to buy some cows. Fuck this shit.
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... bad news ...
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Damn it, now I have to buy some cows. Fuck this shit.
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a top breed or dairy goats would be better.

Their butter looks and sells like Platinum.
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If you think the U.S. government is doing a sub-par job of keeping your food safe, brace yourself. You could soon be eating imported seafood, beef or chicken products that don’t meet even basic U.S. food safety standards. Under two new trade agreements, currently in negotiation, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) could be powerless to shut down imports of unsafe food or food ingredients. And if it tries, multinational corporations will be able to sue the U.S. government for the loss of anticipated future profits.

More frightening? Negotiations for both agreements are taking place behind closed doors, with input allowed almost exclusively from the corporations and industry trade groups that stand to benefit the most. And the Obama Administration intends to push the agreements through Congress without so much as giving lawmakers access to draft texts, much less the opportunity for debate.

Designed to grease the wheels of world commerce, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) would force the U.S. and other participating countries to “harmonize” food safety standards. That means all countries that sign on to the agreement would be required to abide by the lowest common denominator standards of all participating governments. So for instance, say Vietnam allows higher residues of veterinary antibiotics in seafood than the U.S. allows, and Vietnam and the U.S. both sign on to the TPP. As a trade partner, the U.S. could be forced to lower its standards to allow for imports of seafood from Vietnam – or face a lawsuit by the seafood exporter for depriving the company of future sales of its products in the U.S.

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]
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and in turn those who devise such horrors for others will begin receiving all form of vile disease and unmentionable horror themselves, painful maladies they as yet can't even imagine will come upon them like thieves in the night (which they are in truth)

tit for tat

when the witnesses arrive prior to the antichrist

with the capacity to speak their will to life in that regard

yee haw

gonna be a wild a wooly ride to the finish

no holds barred

I don't really care what goes down in the interim

eyes on the prize, that's all
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If you think the U.S. government is doing a sub-par job of keeping your food safe, brace yourself. You could soon be eating imported seafood, beef or chicken products that don’t meet even basic U.S. food safety standards. Under two new trade agreements, currently in negotiation, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) could be powerless to shut down imports of unsafe food or food ingredients. And if it tries, multinational corporations will be able to sue the U.S. government for the loss of anticipated future profits.

More frightening? Negotiations for both agreements are taking place behind closed doors, with input allowed almost exclusively from the corporations and industry trade groups that stand to benefit the most. And the Obama Administration intends to push the agreements through Congress without so much as giving lawmakers access to draft texts, much less the opportunity for debate.

Designed to grease the wheels of world commerce, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP) and the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) would force the U.S. and other participating countries to “harmonize” food safety standards. That means all countries that sign on to the agreement would be required to abide by the lowest common denominator standards of all participating governments. So for instance, say Vietnam allows higher residues of veterinary antibiotics in seafood than the U.S. allows, and Vietnam and the U.S. both sign on to the TPP. As a trade partner, the U.S. could be forced to lower its standards to allow for imports of seafood from Vietnam – or face a lawsuit by the seafood exporter for depriving the company of future sales of its products in the U.S.

[link to www.organicconsumers.org]
 Quoting: Fhirinne





o'bummer you say

indeed

one of the first to rue the error of his ways and means

committe or no

that rubber stamp won't much hide him from his own just desserts

he won't even have to raise a fork to his lips to receive his due accordingly

oh and by the way...

we won't forget the "gravy"

'; )

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