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Woman clothed in the Sun with the Moon under her feet sign October 6 2013
Revelation 12

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12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.


October 6 2013

Virgo is clothed with the sun and
The moon is under her feet and in line with mercury and saturn

womanmoonsun

Possible sign of Jonah time which is a 40 day call to repentance before destruction of that "great city of ninevah"
(united states)

Malachi 4:5-6:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

6 And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
Jonahninevah


40 means judgement

Of all the types and shadows of the Old Testament, none is as pervasive and important as the shadows revealed in the relationship between "forty," and the fulfillment of promises.

The rains (in Noah's day) fell for 40 days and nights (Genesis 7:4).
Israel ate Manna for 40 years (Exodus 16:35).
Moses was with God in the mount, 40 days and nights (Exodus 24:18).
Moses was again with God 40 days and 40 nights (Exodus 34:28).
Moses led Israel from Egypt at age 80 (2 times 40), and after 40 years in the wilderness, died at 120 (3 times 40; Deuteronomy 34:7).
The spies searched the land of Canaan for 40 days (Numbers 13:25).
Therefore, God made Israel wander for 40 years (Numbers 14:33-34).
40 stripes was the maximum whipping penalty (Deuteronomy 25:3).
God allowed the land to rest for 40 years (Judges 3:11).
God again allowed the land to rest for 40 years (Judges 5:31).
God again allowed the land to rest for 40 years (Judges 8:28).
Abdon (a judge in Israel) had 40 sons (Judges 12:14).
Israel did evil; God gave them to an enemy for 40 years (Judges 13:1).
Eli judged Israel for 40 years (1 Samuel 4:18).
Goliath presented himself to Israel for 40 days (1 Samuel 17:16).
Saul reigned for 40 years (Acts 13:21).
Ishbosheth (Saul's son) was 40 when he began reign (2 Samuel 2:10).
David reigned over Israel for 40 years (2 Samuel 5:4, 1 Kings 2:11).
The holy place of the temple was 40 cubits long (1 Kings 6:17).
40 baths (measurement) was size of lavers in Temple (1 Kings 7:38).
The sockets of silver are in groups of 40 (Exodus 26:19 & 21).
Solomon reigned same length as his father; 40 years (1 Kings 11:42).
Elijah had one meal that gave him strength 40 days (1 Kings 19:8).
Ezekiel bore the iniquity of the house of Judah for 40 days (Ezekiel 4:6).
Jehoash (Joash) reigned 40 years in Jerusalem (2 Kings 12:1).
Egypt to be laid desolate for 40 years (Ezekiel 29:11-12).
Ezekiel's (symbolic) temple is 40 cubits long (Ezekiel 41:2).
The courts in Ezekiel's temple were 40 cubits long (Ezra 46:22).
God gave Nineveh 40 days to repent (Jonah 3:4).
Jesus fasted 40 days and nights (Matthew 4:2).
Jesus was tempted 40 days (Luke 4:2, Mark 1:13).
Jesus remained on earth 40 days after resurrection (Acts 1:3).
Women are pregnant for 40 weeks (time of testing).
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There are 2 Israels one is the Jewish nation(judah and benjamin) and the other is the Christian nation(lost 10 tribes) and they join in the end and become know as Israel the firstborn son of God

The woman clothed in the sun is referring to the united states half of Israel

After America is destroyed and go into captivity they truly turn back to God. God raises up the Moses and Aaron type(2 witnesses) to lead the people..Moses splits the sea. The Jews recognize their moshiach and the moses and aaron type lead the jews to the salvation of jesus and both houses are joined again

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Matthew 17:
And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elijah truly shall first come, and restore all things.

Before God destroys the united states because they have turned from him he will send an Elijah to give a call to repentance because the Day of the Lord is a terrible day and it is the destruction of the united states:

Malachi 4:
5 Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:

You see this verse has a double meaning I will send you Elijah before the great day of the lord(one fulfillment at Jesus time)

I will send you Elijah before the dreadful day of the Lord(2nd fulfillment end-times)

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OP, what did Jesus say about John the Baptist?

