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Is smoking forbidden in the bible?

 
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Tobacco smoke causes a layer of phlegm to form in the lungs. That phlegm is meant to be spat up each morning saving the lungs from particulate matter which is floating around in the atmosphere. Whether it's atmospheric nuke junk from all sorts of testing/miss-steps or wood smoke in a tee-pee tobacco protects you.
Cannabis can do the same thing but not as effectively. I'm not saying to chain smoke camels or some such hideous thing...but a decent roll-your-own protects you from all sorts of crap, IF, you have a decent cough in the morning.
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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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If God puts it on your heart that smoking is wrong, then don't do it. If he hasn't, then light up if you want to.

Forbidden in the bible? No, America is not in the bible, so neither is tobacco.
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Actually America makes it's mark in human history as foretold;
"And I saw another wild beast ascending out of the earth, and it had two horns like a lamb, but it began speaking as a dragon. 12 And it exercises all the authority of the first wild beast in its sight. And it makes the earth and those who dwell in it worship the first wild beast, whose death-stroke got healed. 13 And it performs great signs, so that it should even make fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the sight of mankind.
...... don't ask, if two of those events weren't bad enough now the victims are engulfed with Fukushima.

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So you are saying the second beast is America? Revealation 13:13 as in thirteen stars and 13 stripes. Interesting perspective.

Then who is the first beast with the head wound?
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If God puts it on your heart that smoking is wrong, then don't do it. If he hasn't, then light up if you want to.

Forbidden in the bible? No, America is not in the bible, so neither is tobacco.
 Quoting: Ford44


I'm not Christian but this is a verse

"Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own;"
1 Corinthians 6:19

Even if smoking is a sin it can be forgiven while it's debated.

Why smoke anyway when you need oxygen to breath? How many ciggarets pollute the atmosphere and cig buts in the ash tray causing secound hand smoke with cancer?

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1 - ^^^ This has to do with spiritual filth like fornication, cursing, etc. What comes out of your mouth defiles your temple, not the physical junk that goes into it.

2 - Everyone knows smoking is bad for you, so you don't need to bring the Bible into it.

3 - Jesus' never said anything about nicotine. So DO NOT PUT YOUR CONDEMNING WORDS INTO HIS MOUTH !!!

4 - If YOU want to be an un-hypocritical judge, then you have to be perfect and go after coffee, obesity, etc. What YOU MEASURE will be measured back to you.

Modern Pharisees, kindly leave the HOLY Son of God out of your lame attempts to make a dying world a better place by hating on addicts. After all Jesus said there is going to be more of them in HIS Kingdom than there will be in yours.

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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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Finally. Someone really gets how to play GLP. Tell the Op that you don't give a fuck about their religious or cultural beliefs. State that whatever you are doing is the only way to go, and that you don't give a fuck if they don't want to hear about that. Deliver an insult, and then post nothing to demonstrate your own brilliance.


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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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I understand;
"In answer Jesus said to them: “Stop murmuring among yourselves.  No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him;" Jo6:43
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Your body is to be treated like a temple of God. Do not pollute or corrupt it.
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no but yer gonna need a big bible to smoke in it
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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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Finally. Someone really gets how to play GLP. Tell the Op that you don't give a fuck about their religious or cultural beliefs. State that whatever you are doing is the only way to go, and that you don't give a fuck if they don't want to hear about that. Deliver an insult, and then post nothing to demonstrate your own brilliance.


hf
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! blimey it wasn't that good. for the record I am a christian and it's well know that the OP is a Jehovah, you can see it in his sig lines, so this is just a sect thing.
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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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I understand;
"In answer Jesus said to them: “Stop murmuring among yourselves.  No man can come to me unless the Father, who sent me, draws him;" Jo6:43
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Now that I can agree with.
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It's ok OP, we are not interested in joining the Jehovahs witlesses. We are just christians doing a pilgrims' progress. I could find fault with your beliefs but I'm not interested.
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Finally. Someone really gets how to play GLP. Tell the Op that you don't give a fuck about their religious or cultural beliefs. State that whatever you are doing is the only way to go, and that you don't give a fuck if they don't want to hear about that. Deliver an insult, and then post nothing to demonstrate your own brilliance.


