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Intelligent design.....You may call him God.....But i refer to him as the programmer....What are you thought's on the double slit paradox....Or how partials observe us observing them and alter their movements with your theory.....Can it be tied together????
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I refer to him/it as the creator, I hope very much to meet him one day! I have a LOT of questions!
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Intelligent design.....You may call him God.....But i refer to him as the programmer....What are you thought's on the double slit paradox....Or how partials observe us observing them and alter their movements with your theory.....Can it be tied together????
 Quoting: catsscratchfever


I refer to him/it as the creator, I hope very much to meet him one day! I have a LOT of questions!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41329003

I do as well. Some questions are answered and others it is not given us to know.
It is sad that you feel disconnected from the creator. I personally feel that same way sometimes, like for instance why are innocent children allowed to suffer and why is the food chain dependent on the killing and consumption of other plants and animals. I am often angered by the fact that deception and evil seem to rule the day, but then I realize in the face of it all we still have free will to do as we see correct. Maybe in that fact is the answer.

There are some things about our known reality that do not seem to make sense, but it will all be explained to us some day.
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2659119


I say yes and you say no.

You're going to ave to do better tat tat ,but it is good to see I have you at a loss for words.
Ordinarily a thread like this would be set upon by a pack of atheist shills with an organized campaign of disinformation, but this time it seems like they are at a loss for words and don't know how to respond.
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Can we use this to stop the resource wars? Find a replacement for oil?
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YES, it's about oppression and controlling the masses .And I think that is why the truth is being suppressed. The people who fund sceintific research also run the resource selling game, and energy is king. They write the checks demanding specific outcomes. YEP!
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Very little doubt about that.
Science should not be swayed by funding.
It then becomes something other than science.
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Can we use this to stop the resource wars? Find a replacement for oil?
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YES, it's about oppression and controlling the masses .And I think that is why the truth is being suppressed. The people who fund sceintific research also run the resource selling game, and energy is king. They write the checks demanding specific outcomes. YEP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266



Very little doubt about that.
Science should not be swayed by funding.
It then becomes something other than science.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep

I am just wondering why this Japanese fellow as went off the rails of this religious suppression of science. I hope it is the beginning of something good.
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Can we use this to stop the resource wars? Find a replacement for oil?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41215595


YES, it's about oppression and controlling the masses .And I think that is why the truth is being suppressed. The people who fund sceintific research also run the resource selling game, and energy is king. They write the checks demanding specific outcomes. YEP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266



Very little doubt about that.
Science should not be swayed by funding.
It then becomes something other than science.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep

I am just wondering why this Japanese fellow as went off the rails of this religious suppression of science. I hope it is the beginning of something good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


I'm wondering that, too. He seemed to be a stalwart.
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Seems to substantiate your post.




In the article, titled "Anapole Dark Matter," the physicists propose that dark matter, an invisible form of matter that makes up 85 percent of the all the matter in the universe, may be made out of a type of basic particle called the Majorana fermion. The particle's existence was predicted in the 1930's but has stubbornly resisted detection.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
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Makes more sense than "dark matter" lol.
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Dark matter is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard of in my life.

If your equations and simulations according to your model don't work out and your model is disproved, you're supposed to change the model, not make up shit in such a way to make your model work.

They're no longer inventing a model to explain the universe. They're inventing a universe to explain a model.

If you say 2+2=5 and discover you are wrong, you fix the equation. You don't claim the value of 2 is really 3/2 to make your flawed equation work. But that's pretty much what they're doing with dark matter to explain away the flaw.
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They don't know jack shit. When I was in college in the '80s the big thing was this super computer called the GF-11 (11 Gigaflop). Basically the gubmint gave IBM 1/2 a billion dollars to make this computer so they could run it for over a year to calculate to orbit of a sub-atomic particle (maybe a quark or bozon, whatever)

I was shocked, how could a model of a simple particle be that complicated? Obviously any retard would understand whatever the truth was it would have to be a simple model for a simple particle. Not a 1 year compute job !!! In fact all their theories violate Occum's razor, which is a theory they love to shove in your face whenever it benefits them.
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YES, it's about oppression and controlling the masses .And I think that is why the truth is being suppressed. The people who fund sceintific research also run the resource selling game, and energy is king. They write the checks demanding specific outcomes. YEP!
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicist 41840266