Here is a clue - that he, John the Baptist, is the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah. If you will remember, Jesus' followers were asking Jesus who HE was the reincarnation of.
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OP, what did Jesus say about John the Baptist?

Here is a clue - that he, John the Baptist, is the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah. If you will remember, Jesus' followers were asking Jesus who HE was the reincarnation of.
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JESUS said truly Elijah "shall" come.......because there are 2 appearances of elijah ...one before the "great" day of the Lord and another before the "terrible"day of the Lord


Just as there are 2 appearances of Jesus

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OP, what did Jesus say about John the Baptist?

Here is a clue - that he, John the Baptist, is the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah. If you will remember, Jesus' followers were asking Jesus who HE was the reincarnation of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


JESUS said truly Elijah "shall" come.......because there are 2 appearances of elijah ...one before the "great" day of the Lord and another before the "terrible"day of the Lord


Just as there are 2 appearances of Jesus
 Quoting: waterman




Time is not linear for God.

I think the Terrible day was when evil won over Christ. The Great day is when Christ wins over evil.


Found this: [link to doctrine.org]
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OP, what did Jesus say about John the Baptist?

Here is a clue - that he, John the Baptist, is the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah. If you will remember, Jesus' followers were asking Jesus who HE was the reincarnation of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


JESUS said truly Elijah "shall" come.......because there are 2 appearances of elijah ...one before the "great" day of the Lord and another before the "terrible"day of the Lord


Just as there are 2 appearances of Jesus
 Quoting: waterman




Time is not linear for God.

I think the Terrible day was when evil won over Christ. The Great day is when Christ wins over evil.


Found this: [link to doctrine.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


Evil didnt win over Jesus....Jesus rose from the grave 3 days later and made salvation possible to those who believe and repent
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OP, what did Jesus say about John the Baptist?

Here is a clue - that he, John the Baptist, is the reincarnation of the prophet Elijah. If you will remember, Jesus' followers were asking Jesus who HE was the reincarnation of.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


JESUS said truly Elijah "shall" come.......because there are 2 appearances of elijah ...one before the "great" day of the Lord and another before the "terrible"day of the Lord


Just as there are 2 appearances of Jesus
 Quoting: waterman




Time is not linear for God.

I think the Terrible day was when evil won over Christ. The Great day is when Christ wins over evil.


Found this: [link to doctrine.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


Evil didnt win over Jesus....Jesus rose from the grave 3 days later and made salvation possible to those who believe and repent
 Quoting: waterman


I say the Terrible day is when evil ravaged Christ, you say it is the day evil gets destroyed. Ok.. Well i don't intend to be on that losing end when he returns, so not such a terrible day for me.
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...


JESUS said truly Elijah "shall" come.......because there are 2 appearances of elijah ...one before the "great" day of the Lord and another before the "terrible"day of the Lord


Just as there are 2 appearances of Jesus
 Quoting: waterman




Time is not linear for God.

I think the Terrible day was when evil won over Christ. The Great day is when Christ wins over evil.


Found this: [link to doctrine.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


Evil didnt win over Jesus....Jesus rose from the grave 3 days later and made salvation possible to those who believe and repent
 Quoting: waterman


I say the Terrible day is when evil ravaged Christ, you say it is the day evil gets destroyed. Ok.. Well i don't intend to be on that losing end when he returns, so not such a terrible day for me.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24554510


If you only plan for a "vacation" and are suprised by a " storm" when the bridegroom tarries will you keep oil in your lamp?
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The only thing I have a problem with this is that the Rev 12 sign signals the middle of the 7 year tribulation period which would mean the tribulation started 3 and half years ago as of Oct.6. on or about April 2010. I know things are bad, but not that bad yet. No way are we approaching the mid-trib point yet.

I know of someone who used Stellarium and discovered the Rev. 12 sign on September 23, 2017. You should check that date out in the Stellarium software. That might make more sense that the tribulation start date could be in March 2014.



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I believe there is something called jacobs trouble that lasts 42 months and is the period of time of the destruction and captivity of the united states as the united states is jacob. After this 42 months , then begins the 7 year tribulation.

