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Unexplained Youtube #34: UFO Sighting Over Lake Erie

 
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Oh dear.. Here he is again taking vids of planes.
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I want to point something out, These can't be Chinese Lanterns, For the reasons stated, They keep a formation 1st of all, But they also appear well out over the lake from nowhere, who lit them then? Then they also can just as easily vanish,If they were Chinese Lanterns, somebody would have to light it on shore and then it would drift out over the lake already lit, That is not what this footage shows at all. 2nd option is that there is somebody out in the lake in a boat and they light a lantern and release it but when the camera enters Night-shot mode, it is clear to see there is no boat.
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Oh dear.. Here he is again taking vids of planes.
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FAA & Cleveland Airports report Lake Erie UFO's Not In Normal Flight Paths, Not Showing Up On Radar and Nothing They Are Doing!!!

MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports who said These objects are not in normal flight paths, that none of these objects were anyhting they were doing and these objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well!

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far away planes (there is nothing to suggest these lights are not beyond the lake) or someone playing games with lantern type devices.

after multiple claims of sightings , no filmer has hopped in a boat for a closer shot, which is the real giveaway it is all bs.
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far away planes (there is nothing to suggest these lights are not beyond the lake) or someone playing games with lantern type devices.

after multiple claims of sightings , no filmer has hopped in a boat for a closer shot, which is the real giveaway it is all bs.
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You are incorrect as usual

Typical

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These are aircraft on landing approaches to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport.

They fly over the lake towards shore for quite a while and thus appear more or less stationary until they move off to the left towards the airport.

Tom Wertman, the Mufon investigator who is the only one who has done any rigorous research (i.e. something beyond posting "OMG" videos) proved this conclusively.
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Oh dear.. Here he is again taking vids of planes.
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Mikey needs a hobby...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10271051



These are aircraft on landing approaches to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport.

They fly over the lake towards shore for quite a while and thus appear more or less stationary until they move off to the left towards the airport.

Tom Wertman, the Mufon investigator who is the only one who has done any rigorous research (i.e. something beyond posting "OMG" videos) proved this conclusively.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39530681


Hey, now--don't try to debunk Michael Lee Hill. He has a pathological need for attention, even though he's a special Annunooki, and Eric Clapton's bastard son!
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10271051



These are aircraft on landing approaches to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport.

They fly over the lake towards shore for quite a while and thus appear more or less stationary until they move off to the left towards the airport.

Tom Wertman, the Mufon investigator who is the only one who has done any rigorous research (i.e. something beyond posting "OMG" videos) proved this conclusively.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39530681


"Aircraft on landing approaches to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport."

Reality check - They are flying the opposite direction 40 miles away East of Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport dumb ass!

Tom Wertman should have contacted the FAA and the actual airports just like MSNBC did!

MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports who said These objects are not in normal flight paths, that none of these objects were coming or going from any local airport and these objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well. Here is that MSNBC Report...

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And Tom Wertmans Bosses "Bigelow Aerospace" did not agree with Wertmans conclusion and were very vocal about it!

here is that proof...

Friday night on The Alien Agenda radio, both Eugene Erlikh and Michael Lee Hill were featured on the show. Both had filmed unknown multicolored orb/craft over Lake Erie and coincidentally live within 5 minutes of each other in Cleveland. Michael's videos go further back to 2006 and Eugene's are more recent. On April 6, 2010 Michael and Eugene unknowingly and simultaneously filmed similar multicolored orb/craft on the same night and at the same time or within minutes of each other. Both videographers made this discovery just yesterday as well.

According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology. He instructed Eugene to email him the coordinates. Eugene immediately hung up the telephone.

Now, let's assume the comments made by Erlikh are factual. I have no reason not to believe he is telling the truth based on his diligence in recording these events in an honest manner and not refusing to disclose any information to MUFON. But, when someone unknown to you calls your residence, identifies themselves as a representative of BAASS and demands information, well, it's time to start questioning people's motives.

Recently, Alfred Lambremont Webre of Examiner.com posted a very interesting article - Robert Bigelow's and MUFON's hybrid UFO investigation venture 'under review' in 2010. Mr. Webre discusses a leaked memo referencing the problems plaguing the MUFON-BAASS relationship as well as a statement issued by former MUFON international director James Carrion as part of his January 26, 2010 resignation letter.

Later though, Mr. Webre writes: MUFON’s Mark Easter pointedly stated, “I want to deal with the big picture – the level that Dr. Kelleher discussed with you. The BAASS – MUFON program is a good program. BAASS did not want to manage MUFON and MUFON did not want to manage BAASS. The only issue was an accounting issue.”

Mr. Easter stated, “The best outcome would be for the BAASS-MUFON relationship to get back on track.”

Mr. Easter continued, “MUFON has a computerized case management UFO reporting system now. To MUFON volunteers who are ready to be on 24 hour standby in this economy, the BAASS-MUFON agreement is a God-send.”

To this reporter, Mark Easter’s case for BAASS-MUFON resurrection seems a reasonable one.

Since the FAA initiative allowed BAASS to investigate pilot sightings and the fact that they later tried to gloss over this directive, seems to suggest that their reasoning is somewhat ambiguous.

So where does this leave the MUFON-BAASS relationship? I respect Mr. Webre's opinion but, frankly, I get the sense that MUFON has been compromised to a point where it will never be an independent entity again. Hey, money talks...the person handing it out does the talking. I will continue to present the information available and watch to see if 'where there's smoke, there's fire.' I suppose time will tell, though I question if the right of the public to access the truth about UFOs and extraterrestrials will ever be achieved...Lon

Source - [link to naturalplane.blogspot.com]

The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?"