hf
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! blimey it wasn't that good. for the record I am a christian and it's well know that the OP is a Jehovah, you can see it in his sig lines, so this is just a sect thing.
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"But his disciples began to ask him what this illustration might mean. 10 He said: “To YOU it is granted to understand the sacred secrets of the kingdom of God, but for the rest it is in illustrations, in order that, though looking, they may look in vain and, though hearing, they may not get the meaning. 11 Now the illustration means this: The seed is the word of God. 12 Those alongside the road are the ones that have heard, then the Devil comes and takes the word away from their hearts in order that they may not believe and be saved. 13 Those upon the rock-mass are the ones who, when they hear it, receive the word with joy, but these have no root; they believe for a season, but in a season of testing they fall away. 14 As for that which fell among the thorns, these are the ones that have heard, but, by being carried away by anxieties and riches and pleasures of this life, they are completely choked and bring nothing to perfection. 15 As for that on the fine soil, these are the ones that, after hearing the word with a fine and good heart, retain it and bear fruit with endurance." Lk8:9
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I just realised that I shouldn't be reading your thread, because you have red karma. :(
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But I used to love your threads before GLP bought in the karma tard grandstanding competition.

So keep up the good work. Or don't. I just don't know anymore :(
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WHY PEOPLE REALLYTAKE DRUGS

A few "pleasant" effects of some drugs:

ALCOHOL - makes most of us "happy", initially, and creates the illusion of general friendship; others can be aggressive.

TOBACCO
- calms nerves by relieving the craving it has created.

VALIUMS - remove (numb) the pain and revulsion at the world that we have created.

AMPHETAMINES - give us energy and intensity of thought.

CANNABIS - provokes short-term "peace of mind"; relaxation
and thought.

ECSTASY - provokes emotion that people think is joy and love.

L.S.D. - causes pleasure and a magnified appreciation of the awesome immensity of reality.

HEROIN - creates a "shield" or "bubble" that protects one from the "outside world vibes".


All the "pleasant" effects these drugs provoke are; in essence; things that CANNOT be found in the world or system we live in today. Some people, at least, desperately need to feel them. No-one goes around loving each other, we all walk around WARY of each other. When some-one sees the Divine in us (the Being) and smiles in recognition, we think: "What do they want from me?"

The world or system in which we've been brought up has taught us nothing in relation to these, our spiritual needs. Its only concern has been to teach us to want its products and to feed every want that we might have ("Self"-ish wants)* and ingrain the illegal hierarchy of the "System" deep within us. People who don't mind this "reality" are either VERY STRONG human+Beings, or, I'm sorry to say, humans deeply lacking IN ANY SPIRITUALITY WHATSOEVER.
* so we join the "rat race" to buy the system's products and consume; consume; consume and waste, thereby destroying ourselves; the planet and its natural resources.

Looking at it from a "God's Eye" perspective - all these drugs are "freely" available to any of us, in order to CANCEL the NEED for HIM (GOD). Drugs supply a very bad imitation, with very bad side-effects, of all that we feel when in DIRECT CONTACT with HIM (Love, Joy, Etc...).

Let's make no mistake - Satan / the Opposer / Evil (whatever you prefer) directs drugs at the more spiritual people to soothe the feeling that "something's not right with the world today" and prevent them from finally (after the heart-ache, sorrow and depression) DOING something about it (BEGINNING TO CHANGE THE WORLD) the system. That we cannot do this ("it's impossible") and that he doesn't exist, are 2 of the 3 biggest lies that the father of lies (the Devil) has ever told us. It is because we have believed his lies that we are in such a mess. The BIGGEST of these lies is that we are ONLY human.

The "comedown" that you feel when the effects of these chemical / physical, poor substitutes wear off, comes about because you have not used your WILL (your spirit or Being) to arrive at those feelings. You simply take the "quick and easy" human path which ALWAYS lets you down (when the drug's effect wears out). The more spiritually sensitive a person is, the greater the high, but also the greater the "comedown".

If we begin to will our way towards these BEAUTIFUL states of mind, it would then be a CONSTANT CLIMB (a PERSISTANT CONTINUAL RUSH) which will never reach its peak throughout ALL of ETERNITY. Multiply the good "feelings" drugs give by INFINITY and we begin to get an idea what HEAVEN is all about...

What will give us the impetus (the kick start) to do this is the TRUTH of why we are here on this planet and why it is so bad; why we don't just "feel good" all the time, why WE QUESTION in the first place (which is a very good question!) and knowing THE PLAN.cool2

It is up to every individual to look for the answers wherever you want to, or right here, but please bear this in mind - make sure the ones you go to, provide you with the answers YOU are looking for and don't just provide you with THEIR OWN answers. If you believe the LIE that for some questions there is no answer, then you will never receive them: "Let him who seeks, not cease (stop) seeking until he finds, and when he finds, he will be TROUBLED (the Truth hurts...at first!), and when he has been troubled, he will MARVEL and REIGN over the ALL (he will know)" - Christ, in "The Gospel of Thomas" (The Doubter).