Rev 2: 10 says we will have tribulation 10 days which represents 10 years just like it says in the midst of the week and the week represents 7 years
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The church of philadelphia is promised to be kept from the hour of tribulation that is coming on the "whole" earth...they are not promised to be kept from the hidden 42 months prior to the 7 year tribulations that is for the united states....42 months later when the world food supply is gone is when the "whole" world will be in tribulation....this is why it says the church of philadelphia kept the word of my patience because they had Jesus as Lord and Savior not just savior and it was tested during those 42 months and they are found faithful....5 wise virgins with oil

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about the time china will unveil their gold standard.
the west will be looking for a reason to go to war against them
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Another possibility is the woman of revelation 12 is EVE:

Notice satan starts as a snake in the garden but is a dragon in the end and this dragon is trying to kill the woman(Eve) but when he can't kill her he tries to kill the remnant of her seed(her children)

eve snake

1. The woman Eve clothed with the sun means clothed with Gods' righteousness

2. moon under her feet means to have dominion over those who rule over darkness(the sun is to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night)

3. The 12 stars around her head are the 12 tribes and she wears them as a diadem because she will have dominion over them

4. The man-child she is bringing forth is Adam just as Adam brought Eve forth in the beginning of the book but Eve is bringing him forth by clearing a path for Adam to come forth because when Eve is in the role of Elijah many people will believe this witnesses and will have the power to clear a path through the anointing of God.
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Revelation 12

12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
virgoeve

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This sign happens October 6 2013 and I'm thinking it may bring forth Eve in the Elijah office as it is happening in the heavens that day:

womanmoonsun

The bible starts out in genesis with a tree of life and a snake. In the very end of the bible they are still talking about the snake but now he is a dragon and the tree of life do you really think those 2 that started in the garden with the snake wont be in the end of the book. The end is still talking about the tree of life:

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
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I know it's not, but every time I read Revelation 12 I always think it is referring to the original war in heaven i.e. before the garden of eden. So odd.
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There are 2 Israels one is the Jewish nation(judah and benjamin) and the other is the Christian nation(lost 10 tribes) and they join in the end and become know as Israel the firstborn son of God

The woman clothed in the sun is referring to the united states half of Israel

:2become1:
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Well its good to see someone understands America is Israel, However, consider that Judah is now represented by Zerah, which draws out two mysteries. Zerah was tagged by the midwife to recieve the birthright in Genesis, but it went to Perez instead. In Matt 1:3 both Perez and Zerah are listed in the geneology of Christ on Joseph's side. Perez got the physical birthright to the tribe of Judah. Zerah gets the Spirtual birthright thru Christ to be represented in the last days.

Since Eve was created out of the rib of the 1st Adam, so the bride of Christ is spiritually taken out of Jesus side and was symbolically manifested in Christ being speared on the cross. Christ is the second Adam.

Israel as most think of it is actually more akin with LILUTH as she "refused to lay under her husband" > Instead she flew off in to the desert (Zecharia woman in basket who flew off to the land of Shinar {Babylon}) to built herself a house. This is the Great Harlot , Mystery Babyon the Great.

BTW the word Mystery in revelations means " hidden and secret" so we are already deep into Babylon and it has been plopped down n top of us and most can't even see it!
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Another possibility is the woman of revelation 12 is EVE:

Notice satan starts as a snake in the garden but is a dragon in the end and this dragon is trying to kill the woman(Eve) but when he can't kill her he tries to kill the remnant of her seed(her children)

:eve snake:

1. The woman Eve clothed with the sun means clothed with Gods' righteousness

2. moon under her feet means to have dominion over those who rule over darkness(the sun is to rule over the day and the moon to rule over the night)

3. The 12 stars around her head are the 12 tribes and she wears them as a diadem because she will have dominion over them

4. The man-child she is bringing forth is Adam just as Adam brought Eve forth in the beginning of the book but Eve is bringing him forth by clearing a path for Adam to come forth because when Eve is in the role of Elijah many people will believe this witnesses and will have the power to clear a path through the anointing of God.
:adameveside1:


Revelation 12

12 And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

2 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered.

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
:virgoeve:

5 And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

13 And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted the woman which brought forth the man child.

14 And to the woman were given two wings of a great eagle, that she might fly into the wilderness, into her place, where she is nourished for a time, and times, and half a time, from the face of the serpent.

