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DYSTOPIC FICTION THREAD ... the classics we should all read before they are banned

 
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DYSTOPIC FICTION THREAD ... the classics we should all read before they are banned
I have read the following and found them very insightful...

ANIMAL FARM (George Orwell)

1984 (George Orwell) -- this one was the turning point for me -- approxmately 1990

ATLAS SHRUGGED (Ayn Rand)


What else should I and everyone else be reading? Please add to the list & why.

1984 peeled the veil back from my eyes. I read it and realized that everything that guy was talking about was already happening. And the thing is, most of my fellow students were hung up on the 'date' of 1984 so when I asked them about the book their response was, "Well yeah, but its not 1984". Sigh.

This was also about the time I really finally understood what the electoral college was. I asked about it in class and asked how were supposed to believe that all of the people hired to cast the electoral votes would vote the way they were supposed to and not the way they wanted to. The reply from the teacher was: "We just have to trust them."

Apparently I have been a conspiracy theorist since High School.
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How about...


BRAVE NEW WORLD (Aldous Huxley)

I haven't read it, but its in my Amazon shopping cart right now...
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Re: DYSTOPIC FICTION THREAD ... the classics we should all read before they are banned
How about non-fiction.....

"Civil Disobedience" by Henry David Thoreau
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Won't be banned, but LORD OF THE FLIES (coming to your hometown soon).

FARNEHIET 451
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How about non-fiction.....

"Civil Disobedience" by Henry David Thoreau
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I've never read that, either.
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Margaret Atwood writes good dystopic fiction. The handmaid's tale, oryx and crake, and the year of the flood are my favorites.
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Some Charles Dickens with his workhouses and debt prisons. Please Sir.
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Anything by William Gibson
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Anything by William Gibson
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Love William Gibson. Was just telling a coworker about IDORU the other day. That time is nearly upon us, I fear.

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How about non-fiction.....

"Civil Disobedience" by Henry David Thoreau
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I've never read that, either.
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WHAT!!!!

It is short, beautiful, and a MUST READ!!!!.

Thoreau refused to pay taxes, was thrown in jail, and got pissed when his friends bailed him out!!!! A REAL MAN!!
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Anything by William Gibson
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Or Philip K. Dick.

As well as:

Fahrenheit 451

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We (the source for my current username)

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Clockwork Orange (book, not movie)

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The Trial

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Player Piano

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Anything by William Gibson
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Or Philip K. Dick.

As well as:

Fahrenheit 451

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

We (the source for my current username)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Clockwork Orange (book, not movie)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Trial

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Player Piano

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
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GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS....

A Clockwork Orange is what many of the psychologists working for a certain organization that shall remain nameless(BAN) predicted would be the final outcome of their strategies.

The disassociation of the individual. Where he becomes the entirety of society for himself. Our current electronic age, where most humans interact through electronic media, is thought to signify that.

It predicts a very violent welfare state - SOUND FAMILIAR??

Fred Emery wrote a book "Futures We Are In" (1975) that lay it all out if curious.....
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Or Philip K. Dick.


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I really liked radio free albemuth which I read recently.
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Tony Robbins' Awaken the Giant Within terrified me... or maybe it was just his teeth
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Anything by William Gibson
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Or Philip K. Dick.

As well as:

Fahrenheit 451

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

We (the source for my current username)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Clockwork Orange (book, not movie)

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

The Trial

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]

Player Piano

[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
 Quoting: D-503


GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS....

A Clockwork Orange is what many of the psychologists working for a certain organization that shall remain nameless(BAN) predicted would be the final outcome of their strategies.

The disassociation of the individual. Where he becomes the entirety of society for himself. Our current electronic age, where most humans interact through electronic media, is thought to signify that.

It predicts a very violent welfare state - SOUND FAMILIAR??

Fred Emery wrote a book "Futures We Are In" (1975) that lay it all out if curious.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9204853


You're talking about the CIA and SRI experiments right?
I don't think so,
he's up there with the others laying low,
vying with those who you've traded your life to to bless your soul,
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Phlip K. Dick was truly a savant. Also a conspiracy theorist. They may have driven him to his end. IMHO.
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Phlip K. Dick was truly a savant. Also a conspiracy theorist. They may have driven him to his end. IMHO.
 Quoting: tandym


Speed might of hastened it some as well.
The story in albemuth is based on Dick's own experiences, including the miraculous diagnosis of his son's illness, Dick credits to his telepathic connection to an alien intelligence ( black knight satellite ).
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GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS....

