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Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.

 
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Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
Ricardo Montalban IMMORTALIZED Khan and made him Colombian forever.

Hollywood and its Welfare for White workers program had to go and screw with the Formula.

The movie was shit. More corn with mega CGI effects.

The Englishman could never seeth like Ricardo did.

It would have been a perfect time to introduce America to a new young Colombian or Dark Latino/Hispanic actor future star.

Star Trek was groundbreaking for its breaking of taboo's. It had the FIRST interracial kiss in American cinema between Kirk and Uhura.

It took head on issues of morality,race and societies evils by placing them in Science Fiction in the future.

In today's prefascist reboot of Whiteness world it is not surprising that they would try to dumb the public down on what Star Trek represents or represented.
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Khan was written as South Asian, aka Indian. They fucked that up.
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Khan was written as South Asian, aka Indian. They fucked that up.
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No. Ricardo Montalban NAILED IT. He made Khan HAVE to have a Colombian accent forever.
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Re: Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
yeah, Kahn is not Colombian any more than he's English. so, there is no particular reason any Latin actor would be used in the recasting.

i thought Ricardo Monteban did an excellent job as Kahn, particularly in the episode 'Space Seed'. he is very convincing as the character.

i havent seen STID. however, the group on the Botany Bay were supposed to have escaped earth and disappeared after the genetics war. there were others like them on earth. the movie could have just made this new villain someone other than Kahn.
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Re: Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
Here is what the writers originally intended Khan to be.

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I annoyed me that they reused the "Spoke dies to radiation saving the ship" scenario. Except reversed with Kirk.
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a photo from space seed

[link to oi43.tinypic.com]
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I annoyed me that they reused the "Spoke dies to radiation saving the ship" scenario. Except reversed with Kirk.
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LOL Spock. Serves me right for staying up late.
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Star Trek was RUINED as soon as they dropped Darth Vader from the series!!

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KHAAAAAAN!
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Re: Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
What you mean they turned Khan into a fancy boy.
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Khan has a Colombian accent and MAD Latino Swagga.

I don't know WHO the fuck THAT was supposed to be.
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I annoyed me that they reused the "Spoke dies to radiation saving the ship" scenario. Except reversed with Kirk.
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Yeah that shit was WACK Sun.
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Ricardo Montalbán


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Ricardo Gonzalo Pedro Montalbán y Merino, KSG was a Mexican radio, television, theatre, and film actor. He had a career spanning seven decades, and was known for many different roles. Wikipedia








Born: November 25, 1920, Mexico City, Mexico


Died: January 14, 2009, Los Angeles, CA


Height: 6' 0" (1.83 m)


Spouse: Georgiana Young (m. 1944–2007)


Children: Anita Montalbán, Victor Montalbán, Laura Montalbán, Mark Montalbán
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Khan was the only character I've ever seen on Star Trek with bigger balls than Kirk. That's because of Ricardo Montalban.
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Your first mistake is apparently thinking that this POS movie is actually Star Trek. It is NOT.

JJ doesn't know Star Trek from Star Wars. He is LOST. In trying to make his own Star Trek, he has instead created an insult to Gene Roddenberry.

I'm sure when he makes his EP VII of Star Wars, Mickey and Minney and a LOST polar bear will be the new characters. I'm sure the evil Death Star will will be shaped like Mickey's ears.

Can't wait.
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The OP doth projects too much methinks!
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Ricardo Montalbán


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Ricardo Gonzalo Pedro Montalbán y Merino, KSG was a Mexican radio, television, theatre, and film actor. He had a career spanning seven decades, and was known for many different roles. Wikipedia








Born: November 25, 1920, Mexico City, Mexico


Died: January 14, 2009, Los Angeles, CA


Height: 6' 0" (1.83 m)


Spouse: Georgiana Young (m. 1944–2007)


Children: Anita Montalbán, Victor Montalbán, Laura Montalbán, Mark Montalbán
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41147159

He sure did one Hell of a colombian accent. Must have been all that "Rich Corinthian Leather". cruise
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Your first mistake is apparently thinking that this POS movie is actually Star Trek. It is NOT.

JJ doesn't know Star Trek from Star Wars. He is LOST. In trying to make his own Star Trek, he has instead created an insult to Gene Roddenberry.

I'm sure when he makes his EP VII of Star Wars, Mickey and Minney and a LOST polar bear will be the new characters. I'm sure the evil Death Star will will be shaped like Mickey's ears.