Very little doubt about that.
Science should not be swayed by funding.
It then becomes something other than science.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Yep

I am just wondering why this Japanese fellow as went off the rails of this religious suppression of science. I hope it is the beginning of something good.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


I'm wondering that, too. He seemed to be a stalwart.
 Quoting: Waterbug


I ave noticed much weakening of this front lately with all of the new information being released and even what appeasers to be a gradual transitioning to the electric universe theory in mainstream science. Like I said, Renaissances happen and dark ages end eventually end. Maybe there was something to that Mayan calender, we were just expecting the wrong thing, myself included.

To me what is so very revealing to me is that under ordinary circumstances a thread like this would be flooded wit mainstream sills painting me as a clown or an idiot, and they're not even attempting to debunk my theories of gravity or light at all.
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Seems to substantiate your post.




In the article, titled "Anapole Dark Matter," the physicists propose that dark matter, an invisible form of matter that makes up 85 percent of the all the matter in the universe, may be made out of a type of basic particle called the Majorana fermion. The particle's existence was predicted in the 1930's but has stubbornly resisted detection.
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
 Quoting: Waterbug


The fellow tat said they were concocting a universe to match a theory was very perceptive. They will do anything not to have to admit the textbooks need to be discarded and re written. Dark matter is just another fairy tale
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Makes more sense than "dark matter" lol.
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Dark matter is the biggest crock of shit I've ever heard of in my life.

If your equations and simulations according to your model don't work out and your model is disproved, you're supposed to change the model, not make up shit in such a way to make your model work.

They're no longer inventing a model to explain the universe. They're inventing a universe to explain a model.

If you say 2+2=5 and discover you are wrong, you fix the equation. You don't claim the value of 2 is really 3/2 to make your flawed equation work. But that's pretty much what they're doing with dark matter to explain away the flaw.
 Quoting: KonspiracyKitty


They don't know jack shit. When I was in college in the '80s the big thing was this super computer called the GF-11 (11 Gigaflop). Basically the gubmint gave IBM 1/2 a billion dollars to make this computer so they could run it for over a year to calculate to orbit of a sub-atomic particle (maybe a quark or bozon, whatever)

I was shocked, how could a model of a simple particle be that complicated? Obviously any retard would understand whatever the truth was it would have to be a simple model for a simple particle. Not a 1 year compute job !!! In fact all their theories violate Occum's razor, which is a theory they love to shove in your face whenever it benefits them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41853275


It has to be complicated so that no one can understand it.

Do you understand what I am saying?

Your point about adhering to Occams razor as been at the forefront of my methods and conclusions.
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Lack of understanding doesn't disqualify the theory.
In the real world there can be no distance 0. Both in quantum theory and relativity you would use Planck length as the smallest distance. Planck length is not = 0.
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I think it the end were are left wiht the conclusion that it is not given us to understand everything, if we did then we would be our own creator.
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Religion is what is holding back science not the other way round, religion was made to control the masses
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To me what is so very revealing to me is that under ordinary circumstances a thread like this would be flooded wit mainstream sills painting me as a clown or an idiot, and they're not even attempting to debunk my theories of gravity or light at all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


Very odd.
Maybe you should say something to the effect that the sun is shining at odd and unusual angles.
That always works.
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By giving a 0 distance this guy thinks two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Not possible. You would be limited to Planck length so that two objects are not occupying the same space at the same time.
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Lack of understanding doesn't disqualify the theory.
In the real world there can be no distance 0. Both in quantum theory and relativity you would use Planck length as the smallest distance. Planck length is not = 0.
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It does if no one understands it and there is absolutely no consensus on what it actually says, and there isn't.

here we see an example of making up crap to fit the theory by one of it's supporters, one that I might add DOES NOT understand it.. There obviously is a distance of zero. Put your fingertips together. The distance between them when they are touching is ZERO
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Religion is what is holding back science not the other way round, religion was made to control the masses
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Agreed, and science is the religion of atheism, an altar unto itself.