A Clockwork Orange is what many of the psychologists working for a certain organization that shall remain nameless(BAN) predicted would be the final outcome of their strategies.

The disassociation of the individual. Where he becomes the entirety of society for himself. Our current electronic age, where most humans interact through electronic media, is thought to signify that.

It predicts a very violent welfare state - SOUND FAMILIAR??

Fred Emery wrote a book "Futures We Are In" (1975) that lay it all out if curious.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9204853


If you read We, there's a really spooky bit that compares individual consciousness to a sickness. Like how you only are aware of your eye if there's something in it, or you are only aware of your big toe or some other body part if you've injured it. It's pretty trippy. And incredibly well-written, almost poetic.
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GREAT RECOMMENDATIONS....

A Clockwork Orange is what many of the psychologists working for a certain organization that shall remain nameless(BAN) predicted would be the final outcome of their strategies.

The disassociation of the individual. Where he becomes the entirety of society for himself. Our current electronic age, where most humans interact through electronic media, is thought to signify that.

It predicts a very violent welfare state - SOUND FAMILIAR??

Fred Emery wrote a book "Futures We Are In" (1975) that lay it all out if curious.....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9204853


If you read We, there's a really spooky bit that compares individual consciousness to a sickness. Like how you only are aware of your eye if there's something in it, or you are only aware of your big toe or some other body part if you've injured it. It's pretty trippy. And incredibly well-written, almost poetic.
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Will check it out....THANKS!!!!

I read WAYYYY too much.......Says my wife!!!rockon
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What not include the obvious in this thread?

NY TIMES, CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, etc.

Now that's some dystopic fiction!
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How about...


BRAVE NEW WORLD (Aldous Huxley)

I haven't read it, but its in my Amazon shopping cart right now...
 Quoting: tandym

I read it in part.
I do advise you to read it completely.
There is also a movie made from it which looks quite good (in the 60's I think).
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Phlip K. Dick was truly a savant. Also a conspiracy theorist. They may have driven him to his end. IMHO.
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Now that you are saying it... actually I wouldn't be surprised in the least.

Did you also notice how Oscar Wilde, who I lately noticed had a brilliant mind as visible from those popular quotes of his, also lost everything he had - his fortune, his reputation, his family, his health, his life... and I decided this was no chain of coincidences either.
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I have read the following and found them very insightful...

ANIMAL FARM (George Orwell)

1984 (George Orwell) -- this one was the turning point for me -- approxmately 1990

ATLAS SHRUGGED (Ayn Rand)


What else should I and everyone else be reading? Please add to the list & why.
 Quoting: tandym

"Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank.
A classic IMHO. Relates what happens and how diverse people react when the USA falls prey to a nuclear attack...
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What not include the obvious in this thread?

NY TIMES, CNN, MSNBC, FOXNEWS, etc.

Now that's some dystopic fiction!
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Really, it's some baaaad ass writing. Orwell and Huxley look like unimaginative clowns next to the modern msm literati.
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Of course this one:
Island is the final book by English writer Aldous Huxley, published in 1962. It is the account of Will Farnaby, a cynical journalist who is shipwrecked on the fictional island of Pala. Island is Huxley's utopian counterpart to his most famous work, the 1932 novel Brave New World, itself often paired with George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. The ideas that would become Island can be seen in a foreword he wrote in 1946 to a new edition of Brave New World:


If I were now to rewrite the book, I would offer the Savage a third alternative. Between the Utopian and primitive horns of his dilemma would lie the possibility of sanity... In this community economics would be decentralist and Henry-Georgian, politics Kropotkinesque co-operative. Science and technology would be used as though, like the Sabbath, they had been made for man, not (as at present and still more so in the Brave New World) as though man were to be adapted and enslaved to them. Religion would be the conscious and intelligent pursuit of man's Final End, the unitive knowledge of immanent Tao or Logos, the transcendent Godhead or Brahman. And the prevailing philosophy of life would be a kind of Higher Utilitarianism, in which the Greatest Happiness principle would be secondary to the Final End principle – the first question to be asked and answered in every contingency of life being: "How will this thought or action contribute to, or interfere with, the achievement, by me and the greatest possible number of other individuals, of man's Final End?"


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Good thread, and thankfully, I think "banning" books in the digital age would be rather difficult
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How about...


BRAVE NEW WORLD (Aldous Huxley)

I haven't read it, but its in my Amazon shopping cart right now...
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Brave New World Revisited, its his response to 1984
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Good thread, and thankfully, I think "banning" books in the digital age would be rather difficult
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Good thread, indeed.

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