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

This sign happens October 6 2013 and I'm thinking it may bring forth Eve in the Elijah office as it is happening in the heavens that day:

:womanmoonsun:

The bible starts out in genesis with a tree of life and a snake. In the very end of the bible they are still talking about the snake but now he is a dragon and the tree of life do you really think those 2 that started in the garden with the snake wont be in the end of the book. The end is still talking about the tree of life:

Revelation 22:14
Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city
 Quoting: waterman


all religion since they landed, the bad guy becomes the good guy. I believe them vikings once sailed under "dragon" banners.
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The Spring Feasts were for salvation
The Fall Feasts are for Judgement

The 7 Biblical Feast Days are called “Moadim” which means “Rehearsals”. As Rehearsals, the Feast and Festivals are a remembrance of past events,

The fall feast of Rosh Hashannah(Feast of trumpets) is also known as:

1. The day of shouting!
2. The day of the Lord!
3. The day of Trumpets!
4. The day of Judgement
5. The hidden day!
6. The "day that nobody knows"
7. The anniversary of the day Adam and Eve were created
8. The birthday of the World
and more that I won't list at this time

The Day of the Lord is a dark day: Just as Job and Jeremiah described the day of their birth(Job 3 and Jeremiah 20):




This is showing God doesn't care so much about the Rehearsals(feast days) because people have made them into nothing what he cares about is the fulfillment of the feast days and what they are a shadow of.

Isaiah 1:
7 Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers.

8 And the daughter of Zion is left as a cottage in a vineyard, as a lodge in a garden of cucumbers, as a besieged city.

9 Except the Lord of hosts had left unto us a very small remnant, we should have been as Sodom, and we should have been like unto Gomorrah.

10 Hear the word of the Lord, ye rulers of Sodom; give ear unto the law of our God, ye people of Gomorrah.

11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the Lord: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

12 When ye come to appear before me, who hath required this at your hand, to tread my courts?

13 Bring no more vain oblations; incense is an abomination unto me; the new moons and sabbaths, the calling of assemblies, I cannot away with; it is iniquity,even the solemn meeting.

14 Your new moons and your appointed feasts my soul hateth: they are a trouble unto me; I am weary to bear them.

15 And when ye spread forth your hands, I will hide mine eyes from you: yea, when ye make many prayers, I will not hear: your hands are full of blood.

16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;

17 Learn to do well; seek judgment, relieve the oppressed, judge the fatherless, plead for the widow.

18 Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

19 If ye be willing and obedient, ye shall eat the good of the land:

20 But if ye refuse and rebel, ye shall be devoured with the sword: for the mouth of the Lord hath spoken it.

21 How is the faithful city become an harlot! it was full of judgment; righteousness lodged in it; but now murderers.

22 Thy silver is become dross, thy wine mixed with water:





Amos 5:
18 Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.

19 As if a man did flee from a lion, and a bear met him; or went into the house, and leaned his hand on the wall, and a serpent bit him.

20 Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?

21 I hate, I despise your feast days, and I will not smell in your solemn assemblies.

22 Though ye offer me burnt offerings and your meat offerings, I will not accept them: neither will I regard the peace offerings of your fat beasts.

23 Take thou away from me the noise of thy songs; for I will not hear the melody of thy viols.

24 But let judgment run down as waters, and righteousness as a mighty stream.

25 Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel?

26 But ye have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun your images, the star of your god, which ye made to yourselves.

27 Therefore will I cause you to go into captivity beyond Damascus, saith the Lord, whose name is The God of hosts.


The Day of the Lord will be the fulfillment of Rosh Hashannah(Feast of trumpets). Then will come the 10 days of awe which represent 10 years of awe which are 3 and half years of jacobs trouble(destruction of the united states) and then the beginning of the 7 year tribualtion bringing the total to 10 years of awe and after the 10 years of awe is the feast of atonment(yom kippur) which is when the 2 witnesses die because they are testators of a testament and that testament is the davidic kingship and levitic preisthood on earth shadowing the Melchelzedek PRIESTHOOD AND KINGSHIP OF JESUS IN HEAVEN.

