Can anyone here prove their magical/psychic abilities?

Hope it was amusing for you as it was for me.

No stuffed animal yet, unfortunately.

You're basically just describing mass suggestion through movies.

A fascinating subject I'm sure, but not magic according to our current understanding.

Still waiting on proof or a demonstration.

Is there anyone on here with genuine abilities that are beyond ordinary?

A sigil (/ˈsɪdʒəl/; pl. sigilia or sigils; from Latin sigillum "seal") is a symbol used in magic. The term has usually referred to a type of pictorial signature of a demon or other entity; in modern usage, especially in the context of chaos magic, it refers to a symbolic representation of the magician's desired outcome.

define "magik" in the terms you decided it is?

awww, go buy the necronomicon and start doing the spells in there. teeheeheemuhahahahahahaaaaaaaaa!

I'm not talking about redefining the word "magic" so it applies to something conventionally understood, such as persuasion or suggestion.

I'm talking about magic in the sense of: an ability that cannot be explained through our current understanding of how the world works.

then call it "mystery" ...as magik is WELL KNOWN and PRACTICED every nanosecond by magik freaks...

you are seeking "unknown mysteries" and NOT esoteric / hermetic knowledge based systems (magik)

What some people on this thread have been describing as "magic" thus far has been only psychological suggestion under a different name.

I don't consider that magic.

If magic is not psychological suggestion, according to you, then what is it?

My psychic guess is that not one person will be able to prove any real psychic or magical ability.

I have asked supposedly gifted people this before, and the fucking excuses fly.

We are all magical beings; the religious institutions have taken your power with false narratives that you can't seem to break away from. Explore, investigate, question those narratives that have been imposed on you at birth.

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magik is ALREADY defined..

you can redefine it any way you like, based on whatever you decide it is, I go with 1000's of years of the defined definition. sigils / symbols are letters of alphabet, and WHY hollywood ALSO follows it

sigil -> spell (word) script (program) cast (actors) right up to the WAND itself called hollywood 9holly, sostice magik wood for wands0

I don't have a definition of magic as cast - it is already defined and used daily. and yes magic is illusion used to influence. that is what it is and has always been.

war by deception = magic from the creators of it originally. their best work is a babylon story called bible (bible / bable) - vowels did not exist in ancient times and where all "accents" come from language to language, they are a result of vowels which... did not exist in ancient times of original sigil use.

you can define as you like and ignore previous definitions - I' m leaving. keep your stuffed animal.

nobody can prove anything...


shells fall from the sky
as the sea creatures walk to land

The lady will morn the loss of the great man.

In the next hours his papers will be his history.

....................................................

debbie was home late because her loss of love .

robert wasnt the same man she married.

I understand you have a fondness for magic with a k. But yea, all you had to do was say "illusion used to influence" and I get it.

Notice I wasn't insulting your magic with a k, but just using regular old magic with a c.

Words have multiple definitions. That's how words work.

I didn't realize people would get so pissy about this subject. Chill out.

Your name is mike

Close, that's my brother's name.

I love how when someone posts a thread asking for a psychic prediction everyone and their grandma lines up and starts talking out of their ass but when you ask for something actually concrete and meaningful you might as well be talking to a wall

No, in the occult world, you won't find anyone who can demonstrate anything remarkable. They'll insinuate they can do remarkable things, but as soon as you press them for something tangible, they'll backpedal into incoherent drivel and try miserably to sound all profound and Zen and shit.

Here's something I wrote in a recent thread about ceremonial magic:

Pretty much everything in Western occultism is for Aspies and those with inferiority complexes. These feeble "magicians" start to feel better about themselves when they can memorize reams of useless "facts" with no practical utility (Qabalah, Tarot, Alchemy, Enochian, Goetia, whatever). When it's not an intellectual exercise in eclectic symbol manipulation, it's a bunch of exercises and rituals that aren't distinguishable, practically speaking, from games of pretend.

You can see the inferiority complex at work on the front page of this thread, where the OP tries to insinuate he's the reincarnation of John Dee. This form of inferiority complex even affected guys like Crowley -- he believed he was the reincarnation of Eliphas Levi.

The truth is that these so-called magicians, despite the way many of them disingenuously suggest possessing occult powers (only to retreat into vague waffling about "inner development" when pressed -- or excuses involving "causal probabilities" and other shit), aren't special in any way, shape, or form.

Don't waste your time.

words have no meaning... "the frequency of sounds produced" is the mechanism (everything, everywhere is frequency) and as far as you interpreting me, or magik, do as you will - no comment on your comments about me, I don't care what you "think". words are used in illusion creation and yes have multiple (same actually) perceived meanings. son / sun is an example. magik is is cast (spelled) with a k sigil btw - it uses same frequency and used to deceive / as illusion as we know. hollywood = magik hidden right in front of everyone. there is much more magik hidden right in front of you also. do you see it? can you recognize it?

My inclination is to agree with you here. I joined a Rosicrucian group briefly but left because I had the same impression as above.

Though I hold out the possibility that there are genuine abilities beyond the norm.

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Yea, it is a bit frustrating.

Are you saying that a word has an effect on the person reading it *apart* from the intellectual interpretation of its meaning?

what is your need?

Heh, wasn't AMORC, was it? I know someone who was with them for many years. I asked him whether any of the exercises in the monographs had worked for him, and he was like "I'm afraid not, but I like reading and thinking about this stuff all the same."

Trigger words?

Also, I myself don't deny the possibility of occult phenomena. I've just come to accept some rules of thumb:

* If it's public information (e.g., available in a book on Amazon or whatever), don't bother -- it would be an overnight sensation if there were something significant there.

* Anyone who talks openly about their occult practices (e.g., on Internet forums) can be safely ignored when it comes to tangible, demonstrable effects.

you are the dead owner of wendy's?

dave thomas

Haha!

Yes I want to see if anyone here has necromantic abilities and can bring me back from the dead.

Those are good rules of thumb.

But then, how does one come into contact with those few people who may have genuine abilities?

Bend over, and I shall make my weiner disappear.