In this evil world, people give drugs to people in order to "remove" their drug problem?!! People, your drug-dependency or usage is the result of a CAUSE, a SPIRITUAL and NON-PHYSICAL cause. We aren't chemical-dependent, we are LOVE-DEPENDENT. We have been conned into believing that, by using something physical, our Spirits / Beings / Souls (the real us); which are non-physical Light / Essence; will feel better. With every comedown you feel WORSE and the next "high" is always LOWER. The only permanent solution is to learn how to use your will-power, not only so you "don't take drugs", including pharmaceutical ones, but primarily to water the vast spiritual desert inside every one of us and fulfill the very reason for our existence.

Behind the minute "reality" this world and its people see, is a GLORIOUS and IMMENSE EXPANSE of TRUTH simply lying there waiting to be discovered by us. Truth IS stranger than fiction. No fable even begins to compare with the Script of Life that has been written by The Author Himself. It is our ignorance / arrogance (the 2 sides of the SAME coin) that prevents us from learning to read it (we think we know all there is to know).

How long will we vote for and thereby give our permission to the love-less "System" and those who actually LIKE it, to LAUGH at US? How long will we allow them to drive the "hippies" (FREEMEN AND WOMEN) into their "communities" (into themselves) where they cannot do any damage to the evil in the world? It is not the "gays" who have to come out of the closet...it is those who love GOOD, JUSTICE and FREEDOM (if they ARE free AND fear-less)...

How long will we perpetuate this lie? How long will we let our WILL (our spirit) go to waste because of lack of spiritual-exercise? How long shall we ask GOD to forgive us for being so stupid? How long shall it take, Rebels, for us to fight back...?

It's the System that drives us to drugs and is destroying us, my friends. If we don't destroy it, while we still have the opportunity, and replace it with loving and caring, before it's too late, we certainly won't be able to once it has already succeeded in destroying us.

If YOU see the truth of it, then you are ready for "The Way Home" (the kick start) by JAH, The Revealer.

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But I used to love your threads before GLP bought in the karma tard grandstanding competition.

So keep up the good work. Or don't. I just don't know anymore :(
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Well here's your back up if needed;
"These things I command YOU, that YOU love one another. 18 If the world hates YOU, YOU know that it has hated me before it hated YOU. 19 If YOU were part of the world, the world would be fond of what is its own. Now because YOU are no part of the world, but I have chosen YOU out of the world, on this account the world hates YOU. 20 Bear in mind the word I said to YOU, A slave is not greater than his master. If they have persecuted me, they will persecute YOU also; if they have observed my word, they will observe YOURS also. 21 But they will do all these things against YOU on account of my name, because they do not know him that sent me." Jo15:17
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I just realised that I shouldn't be reading your thread, because you have red karma. :(
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The casting of red karma, the casting of green karma

all a matter of opinion,
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no proof anywhere that shows smoking tobacco causes cancer. no study has ever correlated between those that died from cancer linked to smoking or from other factors like where they worked or how much exhaust they inhaled daily etc..

smoking tobacco has for thousands of years been used to heal and was givin to us by God and only now is it "bad"

those that smoke tobacco with 100's of additives probably eat alot of gmo too so they gonna die anyway.
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BillyBob her an i anit no scientist but it sounz like yer good to go wif da smokes buddy. hey didja ever snort diesal xhaust jus cuz....?
Oh yeah.. i waz raizes on this stuf din do me no damage, this hers sum footage ov ma unkle BillyBogus ata races

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no proof anywhere that shows smoking tobacco causes cancer. no study has ever correlated between those that died from cancer linked to smoking or from other factors like where they worked or how much exhaust they inhaled daily etc..

smoking tobacco has for thousands of years been used to heal and was givin to us by God and only now is it "bad"

those that smoke tobacco with 100's of additives probably eat alot of gmo too so they gonna die anyway.
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BillyBob her an i anit no scientist but it sounz like yer good to go wif da smokes buddy. hey didja ever snort diesal xhaust jus cuz....?
Oh yeah.. i waz raizes on this stuf din do me no damage, this hers sum footage ov ma unkle BillyBogus ata races

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 Quoting: CelestialMaiden


Will bakeaTaterDang me if dat anint the herowist tortus i never did c. He outta git sum kina metal or at least sumfum rittin on duck tape like 'way ta go turdel' ta put on em like a bummer stiker ya fink?
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I highly doubt anyone will be judged for smoking a cigarette. Unless you killed someone, raped someone, or did something for that cig.

If you're talking about any pollution for the supposed temple of your body. Then what about eating food with animals not free fed, without pesticides? The list goes on and on, but no worries. Smoking a cig is not something that will have you on God's bad side.
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JEsus was the biggest stoner of all time, so YES it's OK.