Everyone waits for the new moon in the 7th month(Rosh Hashannah) and crosses their fingers on those 2 days that Jesus is coming back and when it passes they wait for the next year

What they are not seeing is these fall feast days are only a rehearsal to the final 10 and a half years so if you have 10 and a half years total(3 and a half years jacobs trouble and then 7 years of tribulation you cannot land on yom kippur if you start on Rosh Hashannah in the 7th month it would be impossible there is a 5 or 6 month difference in the end date from the start date. Rosh Hashanah will not come on the rehearsal day it will start 40 days after the great sign in the heavens of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet

And again Revelation 2:10 showing there are 10 days of awe(tribulation) with each day equaling a year:

Revelation. 2:10:

10 Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.




So actually the first day of the destruction of the united states is considered the Day of the Lord or another name for Rosh Hashannah and then 10 and a half years later will come Yom kippur(day of atonemnt)

I believe some year when we see the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet spoken of in Revelation 12(and possibly when a comet "ison" comes by at the same time that the sign is happening) sign happening then we will see Elijah come forth and call a 40 day call to repentance to the nation that once knew God but turned away from God and after those 40 days will come the judgement or the day of shouting as Rosh Hashannah is known to be called(destruction of the united states and the furnace of affliction that makes Gods people a holy people again.

When the Day of the Lord (Rosh Hashannah) comes only one third of the nation survives:

Zechariah 13:
8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the Lord, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The Lord is my God.

This year the sign of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet is October 6 2013:

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Just as a cloud brought forth the "curse" of the flood but later a cloud brought forth the "rainbow" or the token of the covenant

Genesis 9:

12 And God said, This is the token of the covenant which I make between me and you and every living creature that is with you, for perpetual generations:

13 I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a token of a covenant between me and the earth.

14 And it shall come to pass, when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the cloud:

15 And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become a flood to destroy all flesh.

16 And the bow shall be in the cloud; and I will look upon it, that I may remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of all flesh that is upon the earth.



The sign of the woman clothed in the sun and moon at her feet is of the same nature

The woman is Eve and she was clothed with animal skins when she brought the "curse"

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but in the end she will be clothed with the "sun" or righteousness.

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The instrument(cloud flood) that brought the curse is the instrument that brings the covenant in the end

The cloud brought the curse of the flood

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but the cloud also brought forth the rainbow(of many colors)
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just as the sign of the woman with the moon at her feet and clothed in the sun is the sign of Joseph(coat of many colors type of rainbow) because the woman is messiah ben joseph(son of Joseph) and she brings forth messiah ben David(son of Judah) because Messiah ben Joseph comes before Messiah ben David.

The sign of the woman clothed with the sun will remain in the sky as the token of the covenant of the Levitical Priesthood and Davidic Kingship covenant that will be fulfilled (Gen 1:28 the blessings of Adam and Eve) in the end.
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You know...

You cannot have a Rainbow without a rain...

Sometimes for rain to come you need to pass through fire...

With or without a "certain" date, things are as they are.
Eve or another name, it doesn't even matter...

People tend to take things either way too literally, or too metaphorically, when things are working both way - 'cause everything is a replica of the same pattern on every layer...
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Re: Woman clothed in the Sun with the Moon under her feet sign October 6 2013
Clearly refers to Jesus' Mother Mary.
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Hmmm I didn't realize Mary was in the wilderness for 1260 days what an odd number of days to be in the wilderness:

Revelation 12:
6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

I also didn't realize Mary had that many seed......I knew Eve did because Eve is the Mother of creation:

Revelation 12:

17 And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.


Also didn't realize Mary had armies of people after her as the flood represents many people coming after the woman

15 And the serpent cast out of his mouth water as a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away of the flood.

16 And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened her mouth, and swallowed up the flood which the dragon cast out of his mouth.

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Notice the Yom Kippur war of 1973 began on October 6th exactly 40 years before October 6th 2013. Again we know 40 means judgement

Kippur War, Ramadan War, or October War also known as the 1973 Arab–Israeli War and the Fourth Arab–Israeli War, was a war fought by the coalition of Arab states led by Egypt and Syria against Israel from October 6 to 25, 1973.

