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How deep did Noah's flood have to be to cover the mountains? Were the mt tops seabeds at the time?

 
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"And the deluge went on for forty days upon the earth, and the waters kept increasing and began carrying the ark and it was floating high above the earth. 18 And the waters became overwhelming and kept increasing greatly upon the earth, but the ark kept going on the surface of the waters. 19 And the waters overwhelmed the earth so greatly that all the tall mountains that were under the whole heavens came to be covered. 20 Up to fifteen cubits the waters overwhelmed them and the mountains became covered." Ge7;17



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If the earth's surface was flat with no mountains or valleys the water would be about 1.5 miles deep over the entire surface.
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Since the waters were able to recede after the flood then the flood being from the rain is not as likely as a possible expansion of the earths crust and eventual collapse that would have pushed water up and then provide a place for it to recede to.
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Probably one of the weirdest things is that God opened up some sort of port hole where the water came from, and later went back into.
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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Since the waters were able to recede after the flood then the flood being from the rain is not as likely as a possible expansion of the earths crust and eventual collapse that would have pushed water up and then provide a place for it to recede to.
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There are some people who believe in what is called the Hollow Earth theory.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Nostradamus Century 1: Quatrain 50
From the water trinity will be born,
One who will make Thursday as his holiday.
His renown, praise, rule, and power increase,
By land and sea to the East by storm.
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is there anything more disgusting than wet toilet paper? ...ackkk!
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high up in the himalayan mountains, you can find fossilized remains of marine creatures... once there were actual seas that high. the same with the high altitude salt plateaus in latin america and india.

but a flood covering mountain tops means a sudden planet-wide event...
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The rain fell as snow from the high hills to the mountain tops (just like in the picture), that means it needed 22.5 ft of rain, same as every other piece of land on the planet. That would have dropped the ocean levels 5 ft in the 40 days it rained. 150 days later the rocks were visible, a year after it started to rain the ocean was back to it normal level. (if the mositure came from the ice caps then the oceans would have risen 5 ft at the end of the year.

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Probably one of the weirdest things is that God opened up some sort of port hole where the water came from, and later went back into.
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Makes sense, water may have come up from under the sea bed, and it's weight sank the bed to it's current depth with the same water now on top rather than under.

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Re: How deep did Noah's flood have to be to cover the mountains? Were the mt tops seabeds at the time?
high up in the himalayan mountains, you can find fossilized remains of marine creatures... once there were actual seas that high. the same with the high altitude salt plateaus in latin america and india.

but a flood covering mountain tops means a sudden planet-wide event...
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In the Himalayas crustaceans are found at 30,000'. This doesn't mean Noah's flood was that deep, they didn't migrate through the water and die there, they can barely move at all. More likely the heavy weight of water caused tectonic plate movements up and down forming mountains and deep sea beds..
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In the Himalayas crustaceans are found at 30,000'. This doesn't mean Noah's flood was that deep, they didn't migrate through the water and die there, they can barely move at all. More likely the heavy weight of water caused tectonic plate movements up and down forming mountains and deep sea beds..
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good point.

when did the rising of the himalayan range occured? at what times was earth largely covered with water? where did all the ice came from, during the glacial periods?

a lot of high altitude areas have salt flats (bolivia, himalaya, india, ...). that would imply that a seabed got raised several kilometers.

of course, over the course of millions of years, anything possible...
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In the Himalayas crustaceans are found at 30,000'. This doesn't mean Noah's flood was that deep, they didn't migrate through the water and die there, they can barely move at all. More likely the heavy weight of water caused tectonic plate movements up and down forming mountains and deep sea beds..
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good point.

when did the rising of the himalayan range occured? at what times was earth largely covered with water? where did all the ice came from, during the glacial periods?

a lot of high altitude areas have salt flats (bolivia, himalaya, india, ...). that would imply that a seabed got raised several kilometers.

of course, over the course of millions of years, anything possible...
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That's the big question, when did the mountains rise, before or after the flood. Their being a billion years old doesn't reveal when they rose. It's hard to believe the flood was six miles deep.
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Go to this exact location sometime. You'll find fossil sea shells all over the place.

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Don't try to mix science and religion.
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Don't try to mix science and religion.
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Science is man's studies of what God made.
Religion is man made self righteous, self approved vanity in rejection of God's requirements.
They don't mix.
"6 All Scripture is inspired of God and beneficial for teaching, for reproving, for setting things straight, for disciplining in righteousness, 17 that the man of God may be fully competent, completely equipped for every good work.
4 I solemnly charge you before God and Christ Jesus, who is destined to judge the living and the dead, and by his manifestation and his kingdom, 2 preach the word, be at it urgently in favorable season, in troublesome season, reprove, reprimand, exhort, with all long-suffering and [art of] teaching. 3 For there will be a period of time when they will not put up with the healthful teaching, but, in accord with their own desires, they will accumulate teachers for themselves to have their ears tickled; 4 and they will turn their ears away from the truth, whereas they will be turned aside to false stories. 5 You, though, keep your senses in all things, suffer evil, do [the] work of an evangelizer, fully accomplish your ministry." 2Ti3:16
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if it covered the earth then how is it we find a perfectly preserved man at the top of the alps that is 15000yrs old!
oh i know.the devil put it there.
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if it covered the earth then how is it we find a perfectly preserved man at the top of the alps that is 15000yrs old!
oh i know.the devil put it there.
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Let's see him. How did a 15,000 year old man climb that high without oxygen, and why?
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if it covered the earth then how is it we find a perfectly preserved man at the top of the alps that is 15000yrs old!
oh i know.the devil put it there.
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Let's see him. How did a 15,000 year old man climb that high without oxygen, and why?
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any summit in the alps can be done without oxygen.
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if it covered the earth then how is it we find a perfectly preserved man at the top of the alps that is 15000yrs old!
oh i know.the devil put it there.
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Let's see him. How did a 15,000 year old man climb that high without oxygen, and why?
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any summit in the alps can be done without oxygen.
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Let's see the preserved man, I'm wondering why he climbed so high if it meant freezing to death.

