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REALTIVITY FINALLY DISQUALIFIED BY MAINSTREAM SCIENCE! BREAKING NEWS!

 
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maybe it is where dark energy is stored , the negative forces too there extreme , we understand little of this subject since it isn't in our realm of existence, but its there, they the dark beings are crossing into our world, but man is still dumbfounded as to how they get here. there is a whole other world which is governed in the dark and they are either smarter than us our have been around a lot longer.
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It's a good thread AA, *****, and I like how it is proceeding.

I found this video interesting. It may mean more to you though. I think it relates.

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The reason is simple, because in order to prevent any KE calculation resulting in mass in excess of light speed, the proved formula was inexplicably altered wit 'resting mass energy" in the 'relativistic' formula so that no input of energy could ever possibly result in >C velocities!
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LMFAO! You didn't even know how relativistic velocity worked until I taught you a few days ago. Your simple denial of it is not disproof. It's up to you to disprove relativity, which has been experimentally verified many times (unlike your bullcrap claim). Unable to debate me on your old thread, you decided to retreat and make this new thread instead. Well let me bump my old posts so that you can't hide from them.
Do your own research, everything Is stated is factual to the letter and can be confirmed by looking at a chart of cosmic radiation energy levels and their mass. Again I AM THE CITATION here. As an extremely competent though un glorified and groundbreaking physicist and astrophysicist that is independently educated, that does not in any way diminish facts.
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LMFAO! You don't even understand that annular eclipses are normal, yet you have the gall to declare yourself an "extremely competent astrophysicist?" Yes, even annular eclipses where the moon's apparent diameter is about 90% of the sun's are normal, in fact it's been happening for a long time now, you just never noticed. Your only response to this fact is to automatically declare any evidence showing it to be fake. And don't even get me started on hybrid eclipses.

You are not competent, let alone qualified to serve as "THE CITATION." You're just an arrogant, ignorant, racist who thinks he can "assume" cosmic rays beat the speed of light because Einstein was jewish.

By the way, a 10 GeV 1 atomic mass unit particle would be traveling at about 0.99558842 the speed of light (taking .93828 GeV as the resting mass-energy of a 1 atomic mass particle).

Total mass-energy of a particle = resting mass-energy/(sqrt(1-(velocity^2/speed of light^2)))

In other words:

velocity (fractional light speed) = sqrt(total mass-energy^2-resting mass-energy^2)/total mass-energy
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Look up the energy levels and masses of various types of cosmic rays and plug them into the simple formula KE=1/2M X velocity X velocity. Since you KNOW the mass and the energy level, velocity is the only unknown, THIS IS THE REFERENCE YOU FUCKING RETARD!
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LMFAO! His "reference" is the Newtonian formula for kinetic energy! Nice circular logic there IDW. Your formula is Newtonian and you're saying that's proof that relativity does not exist? You might as well as just state your argument thusly:

You deny relativity exists, therefore relativity does not exist.

IDW, he "proves" to himself that relativity does not exist by not acknowledging relativistic equations. After all, it came from a jewish person, so it must be wrong.

einstein
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Let's just leave the obscuration out of it and all the sqrt bullshit and do the simple KE calculation. In REAL science and physics you use the simplest math possible, unless of course you are INTENTIONALLY attempting to obfuscate and hide something with calculus
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LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Calculus is a conspiracy? That wasn't even calculus just now! Sqrt = a common abbreviation of "square root." And by the way, your beloved Newton INVENTED CALCULUS! IDW, the "incredibly competent and credible astrophysicist" who failed calculus.

In REAL science and physics you use formulas that accurately describe reality. There is nothing "simple" about the formulas in my moon and sun calculation spreadsheet, but it accurately describes reality. I could have made it much simpler, but only at the expense of accuracy. Newtonian equations for velocity do not accurately describe relativistic velocities close to the speed of light. Not even close.

All you're saying is that you deny relativity exists and refuse to use relativistic formulas, so therefore relativity does not exist.
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All matter with neutrons possesses a force of gravity.
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So then Jupiter, which is made up of about 90% hydrogen, has about 90% less gravity than mainstream science says? Really? Well that is easily falsifiable indeed. Once Jupiter comes back into view I can easily measure its mass based on the orbits of its moons... What do you think I'll find if I do that, eh IDW?

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Main streamers admit Relativity is hopelessly flawed

spills da beans at 5:10..K
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Big bang, black holes, dark matter and energy all Bullshit theories.

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It's a good thread AA, *****, and I like how it is proceeding.

I found this video interesting. It may mean more to you though. I think it relates.


 Quoting: ehecatl


I agree on how it is proceeding.

And your video very much so relates.

You kind of jumped ahead though.......chuckle
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Lol. Cool story bro. But gravity has nothing to do with charge. If that were the case we could fly with magnets.