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Notice 40 years later to the day this sign appears in the heavens: The woman clothed with the sun and the moon at her feet which Revelation 12 describes as a "GREAT WONDER" or "GREAT SIGN"


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When this sign of the woman clothed in the sun and moon at her feet happens. I believe Elijah will show up and give a 40 day call to repentance on October 6 2013:

That 40th day will be the blowing of the trumpets and the Day of the Lord which will be a dark day as described by the prophets

That 40th day will be considered "Rosh Hashanah" and the 10 days between Rosh Hashanah and Yom kippur will be fulfilled by the 10 days equaling 10 years and the day the two witnesses die will be considered Yom Kippur fulfilling those feast days.
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Scripture is like an onion and has layers these verses in Isaiah are showing the people when the day of the Lord comes the people are doing "the woman with child travailing to be delivered" actions as described in Rev. 12 but the layer right before the day of the Lord was Elijahs arrival 40 days prior to the day of the Lord as Eliajahs calls a 40 day call to repentance but also give the hope that God raises the man-child to be the deliverer after the people are truly repentant during the slavery and time of Jacobs trouble.

Elijah actually delivers the message of the man-child to come during the 40 day call to repentance so Elijah delivers the promise of the 2nd witness, (the man-child as described in Rev. 12) but also the nation is called Jacob and the man-child comes forth from the nation so we see a double fulfillment of Rev 12, because in Isaiah we see the nation being represented as a woman with child in pain.

Israel right now is DIVIDED into 2 nations one is called Israel(geographical Israel) and the other is Jacob(united states) in the end they become one again as a type of husband and wife which are considered one.


Isaiah 26:17:

Like as a woman with child, that draws near the time of her delivery, is in pain, and cries out in her pangs; so have we been in your sight, O LORD.



Isaiah 13:

6 Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.

7 Therefore shall all hands be faint, and every man's heart shall melt:

8 And they shall be afraid: pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth: they shall be amazed one at another; their faces shall be as flames.

Rev 12 sign is said to be a "Great Sign"(I believe that will kick off the last 40 days of the united states)
October 6 2013 sign of the woman clothed with the sun and the moon under her feet:

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Here are a couple encouraging verses concerning "the day of the Lord"

As we can see "the day of the Lord" is another name for "Rosh Hashanah" which I believe to be the first day of the last 10 years til the death of the two witnesses which will be the fulfillment of Yom kippur though not the traditional date as this is the real thing and not just the rehearsal that the feasts represent.

Just as if you practice a fire drill or tornado drill every year on or around the same date. When the real tornado or fire comes you will recognize it but it won't come on the rehearsal day. Same thing goes with the fall feasts they are rehearsals but will not come on the rehearsal days as most believe because rosh hashanah and yom kippur are 10 days apart but will be fulfilled with 10 years instead of 10 days.

But for the encouraging part:

When Paul speaks of "the day that comes as a thief in the night" that is an idiom of Rosh Hashanah as it is known as the hidden day or day that nobdoy knows and was a common phrase at the time to recognize that paul was talking about Rosh hashanah.

by reading thessalonians we see paul use the idiom thief in the night as Rosh Hashanah because he goes on to say "but you are not in darkness that the day of the lord should overtake you as a thief. Why will it not overtake the children of the light? Because Elijah gives the people a 40 day warning as to when the Day of the Lord is coming and Paul says "God has not appointed us to wrath on that day." That is very encouraging for those who have Jesus as Lord and Savior and not just as savior....do you see the difference? The ones who have Jesus just as savior have just a little bit of oil in their lamp. Its those 5 wise virgins that lamps are full and not just using Jesus as fire insurance that would be the church of philadelphia type to go in that rapture(and again this is just my opinion)



1 Thessalonians 5

King James Version (KJV)

5 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.

2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.

4 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.

5 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.

6 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.

7 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.

8 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.

9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,

10 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.

11 Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do
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Waterman - some scholars regard 1260 days as an equivalency (or reference) to the phrase "a time, times, and half a time" seeing as when we equate 'time' with 'year' we observe that 3.5 years is roughly 1275 days ( give or take depending on precise definitions), and that said phrase ('times') in context would be an applicable practical equality to 1260 days.

