Strange "WIZARD LIGHTS" reported over Lake Erie for hundreds of years! - (HD) Edition | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40796759 United Kingdom 06/16/2013 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While im not saying there isnt some mystery about it the overwhelming majority of sightings thrre on youtube are aircraft lights when flying head on to observer and stacked up behind eacchother and they always turn or appear to disappear because they have turned to land at a nearby airport - nearby being 10 miles etc. Historical records are interesting but refer to lights on lake rather than above. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20450997 United States 06/16/2013 01:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | While im not saying there isnt some mystery about it the overwhelming majority of sightings thrre on youtube are aircraft lights when flying head on to observer and stacked up behind eacchother and they always turn or appear to disappear because they have turned to land at a nearby airport - nearby being 10 miles etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40796759 Historical records are interesting but refer to lights on lake rather than above. FAA & Cleveland Airports report Lake Erie UFO's Not In Normal Flight Paths, Not Showing Up On Radar and Nothing They Are Doing!!! MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports who said These objects are not in normal flight paths, that none of these objects were anyhting they were doing and these objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30831615 Australia 06/16/2013 01:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | back they they had paper chinese lanterns and set things ablaze rather than modern balloons with battery powered remote lights and distant planes. hoaxing things in the sky is well documented since the late 1800s at least in america, with towns even creating strange airship stories and aliens buried in our cemetery from ufo crashes by mayors and persons of power to attract attention to their area. if the lights have been over lake eerie for hundreds of years, why hasn't one person gone out there in a boat for some ground breaking, first ever close ups? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41637068 United States 06/16/2013 03:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Lights flashed similar to 10271051 video post, yet the craft was smaller and more lights. Lost track of time until my father grabbed me and ran for the wood line, leaving all but his fishing pole in hand. Sounds of barking dogs running towards that direction as we walked over an hr to the car. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 39530681 United States 06/16/2013 01:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the lights have been over lake eerie for hundreds of years, why hasn't one person gone out there in a boat for some ground breaking, first ever close ups? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30831615 Why doesn't somebody go out NOW and get some close ups?!?! These lights appear EVERY NIGHT in the SAME PLACE!!! If they're not planes approaching the airport in Cleveland as concluded by a MUFON investigator, than this could be the biggest, best documented UFO flap in history by now if somebody would get out there and try to do some real research. It's obvious why that's not happening. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20450997 United States 06/16/2013 01:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if the lights have been over lake eerie for hundreds of years, why hasn't one person gone out there in a boat for some ground breaking, first ever close ups? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30831615 Why doesn't somebody go out NOW and get some close ups?!?! These lights appear EVERY NIGHT in the SAME PLACE!!! If they're not planes approaching the airport in Cleveland as concluded by a MUFON investigator, than this could be the biggest, best documented UFO flap in history by now if somebody would get out there and try to do some real research. It's obvious why that's not happening. "Aircraft on landing approaches to Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport." Reality check - They are flying the opposite direction 40 miles away East of Cleveland's Hopkins International Airport dumb ass! Tom Wertman should have contacted the FAA and the actual airports just like MSNBC did! MSNBC contacted the FAA and all local Cleveland Airports who said These objects are not in normal flight paths, that none of these objects were coming or going from any local airport and these objects were not showing up on any of the airports radar as well. Here is that MSNBC Report... And Tom Wertmans Bosses "Bigelow Aerospace" did not agree with Wertmans conclusion and were very vocal about it! here is that proof... Friday night on The Alien Agenda radio, both Eugene Erlikh and Michael Lee Hill were featured on the show. Both had filmed unknown multicolored orb/craft over Lake Erie and coincidentally live within 5 minutes of each other in Cleveland. Michael's videos go further back to 2006 and Eugene's are more recent. On April 6, 2010 Michael and Eugene unknowingly and simultaneously filmed similar multicolored orb/craft on the same night and at the same time or within minutes of each other. Both videographers made this discovery just yesterday as well. According to Erlikh, at approximately 6:45pm EST, on Thursday night (April 8, 2010) a private telephone call came into his residence. Eugene answered and the man on the other end assumed to know it was Eugene and called him by name. The man identified himself as a member of Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies. He did give his name and email that is, in fact, linked to the BAASS.ORG domain name. He asked Eugene a number of questions pertaining to the sightings over Lake Erie. The man then demanded Eugene give up the exact coordinates of the location the lights are appearing. When Eugene questioned the man, he stated he knew the lights were not terrestrial or from this planet and there's big