Gravity is simply aether wind which is created by a pressure differenctial caused by mass. All mass is continually recreated like a waterfall from the aether.
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
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Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.
Thread: HAM Radio chatter: several incoming objects incoming from space off east coast of florida
Actually, troll, relativity IS used with the gps system. It wouldn't work without taking it into account.
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


You spend too much time in woo woo sites

"Modern advances in navigation using Earth-orbiting atomic clocks and accurate time-transfer must routinely take gravitational redshift and time-dilation effects into account. For example, the Global Positioning System (GPS) provides absolute accuracies of around 15 m (even better in its military mode) anywhere on Earth, which corresponds to 50 nanoseconds in time accuracy at all times. Yet the difference in rate between satellite and ground clocks as a result of special and general relativistic effects is a whopping 39 microseconds per day (tex2html_wrap_inline3889 from the gravitational redshift, and tex2html_wrap_inline3891 from time dilation). If these effects were not accurately accounted for, GPS would fail to function at its stated accuracy. This represents a welcome practical application of GR! (For the role of GR in GPS, see [8]; for a popular essay, see [140].)"

[link to relativity.livingreviews.org]

What the heck do you think they use to locate the satellites?
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So then Jupiter, which is made up of about 90% hydrogen, has about 90% less gravity than mainstream science says? Really? Well that is easily falsifiable indeed. Once Jupiter comes back into view I can easily measure its mass based on the orbits of its moons... What do you think I'll find if I do that, eh IDW?
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You dont have any idea of the composition of Jupiter just like you don't of the Sun. You make guesses and yo can spectrographically analyze the atmospheres, but to claim you know the composition by percentage is foolish.
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LMFAO! You didn't even know how relativistic velocity worked until I taught you a few days ago.
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WRONG. I knew the formula at age 8. I also knew it was manure

You have taught me Nothing
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Lol. Cool story bro. But gravity has nothing to do with charge. If that were the case we could fly with magnets.

Gravity is simply aether wind which is created by a pressure differenctial caused by mass. All mass is continually recreated like a waterfall from the aether.
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I don't think you understand the basic difference between electrostatic attraction and magnetic attraction

I promised to explain magnetism and I will get to it. Bear with me.
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
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Unless you can explain why, then your admonition is hollow

Probably matches your cranium from the looks of things
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
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You spend too much time in woo woo sites

"Modern advances in navigation using Earth-orbiting atomic clocks and accurate time-transfer must routinely take gravitational redshift and time-dilation effects into account. For example, the Global Positioning System (GPS) provides absolute accuracies of around 15 m (even better in its military mode) anywhere on Earth, which corresponds to 50 nanoseconds in time accuracy at all times. Yet the difference in rate between satellite and ground clocks as a result of special and general relativistic effects is a whopping 39 microseconds per day (tex2html_wrap_inline3889 from the gravitational redshift, and tex2html_wrap_inline3891 from time dilation). If these effects were not accurately accounted for, GPS would fail to function at its stated accuracy. This represents a welcome practical application of GR! (For the role of GR in GPS, see [8]; for a popular essay, see [140].)"

[link to relativity.livingreviews.org]

What the heck do you think they use to locate the satellites?
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norespect

Keep believing that they use the theory as is. I can assure you they don't. They made corrections that aren't revealed. If I wasn't posting from a phone I'd find u links. U'll have to wait til I get home. also There was a great article that came out about two years ago called something like '10 real world applications that prove relatively is wrong'. Also I have actually talked to a GPS engineer who told me the equations DO NOT WORK as is
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.

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hey fag. You realize wat you did, right?
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


You spend too much time in woo woo sites

"Modern advances in navigation using Earth-orbiting atomic clocks and accurate time-transfer must routinely take gravitational redshift and time-dilation effects into account. For example, the Global Positioning System (GPS) provides absolute accuracies of around 15 m (even better in its military mode) anywhere on Earth, which corresponds to 50 nanoseconds in time accuracy at all times. Yet the difference in rate between satellite and ground clocks as a result of special and general relativistic effects is a whopping 39 microseconds per day (tex2html_wrap_inline3889 from the gravitational redshift, and tex2html_wrap_inline3891 from time dilation). If these effects were not accurately accounted for, GPS would fail to function at its stated accuracy. This represents a welcome practical application of GR! (For the role of GR in GPS, see [8]; for a popular essay, see [140].)"

[link to relativity.livingreviews.org]

What the heck do you think they use to locate the satellites?
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norespect

Keep believing that they use the theory as is. I can assure you they don't. They made corrections that aren't revealed. If I wasn't posting from a phone I'd find u links. U'll have to wait til I get home. also There was a great article that came out about two years ago called something like '10 real world applications that prove relatively is wrong'. Also I have actually talked to a GPS engineer who told me the equations DO NOT WORK as is
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883

Oppenheimer made the same complain. Walked up to a blackboard filled with calculus based on relativity and drew a big 'X" through it, and said "we have to start over, get me some engineers in here and get rid of these mathematicians"
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.

