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****BREAKING**** 4 New Cases HUMAN MAD COW DISEASE/CJD, VANCOUVER, BC CANADA

 
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****BREAKING**** 4 New Cases HUMAN MAD COW DISEASE/CJD, VANCOUVER, BC CANADA
[link to globalnews.ca]

4 Confirmed cases of Mad Cow/CJD in the Lower Mainland, British Columbia (Fraser Valley area), 1 has already died.
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4 cases from same area, same hospital (Royal Columbian in New Westminster).

Public Health trying to snow the public, saying no cause for concern. Seriously ? The Fraser Valley is a major producer of beef, dairy, and poultry.
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Oh no =( Wonder how much beef is infected .
Burn it all down! That whole area of earth I command my Legion to Nuke the holy Fuck out of the Holy land and be done with it!
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CDC is already making it clear they will go to any length to determine the source of this outbreak including but not limited too private homes, work places, medical and travel records, supermarkets, farms, meat packing plants.

I remember when the bird flu hit down here and there was a mass poultry slaughter. I can't imagine what it will be like if they go for the cattle. Between the dairy and beef industry it's going to be a massive undertaking (pun fully intended).
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idiots state not to panic..that means PANIC and don't NOT eat beef
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As a cattleman, my only comment is it is obvious this is not coming from feed sources. It has been 10 years or more since the things that were suppose to have caused this were banned. WTF!
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A local meat packing plant perhaps ?

Thing is, human mad cow is exceedingly rare in Canada. There are 5-7 confirmed cases per year (maybe more which go undiagnosed). Too have 4 cases in one very specific geographic area, same age group, all at the same hospital has got to be more than just a statistical anomaly.
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“I think the really important thing to get out is that this is ‘classic’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob. It’s a disease that happens for reasons we don’t understand,” he said.

It’s not ‘variant’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob, which is associated with food and mad cow disease and all the things people are worried about.”
[link to www.ottawacitizen.com]

This is not mad cow disease(vCJD) it is "classic" Creutzfeldt-Jakob.
This happens in one in a million people spontaneously and can only be spread by contaminated surgical instruments!!!

Many people do not understand the difference including reporters and journalists......causing false alarm!
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I don't eat beef any more, it feels like it's all infected these days
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I don't eat beef any more, it feels like it's all infected these days
 Quoting: YoungCardinals


its not
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“I think the really important thing to get out is that this is ‘classic’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob. It’s a disease that happens for reasons we don’t understand,” he said.

It’s not ‘variant’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob, which is associated with food and mad cow disease and all the things people are worried about.”
[link to www.ottawacitizen.com]

This is not mad cow disease(vCJD) it is "classic" Creutzfeldt-Jakob.
This happens in one in a million people spontaneously and can only be spread by contaminated surgical instruments!!!

Many people do not understand the difference including reporters and journalists......causing false alarm!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630761


I respectfully disagree.

For sCJD to be truly spontaneous/classic it must not occur in clusters. A cluster is generally thought to be anything more than the average 1/1 million.

Recent info suggests that the local health authority has been investigating up to 6 cases with 4 confirmed. All patients are from the same locale (within 50 km of each other). They are close in age. These patients have been in hospital for 'some time'.

If this were a case of surgical contaminant transmission, patient 0 would have been identified by now. I do not believe it is a case of surgical contamination. The health authority has already stated that they are investigating causes unrelated to hospitalization. It sounds to me like they believe these cases are community acquired.
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Re: ****BREAKING**** 4 New Cases HUMAN MAD COW DISEASE/CJD, VANCOUVER, BC CANADA
“I think the really important thing to get out is that this is ‘classic’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob. It’s a disease that happens for reasons we don’t understand,” he said.

It’s not ‘variant’ Creutzfeldt-Jakob, which is associated with food and mad cow disease and all the things people are worried about.”
[link to www.ottawacitizen.com]

This is not mad cow disease(vCJD) it is "classic" Creutzfeldt-Jakob.
This happens in one in a million people spontaneously and can only be spread by contaminated surgical instruments!!!

Many people do not understand the difference including reporters and journalists......causing false alarm!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630761


I respectfully disagree.

For sCJD to be truly spontaneous/classic it must not occur in clusters. A cluster is generally thought to be anything more than the average 1/1 million.

Recent info suggests that the local health authority has been investigating up to 6 cases with 4 confirmed. All patients are from the same locale (within 50 km of each other). They are close in age. These patients have been in hospital for 'some time'.

If this were a case of surgical contaminant transmission, patient 0 would have been identified by now. I do not believe it is a case of surgical contamination. The health authority has already stated that they are investigating causes unrelated to hospitalization. It sounds to me like they believe these cases are community acquired.
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you are making assumtions not based on facts.
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I don't eat beef any more, it feels like it's all infected these days
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its not
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it is infected with human greed and animal suffering.
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But how would you know if a Canadian had it or not? I mean they all act pretty deranged.


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I don't eat beef any more, it feels like it's all infected these days
 Quoting: YoungCardinals


its not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630761


it is infected with human greed and animal suffering.
 Quoting: new & improved


unfortunately i can't argue with you there.....usually true... but not always.
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But how would you know if a Canadian had it or not? I mean they all act pretty deranged.


poop
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Nah. We caught the crazee from your damn draft dodgers who decided to make themselves scarce and come hide out up here.

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bump
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Irish hospital may have infected surgery patients with mad cow disease:

[link to www.independent.ie]


The group of patients underwent surgery at Beaumont Hospital.

They were operated on using instruments that had been used on another patient who was later diagnosed with Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (CJD).
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Fuck you chicken and a cow!
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[link to globalnews.ca]

4 Confirmed cases of Mad Cow/CJD in the Lower Mainland, British Columbia (Fraser Valley area), 1 has already died.
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John Titor, right again. This will become an epidemic.
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But how would you know if a Canadian had it or not? I mean they all act pretty deranged.


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Mad cow can be hard to identify:


[link to www.independent.ie]

THE patient at the centre of the Beaumont Hospital CJD scare presented with such unusual symptoms that the possibility that they had the fatal degenerative disease "just wasn't on the radar", according to a senior health service source.
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Oh no =( Wonder how much beef is infected .
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LOL. This was my first thought too. Beef is getting really expensive and this won't help.
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I don't eat beef any more, it feels like it's all infected these days
 Quoting: YoungCardinals


its not
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41630761


it is infected with human greed and animal suffering.
 Quoting: new & improved


THIS.
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titor time??
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Re: ****BREAKING**** 4 New Cases HUMAN MAD COW DISEASE/CJD, VANCOUVER, BC CANADA
this is a silent time bomb that is ticking...remember the spike in mad cow disease in the US in mid 200s well this disease stays dormant in people for over a decade....spike in alzheimers or is it mad cow?

just look at USDa vs Creekstone...

pretty much in the patriot act as well...only usda will test meat and it is only random samples...
forget that there are non invasive cheap molecular diagnostic tests that can be created and sold where cattle ranchers can test every animal for safety...

but that would mean a lot of animals would need to get slaughtered (infected) and huge losses to cattle ranchers and meat industry...

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