Can't wait.
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clappa
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Re: Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
Ricardo Montalbán


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Ricardo Gonzalo Pedro Montalbán y Merino, KSG was a Mexican radio, television, theatre, and film actor. He had a career spanning seven decades, and was known for many different roles. Wikipedia








Born: November 25, 1920, Mexico City, Mexico


Died: January 14, 2009, Los Angeles, CA


Height: 6' 0" (1.83 m)


Spouse: Georgiana Young (m. 1944–2007)


Children: Anita Montalbán, Victor Montalbán, Laura Montalbán, Mark Montalbán
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He sure did one Hell of a colombian accent. Must have been all that "Rich Corinthian Leather". cruise
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He confused him with Juan Valdez the coffee grower
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Ricardo Montalbán


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Ricardo Gonzalo Pedro Montalbán y Merino, KSG was a Mexican radio, television, theatre, and film actor. He had a career spanning seven decades, and was known for many different roles. Wikipedia








Born: November 25, 1920, Mexico City, Mexico


Died: January 14, 2009, Los Angeles, CA


Height: 6' 0" (1.83 m)


Spouse: Georgiana Young (m. 1944–2007)


Children: Anita Montalbán, Victor Montalbán, Laura Montalbán, Mark Montalbán
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41147159

He sure did one Hell of a colombian accent. Must have been all that "Rich Corinthian Leather". cruise
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He confused him with Juan Valdez the coffee grower
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Ricardo Montalban was a STAR Sir. He earned his respect.
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Re: Star Trek "Into Darkness" RUINED By Turning Khan From Colombian To Nancy Boy Englishman.
Your first mistake is apparently thinking that this POS movie is actually Star Trek. It is NOT.

JJ doesn't know Star Trek from Star Wars. He is LOST. In trying to make his own Star Trek, he has instead created an insult to Gene Roddenberry.

I'm sure when he makes his EP VII of Star Wars, Mickey and Minney and a LOST polar bear will be the new characters. I'm sure the evil Death Star will will be shaped like Mickey's ears.

Can't wait.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3647468


Agreed
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Although,I will admit Benedict cumberbatch made a better Sherlock Holmes than he did as Khan, he is nevertheless an extremely talented actor. (As Benedict is so slim, I think it would have been far better if he had been beefed up using a Batman-like suit,especially for those who remember Montalban.)

Still his portrayal is excellent..notice the animal-like expression when he says to Kirk that he is Khan..very reminiscent of the Anthony Hopkins expressions in Silence Of The Lambs. His arrogance is not as overly dramatic as Ricardo's was, but it was there. More intellect..less sensual.

The op is to be reminded that this is an alternate universe established by Nero and Spock coming through the wormhole and making a new timeline...Everyone is younger..including Khan. Spock knows he can be emotional in this timeline but still, his tears in the death scene are particularly moving as he seemingly finally understands the concept of human friendship.

Karl Urban's does a ok portrayal of the folksy Doctor McCoy, but perhaps the film's best offerings are the tremendous expansions of the talents and contributions of Sulu and Chekhov . It is also fantastic to see the crews total teamwork on constant display. Just great! I also liked how Carol Marcus was brought into Kirk's life and the hints of their future romance.

For me what was hard to grasp was Spock and Ahura. Following after him, she seemed to not be at her post too much of the time..and she even seemed to be giving him her permission to to get Khan. Still, it's a very minor complaint..they'll probably be married in the next flick.

The two movies are very well done in my opinion.. the op needs to view them a few times to reflect on the individual colorings the actors gave to their characters..characters they knew that we knew.

Even with my admiration of Cumberbatch, I too think a Latino actor should have been used..if only because the original was Latino. It's would be a logical continuation of a memorable villian.

The op's opposition is however just ANTI-WHITE RACISM. This gives his criticisms a vulgarity that is totally out of whack with the diversity these two movies expressed so well.
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Although,I will admit Benedict cumberbatch made a better Sherlock Holmes than he did as Khan, he is nevertheless an extremely talented actor. (As Benedict is so slim, I think it would have been far better if he had been beefed up using a Batman-like suit,especially for those who remember Montalban.)

Still his portrayal is excellent..notice the animal-like expression when he says to Kirk that he is Khan..very reminiscent of the Anthony Hopkins expressions in Silence Of The Lambs. His arrogance is not as overly dramatic as Ricardo's was, but it was there. More intellect..less sensual.

The op is to be reminded that this is an alternate universe established by Nero and Spock coming through the wormhole and making a new timeline...Everyone is younger..including Khan. Spock knows he can be emotional in this timeline but still, his tears in the death scene are particularly moving as he seemingly finally understands the concept of human friendship.