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hey fag. You realize wat you did, right?
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Hey dipshit, what did I do?
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.

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hey fag. You realize wat you did, right?
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Phil Plait keeps acting up today
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


You spend too much time in woo woo sites

"Modern advances in navigation using Earth-orbiting atomic clocks and accurate time-transfer must routinely take gravitational redshift and time-dilation effects into account. For example, the Global Positioning System (GPS) provides absolute accuracies of around 15 m (even better in its military mode) anywhere on Earth, which corresponds to 50 nanoseconds in time accuracy at all times. Yet the difference in rate between satellite and ground clocks as a result of special and general relativistic effects is a whopping 39 microseconds per day (tex2html_wrap_inline3889 from the gravitational redshift, and tex2html_wrap_inline3891 from time dilation). If these effects were not accurately accounted for, GPS would fail to function at its stated accuracy. This represents a welcome practical application of GR! (For the role of GR in GPS, see [8]; for a popular essay, see [140].)"

[link to relativity.livingreviews.org]

What the heck do you think they use to locate the satellites?
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norespect

Keep believing that they use the theory as is. I can assure you they don't. They made corrections that aren't revealed. If I wasn't posting from a phone I'd find u links. U'll have to wait til I get home. also There was a great article that came out about two years ago called something like '10 real world applications that prove relatively is wrong'. Also I have actually talked to a GPS engineer who told me the equations DO NOT WORK as is
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Oppenheimer made the same complain. Walked up to a blackboard filled with calculus based on relativity and drew a big 'X" through it, and said "we have to start over, get me some engineers in here and get rid of these *mathematicians"
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*matemajicians
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Someone remind Phil Plait that he is simply a bad astronomer and not a physicist.

Although the OPs theory is bunk. He is right that relativety is bunk. Ask the guys who track GPS satellites if they could precisely locate their satellite's using relatively. They can't.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8028883


Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.

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hey fag. You realize wat you did, right?
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Phil Plait keeps acting up today
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Phil Plait is an enemy to society and sceince
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LMFAO! You didn't even know how relativistic velocity worked until I taught you a few days ago.
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WRONG. I knew the formula at age 8. I also knew it was manure

You have taught me Nothing
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You were clearly ignorant of it until I taught you about it. You didn't even know what resting mass-energy was. That's why you were shocked when i came up with the correct sub-luminal velocity. All you knew were the Newtonian formulas.
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we are captured light beings trapped in a dark world, understand that someone wants back where we belong , we are being held for the bennefit of something foreighn and alein.
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LMFAO! You didn't even know how relativistic velocity worked until I taught you a few days ago.
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WRONG. I knew the formula at age 8. I also knew it was manure

You have taught me Nothing
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You were clearly ignorant of it until I taught you about it. You didn't even know what resting mass-energy was. That's why you were shocked when i came up with the correct sub-luminal velocity. All you knew were the Newtonian formulas.
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lmao

I STILL don't know what 'resting mass energy " is and neither do you, because IT ODES NOT EXIST

There is NO reason to conclude that anything changes at the sub atomic level with basic physics

I knew the relativistic formula, I just reject it. I did by age ten
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Says the troll who posted this thread under another ip.

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hey fag. You realize wat you did, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669


Phil Plait keeps acting up today
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Phil Plait is an enemy to society and sceince
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I'm not Phil Plait and I'm not a fag.
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I'm not Phil Plait and I'm not a fag.
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lmao
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LMFAO! You didn't even know how relativistic velocity worked until I taught you a few days ago.
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WRONG. I knew the formula at age 8. I also knew it was manure

You have taught me Nothing
 Quoting: Anonymous Astrophysicst 9183669


You were clearly ignorant of it until I taught you about it. You didn't even know what resting mass-energy was. That's why you were shocked when i came up with the correct sub-luminal velocity. All you knew were the Newtonian formulas.
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lmao

I STILL don't know what 'resting mass energy " is and neither do you, because IT ODES NOT EXIST

There is NO reason to conclude that anything changes at the sub atomic level with basic physics

I knew the relativistic formula, I just reject it. I did by age ten
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Right, which is why you thought the formula involved calculus... You know, that math your beloved Newton developed. Dipshit liar.
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I'm not Phil Plait and I'm not a fag.
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lmao
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Damn Phil , you need to stop playing so much D&D and hit the gym. Work on those pea shooters.
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I'm not Phil Plait and I'm not a fag.
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lmao
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Damn Phil , you need to stop playing so much D&D and hit the gym. Work on those pea shooters.
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Thats not him, he looks even more disgusting in real life
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That's why you were shocked when i "came out" on the Discovery channel in my green tighty underpants
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shocked and disgusted

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