As for the woman...a great case can be made that this sign already occurred - a quick search on youtube will result in several excellent examples. Of course you have to skip the silly ones. I dont post one up simply because I do not want to preclude your own discovery of excellent vids, nor do I want any association with any particular video or viewpoint presented therein.

With regard to my personal opinion I will state only that the most compelling case for me suggests 2012 as the year of occurrence, but again this is all conjecture and should be treated as such.

I have also seen excellent cases for 2011, 2013, and 2016 presented.

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mary is incarnated in a woman right now...might have something to do with her birthday
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Well the woman clothed with the sun is Eve not Mary because Eve was promised to have dominion after the world was filled(Genesis 1:28) Adam will have the kingship(davidic) and Eve will have the priesthood(levitic) and Jesus has both kingship and priesthood(melchelzedek) in heaven
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I believe the day of the lord will come 40 days after this sign that happens on October 6 2013:

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Isaiah 2:12
For the day of the Lord of hosts shall be upon every one that is proud and lofty, and upon every one that is lifted up; and he shall be brought low:
Isaiah 2:11-13 (in Context) Isaiah 2 (Whole Chapter)Other Translations


Isaiah 13:6
Howl ye; for the day of the Lord is at hand; it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty.
Isaiah 13:5-7 (in Context) Isaiah 13 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Isaiah 13:9
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, cruel both with wrath and fierce anger, to lay the land desolate: and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it.
Isaiah 13:8-10 (in Context) Isaiah 13 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Isaiah 34:8
For it is the day of the Lord's vengeance, and the year of recompences for the controversy of Zion.
Isaiah 34:7-9 (in Context) Isaiah 34 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Jeremiah 46:10
For this is the day of the Lord God of hosts, a day of vengeance, that he may avenge him of his adversaries: and the sword shall devour, and it shall be satiate and made drunk with their blood: for the Lord God of hosts hath a sacrifice in the north country by the river Euphrates.
Jeremiah 46:9-11 (in Context) Jeremiah 46 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Lamentations 2:22
Thou hast called as in a solemn day my terrors round about, so that in the day of the Lord's anger none escaped nor remained: those that I have swaddled and brought up hath mine enemy consumed.
Lamentations 2:21-22 (in Context) Lamentations 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Ezekiel 13:5
Ye have not gone up into the gaps, neither made up the hedge for the house of Israel to stand in the battle in the day of the Lord.
Ezekiel 13:4-6 (in Context) Ezekiel 13 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Ezekiel 30:3
For the day is near, even the day of the Lord is near, a cloudy day; it shall be the time of the heathen.
Ezekiel 30:2-4 (in Context) Ezekiel 30 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Joel 1:15
Alas for the day! for the day of the Lord is at hand, and as a destruction from the Almighty shall it come.
Joel 1:14-16 (in Context) Joel 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Joel 2:1
Blow ye the trumpet in Zion, and sound an alarm in my holy mountain: let all the inhabitants of the land tremble: for the day of the Lord cometh, for it is nigh at hand;
Joel 2:1-3 (in Context) Joel 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Joel 2:11
And the Lord shall utter his voice before his army: for his camp is very great: for he is strong that executeth his word: for the day of the Lord is great and very terrible; and who can abide it?
Joel 2:10-12 (in Context) Joel 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Joel 2:31
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and terrible day of the Lord come.
Joel 2:30-32 (in Context) Joel 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Joel 3:14
Multitudes, multitudes in the valley of decision: for the day of the Lord is near in the valley of decision.
Joel 3:13-15 (in Context) Joel 3 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Amos 5:18
Woe unto you that desire the day of the Lord! to what end is it for you? the day of the Lord is darkness, and not light.
Amos 5:17-19 (in Context) Amos 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Amos 5:20
Shall not the day of the Lord be darkness, and not light? even very dark, and no brightness in it?
Amos 5:19-21 (in Context) Amos 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Obadiah 1:15
For the day of the Lord is near upon all the heathen: as thou hast done, it shall be done unto thee: thy reward shall return upon thine own head.
Obadiah 1:14-16 (in Context) Obadiah 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zephaniah 1:7
Hold thy peace at the presence of the Lord God: for the day of the Lord is at hand: for the Lord hath prepared a sacrifice, he hath bid his guests.
Zephaniah 1:6-8 (in Context) Zephaniah 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