His "annointing oil" contained 6 kg of cannabis.

Ever wonder why so many hippies "look like Jesus"?
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life... causes death... life should be forbidden!

bane that which created life!
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JEsus was the biggest stoner of all time, so YES it's OK.

His "annointing oil" contained 6 kg of cannabis.

Ever wonder why so many hippies "look like Jesus"?
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I never thought they did considering God's view;
"Besides, in connection with [the] Lord neither is woman without man nor man without woman. 12 For just as the woman is out of the man, so also the man is through the woman; but all things are out of God. 13 Judge for YOUR own selves: Is it fitting for a woman to pray uncovered to God? 14 Does not nature itself teach YOU that if a man has long hair, it is a dishonor to him; 15 but if a woman has long hair, it is a glory to her? Because her hair is given her instead of a headdress. 16 However, if any man seems to dispute for some other custom, we have no other, neither do the congregations of God." 1Cor11:11
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JEsus was the biggest stoner of all time, so YES it's OK.

His "annointing oil" contained 6 kg of cannabis.

Ever wonder why so many hippies "look like Jesus"?
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Ummmmm NOT exactly

he DID however turn water into wine, now THAT is scriptural
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JEsus was the biggest stoner of all time, so YES it's OK.

His "annointing oil" contained 6 kg of cannabis.

Ever wonder why so many hippies "look like Jesus"?
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Ummmmm NOT exactly

he DID however turn water into wine, now THAT is scriptural
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BillyBob her an iz mor ov a beer drinkin guy but hey.... dats my knida king fer shur buddy come on bak at ya 10-40.
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Here ya go Bibletards:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Cannabis linked to Biblical healing

Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used a cannabis-based anointing oil to help cure people with crippling diseases, it has been claimed.
Researchers in the United States say the oil used in the early days of the Christian church contained a cannabis extract called kaneh-bosem.

They suggest the extract, which is absorbed into the body when placed on the skin, could have helped cure people with a variety of physical and mental problems.


(more at BBC)
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And:

"The medical use of cannabis during that time is supported by archaeological records."

He said the ancient anointing oil contained high levels of cannabis extract.

"The holy anointing oil, as described in the original Hebrew version of the recipe in Exodus, contained over six pounds of keneh-bosum - a substance identified by respected etymology, linguists anthropologists, botanists and other researchers as cannabis extracted into about six quarts of olive oil along with a variety of other fragrant herbs.

"The ancient annointed ones were literally drenched in this potent mixture."
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"Therefore, since we have these promises, beloved ones, let us cleanse ourselves of every defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in God’s fear." 2Cor7



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YES... And keep in mind (even as reiterated in this verse) that you BODY is the temple of God.

"If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." 1st Corinthians 3:17


Cut and dry... End of story.
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Revelation 15:8 - And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.



Smoke is related to the glory of God. Angels must smoke a lot! Smoking is also good for past life recall, this is why they say people with mental health issues tend to smoke more. But the truth is, cigarettes are like memory sticks.
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Here ya go Bibletards:

[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Cannabis linked to Biblical healing

Jesus Christ and his apostles may have used a cannabis-based anointing oil to help cure people with crippling diseases, it has been claimed.
Researchers in the United States say the oil used in the early days of the Christian church contained a cannabis extract called kaneh-bosem.

They suggest the extract, which is absorbed into the body when placed on the skin, could have helped cure people with a variety of physical and mental problems.


(more at BBC)
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See... This is exactly why IDIOTS like you don't make any sense, whatsoever.

You call people "bibletards", and then proceed to use the bible to prove your point... lol.

What a moron.
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Revelation 15:8 - And the temple was filled with smoke from the glory of God, and from his power; and no man was able to enter into the temple, till the seven plagues of the seven angels were fulfilled.



Smoke is related to the glory of God. Angels must smoke a lot! Smoking is also good for past life recall, this is why they say people with mental health issues tend to smoke more. But the truth is, cigarettes are like memory sticks.
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Utter nonsense.

Cigarette smoke, which not only contains tobacco smoke, but also HUNDREDS of chemical additives, destroys your vascular system, which your brain is full dependent on.

Memory sticks, my ass.

Cigarette smoke, like any other noxious pollution, is LOADED with free radicals, which AGE you more rapidly.

And spare me the talk about how your great granny lived to be 100, while smoking 10 packs a day. She WOULD have lived to be 120, with better health all along the way.

So fuck off, you lying sack of shit. Smoking wiped out most of my family and relatives. It caused me to spend half my life at the doctors offices, as a child, with asthma, ear infections, strep throat, eye problems, and a dozen other results of being a captive to second hand smoke.

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