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flood caused by neerby you, moon. read all about it.

they went east from south america, it was pangae then.


you folks really dont think at all do you. where is a thirty day boat ride from there ? who enslaved them where ?
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Re: How deep did Noah's flood have to be to cover the mountains? Were the mt tops seabeds at the time?
high up in the himalayan mountains, you can find fossilized remains of marine creatures... once there were actual seas that high. the same with the high altitude salt plateaus in latin america and india.

but a flood covering mountain tops means a sudden planet-wide event...
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Correct and that is why most people groups recorded such an historical event. If you research you will find that throughout the world highly diverse groups have a story about the great flood.
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WHERE ALL THE WATER CAME FROM FOR NOAH'S FLOOD.
Genesis 7 verse 11 says:
In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.

12 And the rain was upon the earth forty days and forty nights.


"The fountains of the great deep were broken up..."
This pertains to subterranean water - see

[link to www.damninteresting.com]

All that water is still down there some five miles deep - far below today's deepest oil well or diamond mine - waiting for release...

Also note that this is the first time that "rain" appears in the Bible. Prior, we are told in Genesis 2:5
that " And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: "for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the surface of the ground.["/i]
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if it covered the earth then how is it we find a perfectly preserved man at the top of the alps that is 15000yrs old!
oh i know.the devil put it there.
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Let's see him. How did a 15,000 year old man climb that high without oxygen, and why?
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any summit in the alps can be done without oxygen.
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Let's see the preserved man, I'm wondering why he climbed so high if it meant freezing to death.
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you don't need to wonder about that. people migrated across the alps in the neolithic. the alps are not a difficult mountain range - plenty of passes and generally low-altitude.

about the preserved man: i guess the other posters meant Ötzi, which is estimated at 3000bc.
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Re: How deep did Noah's flood have to be to cover the mountains? Were the mt tops seabeds at the time?
high up in the himalayan mountains, you can find fossilized remains of marine creatures... once there were actual seas that high. the same with the high altitude salt plateaus in latin america and india.

but a flood covering mountain tops means a sudden planet-wide event...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33568463

Correct and that is why most people groups recorded such an historical event. If you research you will find that throughout the world highly diverse groups have a story about the great flood.
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yes, i know. but what i'm wondering is how high the waters went... and if it was a general rising, or a gigantic sloshing of oceans. the fossilized remains on high altitude are from far earlier epochs in earth's history, as wel as the remaining salt flats.
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flood caused by neerby you, moon. read all about it.
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yes. the moon, or any other heavenly body with sufficient mass, could have done it.

they went east from south america, it was pangae then.
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in times of pangaea, mammalian life was not yet developped. you have to wait for late triassic times, and then the continents were already spreading out.
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Re: How deep did Noah's flood have to be to cover the mountains? Were the mt tops seabeds at the time?
What I'm wondering is how high were the submerged mountains? A few hundred feet? Did they rise to 30,000' after the flood? What about the Ron Wyatt 'boat' on Mt Ararat at 6,200', is it the ark and was it at 6,200' when the water settled or did Ararat rise it up later?
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The fact that there are marine fossils on extreme high points around the globe is undeniable proof that these areas were once under water. So, that answers the question in and of itself. Also, God pointed out in His Word that it didn't just rain for 40 days and 40 nights. He said that the fountains of the deep were broken up. Common sense says water came from above and below. Regardless, fossil evidence proves a world wide flood. People can fight it all they want but the evidence speaks for itself.
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A planet or asteroid with a strong enough gravitational field passing close enough would pull the oceans up over the continents. If you see a big change in the tides get ready.
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A planet or asteroid with a strong enough gravitational field passing close enough would pull the oceans up over the continents. If you see a big change in the tides get ready.
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Ya mean like this?

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Common sense says water came from above and below. Regardless, fossil evidence proves a world wide flood. People can fight it all they want but the evidence speaks for itself.
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common sense says flooding does not come from above, but from coastlines. fossil evidence proves elevated sea-levels, not a worldwide flood.

you can't have fossils at high altitude, unless sealevels were that high for millions of years. that's not a flood.
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A planet or asteroid with a strong enough gravitational field passing close enough would pull the oceans up over the continents. If you see a big change in the tides get ready.
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Ya mean like this?

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Cool clip but it doesn't have to impact. Just be close enough to pull on the oceans like the moon but with much more gravitational force.

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