You see when you choose not to believe, you still have made a choice. Atheism is a religious belief system
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Michio Kaku....gimme a freakin' break. LMAO
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I kinda like him....hf
..."The soul is dyed the color of its thoughts. Think only on those things that are in line with your principles and can bear the light of day. The content of your character is your choice. Day by day, what you choose, what you think, and what you do is who you become. Your integrity is your destiny ... it is the light that guides your way."
Heraclitus
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Lack of understanding doesn't disqualify the theory.
In the real world there can be no distance 0. Both in quantum theory and relativity you would use Planck length as the smallest distance. Planck length is not = 0.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41601818


It does if no one understands it and there is absolutely no consensus on what it actually says, and there isn't.

here we see an example of making up crap to fit the theory by one of it's supporters, one that I might add DOES NOT understand it.. There obviously is a distance of zero. Put your fingertips together. The distance between them when they are touching is ZERO
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


By giving a 0 distance this guy thinks two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Not possible. You would be limited to Planck length so that two objects are not occupying the same space at the same time.
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By giving a 0 distance this guy thinks two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Not possible. You would be limited to Planck length so that two objects are not occupying the same space at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41601818


NO! he is saying ACCORDING TO ThE ThEORY the singularity of a black hole and a mass captured by it can and must eventually occupy the same place eventually, and he is right
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Religion is what is holding back science not the other way round, religion was made to control the masses
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Yes, science has become a religion and that is why it is stagnating.
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By giving a 0 distance this guy thinks two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Not possible. You would be limited to Planck length so that two objects are not occupying the same space at the same time.
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NO! he is saying ACCORDING TO ThE ThEORY the singularity of a black hole and a mass captured by it can and must eventually occupy the same place eventually, and he is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


What is after black hole singularity..?
Pure energy?
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Main streamers admit Relativity is hopelessly flawed


The reason is simple, because in order to prevent any KE calculation resulting in mass in excess of light speed, the proved formula was inexplicably altered wit 'resting mass energy" in the 'relativistic' formula so that no input of energy could ever possibly result in >C velocities!
Now I will present my theory, which is falsifiable by a nearly infinite number of experiments or observations.GOOD LUCK

GRAVITY EXPLAINED: what it REALLY is


Now, let me explain in very simple terms what the weak force gravity REALLY is.

In all matter there are electrons and protons. These particles both have an electrical or electrostatic charge.

Neutrons have no charge and they are the answer to the question of gravity, as I will explain.

In objects or masses which exert a force of gravity on other objects, there must be [and always are] neutrons present.

: This is because gravity is actually simply the electrostatic attraction between particles with a difference in charge potential, the neutrally charged neutron and the negatively charged electron exert a force inversely proportional to the distance they are from each other upon each other.

The simultaneous repelling and attracting forces of protons and electrons in two masses cancel, and this simply explains why gravity is weaker of the forces when compared to electromagnetism.
All matter with neutrons possesses a force of gravity.

ThIS IS AN INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED ELECTRIC UNIVERSE!

There is no mystery to electrostatic attraction, it is a well known and accepted reality!

The confusing part to most is that BOTh electrons and protons have a difference in potential with neutrons, and BOTh are attracted to neutrons through this weaker of the forces, electrostatics, which IS gravity!

The simpler of minds would think that if protons attract neutrons {as in the nucleus of the atom which is an undisputed fact}, then neutrons must repel electrons and cancel the force of attraction.

Why? They OBVIOUSLY don't!

Particles with differences in electrical potential always attract electrostaticly even if one is neutral, it is only when they have the same charge do they repel. Since the neutron has no charge of it's own, it has a difference in potential with both electrons and protons and is attracted to both electrostaticly, as proved by the empirical evidence in countless experiments and apparatus dependent on this fact.

Isn't that a lot simpler than making up a bunch of crap about mass warping 'space time' and creating a 'dimple' in space that objects roll down into ?. if this were true why are objects always pulled toward the center of mass no matter what direction it is in relation to orientation of the space/ time crap?? why do objects fall in a straight line towards it when they start out being stationary in relation to the other mass instead of a "curve" along this so called curvature of space time or gravity well?