This is Bigelow investigator Gary Hernandez actual response.

In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft.
As an investigator I must be completely objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions. - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator
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I can't wait to have a open public debate with Wertmen, I have so much info from Bigelow Investigator Gary Hernandez and many others to show he is so full of shit!

Even the day before he filed his conclusions Wertman had publicly released the following before his handlers told him what they wanted him to say....

Just after 8 p.m., Wertman said he was able to see "something very faint, like the head of a pin, pop in, and pop out."

So what exactly is this object?

He says the movement of the first sighting "was way too quick" for conventional aircraft. "It went from 10 degrees to 290 degrees and disappeared in a matter of just a few minutes," Wertman said.

He (Wertman) said that during the second sighting, the object was "too stationary for too long. It didn't act like a normal aircraft. If it was making a loop turn and heading back to the airport, the landing light would be getting brighter, not dimmer. And if it was moving away, wouldn't the light we were seeing be facing the other direction?"
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Source - [link to www.examiner.com]

Hmmmm I wonder what made him change his tune ;Laugh:
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Come people if it weren't for Mikey - "He has a pathological need for attention, even though he's a special Annunooki, and Eric Clapton's bastard son", - this site won't be entertaining. This dude is the most lonely, self promoting, unemployed persons we can sit back and watch. Most of his posts come midnight on. Maybe the coffin opens then. This criticism makes his day. He feels like a martyr. Sad but fun to watch. He should get a reality show.
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I live near Lake Erie. Wish I could witness some of these first hand.
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I live near Lake Erie. Wish I could witness some of these first hand.
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do you go down to the beach and hang out often?
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BTW - Do these objects even look or act like airplanes to any of you?

laugh
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Yes they do
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Mike, just stop it!

You're supposed to be Maitreya now, so start acting the part.
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Yes they do
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since when to airplanes just appear from nowhere and Vanish a few seconds later?

and 4 of them just hover together out over a lake?

laugh
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Mike, just stop it!

You're supposed to be Maitreya now, so start acting the part.
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I am not an actor
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Just ordered my Chinese lanterns. (Osborn Park) Wait for a dark still night and you will see what Mikey sees.
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Just ordered my Chinese lanterns. (Osborn Park) Wait for a dark still night and you will see what Mikey sees.
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Please recreate this exact same video then....Please!

I want to point something out, These can't be Chinese Lanterns!

For the reasons stated, They keep a formation 1st of all, But they also appear well out over the lake from nowhere, who lit them then?

Then they also can just as easily vanish,If they were Chinese Lanterns, somebody would have to light it on shore and then it would drift out over the lake already lit, That is not what this footage shows at all.

2nd option is that there is somebody out in the lake in a boat and they light a lantern and release it but when the camera enters Night-shot mode, it is clear to see there is no boat.

So good luck with your Chinese Lanterns laugh
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I can't wait to have a open public debate with Wertmen, I have so much info from Bigelow Investigator Gary Hernandez and many others to show he is so full of shit!



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20450997


Hey, no one's stopping you from revealing all that info right now.

Unless this is classified information that your friends at the NSA don't want you talking about.
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20450997 You will film my lanterns this summer, BTY since you are a musician, would you share the accomplishments so far this year that pays your bills? You have no problem promoting yourself with Orbs, why not your "career"? List your appearances or tracks you played on this year. I insist you are on the government dole.
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Come people if it weren't for Mikey - "He has a pathological need for attention, even though he's a special Annunooki, and Eric Clapton's bastard son", - this site won't be entertaining. This dude is the most lonely, self promoting, unemployed persons we can sit back and watch. Most of his posts come midnight on. Maybe the coffin opens then. This criticism makes his day. He feels like a martyr. Sad but fun to watch. He should get a reality show.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41810107


While you may have had a point 10 years ago, this delusional paranoiac's 15 minutes have been up almost that long...

He's a broken record, and a very boring one at that...
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I want to point something out, These can't be Chinese Lanterns!


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You finally got something correct...

They're not lanterns...

They are planes on approach at many, many miles distance...

They are coming at the camera, and for mile after mile they appear to be 'hovering'...

Stars are moving at astronomical speeds as is the Earth around the sun, yet the stars seem to 'hover' in one spot...

This really isn't that difficult...

Except for Mikey...

pick
"Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail"

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I want to point something out, These can't be Chinese Lanterns!


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20450997


You finally got something correct...

They're not lanterns...

They are planes on approach at many, many miles distance...

They are coming at the camera, and for mile after mile they appear to be 'hovering'...

Stars are moving at astronomical speeds as is the Earth around the sun, yet the stars seem to 'hover' in one spot...

This really isn't that difficult...

Except for Mikey...

pick
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


snake is a well note shill

shill

nuff said.
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20450997 You will film my lanterns this summer, BTY since you are a musician, would you share the accomplishments so far this year that pays your bills? You have no problem promoting yourself with Orbs, why not your "career"? List your appearances or tracks you played on this year. I insist you are on the government dole.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41813896


I was personally selected by Steve VAi as the winner of a nationwide guitar challenge contest



My music is now available on Pandora radio, and my CD's are being sold through many online internet sites such as Amazon.com Etc.

Who have no clue what my financial situation is and my musical ability is beyond you doubting it.
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this video is from a few weeks ago, For those claiming I do not really play guitar, I was playing guitar for world famous Musician Dan Reed at his recent Cleveland Concert, just so people know your a liar :-)

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Mike, just stop it!

You're supposed to be Maitreya now, so start acting the part.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41804899


He is the Maitreya alright.


Maitreya of the all-you-can-eat buffet.
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so many threads last few days with Ohio or Lake Erie in the title, it seems.
Now is the time.

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