Zephaniah 1:8
And it shall come to pass in the day of the Lord's sacrifice, that I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.
Zephaniah 1:7-9 (in Context) Zephaniah 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zephaniah 1:14
The great day of the Lord is near, it is near, and hasteth greatly, even the voice of the day of the Lord: the mighty man shall cry there bitterly.
Zephaniah 1:13-15 (in Context) Zephaniah 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zephaniah 1:18
Neither their silver nor their gold shall be able to deliver them in the day of the Lord's wrath; but the whole land shall be devoured by the fire of his jealousy: for he shall make even a speedy riddance of all them that dwell in the land.
Zephaniah 1:17-18 (in Context) Zephaniah 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zephaniah 2:2
Before the decree bring forth, before the day pass as the chaff, before the fierce anger of the Lord come upon you, before the day of the Lord's anger come upon you.
Zephaniah 2:1-3 (in Context) Zephaniah 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zephaniah 2:3
Seek ye the Lord, all ye meek of the earth, which have wrought his judgment; seek righteousness, seek meekness: it may be ye shall be hid in the day of the Lord's anger.
Zephaniah 2:2-4 (in Context) Zephaniah 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Zechariah 14:1
Behold, the day of the Lord cometh, and thy spoil shall be divided in the midst of thee.
Zechariah 14:1-3 (in Context) Zechariah 14 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


Malachi 4:5
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord:
Malachi 4:4-6 (in Context) Malachi 4 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
Acts 2:20
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:
Acts 2:19-21 (in Context) Acts 2 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


1 Corinthians 5:5
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
1 Corinthians 5:4-6 (in Context) 1 Corinthians 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


2 Corinthians 1:14
As also ye have acknowledged us in part, that we are your rejoicing, even as ye also are our's in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2 Corinthians 1:13-15 (in Context) 2 Corinthians 1 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


1 Thessalonians 5:2
For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.
1 Thessalonians 5:1-3 (in Context) 1 Thessalonians 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations


2 Peter 3:10
But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
2 Peter 3:9-11 (in Context) 2 Peter 3 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations

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November...

ISON and Sun

I Son & Sun ?

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"BEFORE" the day of the Lord there is a blood moon:

Acts 2:20
The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and notable day of the Lord come:

The "blood moon" is the unscientific term for the first full moon after the full moon closest to the autumn equinox.

In 2013, the full moon closest to the autumn equinox is September 19. Therefore, the 2013 Blood Moon is October 18.

So there is only one Blood Moon each year.

So if the day of the lord is to come in 2013 it will have to be after the blood moon that happens October 18 2013

and again if the revelation 12 sign woman clothed with the sun and moon at her feet that happens October 6 2013 and 40 days later is "the day of the lord" then it would come "after" the blood moon of October 18 2013.


Also on October 18 the same day as the Blood Moon is a penumbral lunar elclipse:

Penumbral lunar eclipses explained

Although the Moon is a dark object, it can be seen in the sky most of the time because its surface reflects the Sun's rays back to Earth. A penumbral lunar eclipse occurs when the Earth moves between the Sun and Moon but the three celestial bodies do not form a perfectly straight line. The Moon then travels through the outer part of the Earth's shadow (penumbra). This means that all of the Moon's visible surface still receives some direct sunlight - but the Earth obscures parts of the Sun, as seen from the Moon.
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There are 2 Israels one is the Jewish nation(judah and benjamin) and the other is the Christian nation(lost 10 tribes) and they join in the end and become know as Israel the firstborn son of God

The woman clothed in the sun is referring to the united states half of Israel

After America is destroyed and go into captivity they truly turn back to God. God raises up the Moses and Aaron type(2 witnesses) to lead the people..Moses splits the sea. The Jews recognize their moshiach and the moses and aaron type lead the jews to the salvation of jesus and both houses are joined again

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Dude I do believe we have too many Red Necks in America for us to go into captivity anytime soon..

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