Anyway, believe me or not watch the video, Einstein is debunked and admitted to be fatally flawed by the mainest of stream science, that jap dude 'yall all think is the second cumming
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Only problem is free neutrons are not attracted to either protons nor electrons.
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By giving a 0 distance this guy thinks two things can occupy the same space at the same time. Not possible. You would be limited to Planck length so that two objects are not occupying the same space at the same time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41601818


NO! he is saying ACCORDING TO ThE ThEORY the singularity of a black hole and a mass captured by it can and must eventually occupy the same place eventually, and he is right
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 514746


If the object became part of the singularity...he is measuring the distance from the singularity to what? Gravity requires two masses to act.
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What we see with the denial OF a distance oF zero is totally illogical spin BY PINHEADS DESPERATE TO KEEP ThIER FAIRY TALE VIABLE.. When two objects touch the distance between them is zero. ThEY DON'T hAVE TO OCCUPY ThE SAME SPACE!The contact occurs between the electron shells which repel preventing occupation of the same space.

The more desperate you become the more obvious it is you're wrong and don't understand even the simplest of concepts
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Main streamers admit Relativity is hopelessly flawed


The reason is simple, because in order to prevent any KE calculation resulting in mass in excess of light speed, the proved formula was inexplicably altered wit 'resting mass energy" in the 'relativistic' formula so that no input of energy could ever possibly result in >C velocities!
Now I will present my theory, which is falsifiable by a nearly infinite number of experiments or observations.GOOD LUCK

GRAVITY EXPLAINED: what it REALLY is


Now, let me explain in very simple terms what the weak force gravity REALLY is.

In all matter there are electrons and protons. These particles both have an electrical or electrostatic charge.

Neutrons have no charge and they are the answer to the question of gravity, as I will explain.

In objects or masses which exert a force of gravity on other objects, there must be [and always are] neutrons present.

: This is because gravity is actually simply the electrostatic attraction between particles with a difference in charge potential, the neutrally charged neutron and the negatively charged electron exert a force inversely proportional to the distance they are from each other upon each other.

The simultaneous repelling and attracting forces of protons and electrons in two masses cancel, and this simply explains why gravity is weaker of the forces when compared to electromagnetism.
All matter with neutrons possesses a force of gravity.

ThIS IS AN INTELLIGENTLY DESIGNED ELECTRIC UNIVERSE!

There is no mystery to electrostatic attraction, it is a well known and accepted reality!

The confusing part to most is that BOTh electrons and protons have a difference in potential with neutrons, and BOTh are attracted to neutrons through this weaker of the forces, electrostatics, which IS gravity!

The simpler of minds would think that if protons attract neutrons {as in the nucleus of the atom which is an undisputed fact}, then neutrons must repel electrons and cancel the force of attraction.

Why? They OBVIOUSLY don't!

Particles with differences in electrical potential always attract electrostaticly even if one is neutral, it is only when they have the same charge do they repel. Since the neutron has no charge of it's own, it has a difference in potential with both electrons and protons and is attracted to both electrostaticly, as proved by the empirical evidence in countless experiments and apparatus dependent on this fact.

Isn't that a lot simpler than making up a bunch of crap about mass warping 'space time' and creating a 'dimple' in space that objects roll down into ?. if this were true why are objects always pulled toward the center of mass no matter what direction it is in relation to orientation of the space/ time crap?? why do objects fall in a straight line towards it when they start out being stationary in relation to the other mass instead of a "curve" along this so called curvature of space time or gravity well?

Anyway, believe me or not watch the video, Einstein is debunked and admitted to be fatally flawed by the mainest of stream science, that jap dude 'yall all think is the second cumming
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Only problem is free neutrons are not attracted to either protons nor electrons.
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That is perhaps the most unintelligent piece of crap i have ever read, and believe me I have read some real crapolla. Free neutrons are ALWAYS eventually absorbed by matter when they make contact with matter which as neutrons in it's nucleus. This is the reason we ave multiple neutron counts in many atoms.
Normally in nature the only neutrons which are isolated and singular are in rapid motion

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