Karl Urban's does a ok portrayal of the folksy Doctor McCoy, but perhaps the film's best offerings are the tremendous expansions of the talents and contributions of Sulu and Chekhov . It is also fantastic to see the crews total teamwork on constant display. Just great! I also liked how Carol Marcus was brought into Kirk's life and the hints of their future romance.

For me what was hard to grasp was Spock and Ahura. Following after him, she seemed to not be at her post too much of the time..and she even seemed to be giving him her permission to to get Khan. Still, it's a very minor complaint..they'll probably be married in the next flick.

The two movies are very well done in my opinion.. the op needs to view them a few times to reflect on the individual colorings the actors gave to their characters..characters they knew that we knew.

Even with my admiration of Cumberbatch, I too think a Latino actor should have been used..if only because the original was Latino. It's would be a logical continuation of a memorable villian.

The op's opposition is however just ANTI-WHITE RACISM. This gives his criticisms a vulgarity that is totally out of whack with the diversity these two movies expressed so well.
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No. Racism is the fact that TV and Movies are practically ALL White today even though society is mote multiracial than ever. My comments are intentionally crude to make a point. The point is that I SPIT on Hollywood.
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I haven't seen an all-white movie since Lord Of The Rings. Hollywood promotes black man-white woman like it's going out of style. I guess that's why you hate ST-ID. A black woman likes a white guy..well the actress did it for money and only because here boy is controlled by her in the film and he's a physically powerful super intelligent alien. Such Haile Berry stuff doesn't exist outside of movies-in the real world..it just makes the opposite happen endlessly-black men-white women.

In general, I hate Hollywood too, but privately, in their real world, it's white genocide they want. The "whites" you see on screen are usually that two percent who own Hollywood. They're white when their crimes are discovered ..like printing money out of thin air or running pedophile sex rings. They chortle when the non-whites, as planned, point an accusing finger at the white race..its a centuries old blame deflection tradition.

I haven't looked at Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto, but I assure you that William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy fullfil the requirements. Check out what Nimoy is doing in his spare time..he and fellow triber Hugh Hefner have a lot in common.

I am not going to worry about it..no point. I am a trekky and I will remember Shatner and Nimoy as I want to remember them. But I'm not fooled by deceit, greed and arrogance..however it manifests itself.
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I didn't watch the first updated Star Trek when it came out because I grew up on the original series and later the Next Generation. I won tickets to see Into Darkness so I got the dvd so I would know the back story.

No, it is not like the original. But I was surprised to find that it did grow on me. I understand it as a new revisioning of the story, and accept it as such.

I liked the new Khan. (Loved the accent!)
Yeah, they rehashed a lot of Wrath of Khan in the movie, but I see it as a tribute to the story. And remember, this is all happening in an alternate timeline universe.

As for the "racist" claim--SHUT UP. "Whitey", as you put it, created the advanced western civilization you are fortunate enough to live in. Foreigners used to come to America to assimilate and become a part of this great nation.Now they come and want to recreate the conditions of whatever hellhole they were trying to get away from.

I am sick that this country has been allowed to be invaded and taken over by foreigners. We don't have a culture anymore because we have forgotten our past, and allowed whatever is new and shiny on any particular day to become our new lifestyle.
Without a unifying culture, a society falls apart. This country is becoming an amoral morass, no right or wrong, no cultural history on which to build a civilized societal foundation.
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Is it me or does look Benedict look a lot like Michael Rennie..remember the alien in The Day Time Stood Still..hmm..a grandson maybe
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Come on...they ripped off Wrath of Khan and insulted us by flying the ENTERPISE down through the atmosphere and submerging like a submarine..really? He went too far.
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hmmm, yup.
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Your first mistake is apparently thinking that this POS movie is actually Star Trek. It is NOT.

JJ doesn't know Star Trek from Star Wars. He is LOST. In trying to make his own Star Trek, he has instead created an insult to Gene Roddenberry.

I'm sure when he makes his EP VII of Star Wars, Mickey and Minney and a LOST polar bear will be the new characters. I'm sure the evil Death Star will will be shaped like Mickey's ears.

Can't wait.
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Come on...they ripped off Wrath of Khan and insulted us by flying the ENTERPISE down through the atmosphere and submerging like a submarine..really? He went too far.
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WHAT? You are kidding. Did it fly back out or was it wrecked? Khan is a brit and the Enterprise morphs into an airplane and submarine. Just great.

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