money involved in obtaining that technology. He instructed Eugene to email him the coordinates. Eugene immediately hung up the telephone. Now, let's assume the comments made by Erlikh are factual. I have no reason not to believe he is telling the truth based on his diligence in recording these events in an honest manner and not refusing to disclose any information to MUFON. But, when someone unknown to you calls your residence, identifies themselves as a representative of BAASS and demands information, well, it's time to start questioning people's motives. Recently, Alfred Lambremont Webre of Examiner.com posted a very interesting article - Robert Bigelow's and MUFON's hybrid UFO investigation venture 'under review' in 2010. Mr. Webre discusses a leaked memo referencing the problems plaguing the MUFON-BAASS relationship as well as a statement issued by former MUFON international director James Carrion as part of his January 26, 2010 resignation letter. Later though, Mr. Webre writes: MUFON’s Mark Easter pointedly stated, “I want to deal with the big picture – the level that Dr. Kelleher discussed with you. The BAASS – MUFON program is a good program. BAASS did not want to manage MUFON and MUFON did not want to manage BAASS. The only issue was an accounting issue.” Mr. Easter stated, “The best outcome would be for the BAASS-MUFON relationship to get back on track.” Mr. Easter continued, “MUFON has a computerized case management UFO reporting system now. To MUFON volunteers who are ready to be on 24 hour standby in this economy, the BAASS-MUFON agreement is a God-send.” To this reporter, Mark Easter’s case for BAASS-MUFON resurrection seems a reasonable one. Since the FAA initiative allowed BAASS to investigate pilot sightings and the fact that they later tried to gloss over this directive, seems to suggest that their reasoning is somewhat ambiguous. So where does this leave the MUFON-BAASS relationship? I respect Mr. Webre's opinion but, frankly, I get the sense that MUFON has been compromised to a point where it will never be an independent entity again. Hey, money talks...the person handing it out does the talking. I will continue to present the information available and watch to see if 'where there's smoke, there's fire.' I suppose time will tell, though I question if the right of the public to access the truth about UFOs and extraterrestrials will ever be achieved...Lon Source - [link to naturalplane.blogspot.com] The host of the Radio show then E-mailed this BAASS Investigator and asked, "Hey, why are you guys calling Egene when Mufon already Stated that these are just Airplanes "Case Closed"?" This is Bigelow investigator Gary Hernandez actual response. In Regards to the Lights over Lake Erie I am not absolutely convinced that they are coming from conventional aircraft. As an investigator I must be completely objective with any UFO's reported which has multiple witnesses. BAASS employees are paid professionals, all the investigators are former law enforcement detectives who have a higher level set of skills and experience. MUFON Takes anyone who pays the money and passes the test and works for free. That does not make them a credible source for information for me to except they're conclusions. - Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies Investigator I can't wait to have a open public debate with Wertmen, I have so much info from Bigelow Investigator Gary Hernandez and many others to show he is so full of shit! Even the day before he filed his conclusions Wertman had publicly released the following before his handlers told him what they wanted him to say.... Just after 8 p.m., Wertman said he was able to see "something very faint, like the head of a pin, pop in, and pop out." So what exactly is this object? He says the movement of the first sighting "was way too quick" for conventional aircraft. "It went from 10 degrees to 290 degrees and disappeared in a matter of just a few minutes," Wertman said. He (Wertman) said that during the second sighting, the object was "too stationary for too long. It didn't act like a normal aircraft. If it was making a loop turn and heading back to the airport, the landing light would be getting brighter, not dimmer. And if it was moving away, wouldn't the light we were seeing be facing the other direction?". Source - [link to www.examiner.com] Hmmmm I wonder what made him change his tune |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39530681 United States 06/16/2013 02:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love that logic. MUFON is compromised because of their relationship with Bigelow Aerospace; Wertman allegedly has "handlers" (who would obviously have to be from Bigelow) but phone calls in the night to you from other supposed Bigelow representatives constitute proof of real UFOS. And that's not even taking into account what you're being told by your supposed contacts in the "highest secret factions of the NSA." Face it, Nibiru didn't come back in 2012. You're getting incorrect info from somewhere. There's a big chance you're being played by someone terrestrial. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20450997 United States 06/16/2013 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love that logic. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39530681 MUFON is compromised because of their relationship with Bigelow Aerospace; Wertman allegedly has "handlers" (who would obviously have to be from Bigelow) but phone calls in the night to you from other supposed Bigelow representatives constitute proof of real UFOS. And that's not even taking into account what you're being told by your supposed contacts in the "highest secret factions of the NSA." Face it, Nibiru didn't come back in 2012. You're getting incorrect info from somewhere. There's a big chance you're being played by someone terrestrial. Yes the timeline was changed in Sept. 2012 Thread: These exercises are supposedly helping in steering Ša.AM.e (Nibiru) off course and save Earth! here is the result... Thread: Video - Scientific Proof That Nibiru Has Come and Gone! |
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