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MAJOR DEVELOPING STORY: June 26th -- General Carter Ham To Testify About Benghazi...

 
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"Gen. Carter Ham was reportedly forced into retirement either by the Obama regime or Hillary Clinton because of his knowledge about what really happened in Benghazi. Now that may come back to bite Obama and Hillary Clinton in the ass as Carter Ham will testify on Benghazi and the lack of military response in front of Congress on June 26.

For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks, the four-star general in charge of U.S. military assets in the Africa region will testify before Congress about what happened that night."


This should get interesting.. Wouldn't be surprised if he has aneurism or heart attack in the coming days..
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Agreed. Adm Borda was getting ready to rip the shit out of the NAVAIR side of things due to "TailHook" and then "committed" suicide. How in the hell somebody as small as Borda could have pointed that shotgun at his chest is a feat unto itself.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Yea or I'm thinking Obama will bomb something in Syria to keep the attention on something else..
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hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if Ham is already compromised being allowed to testify. Who knows what obamas nsa/cia has on him, or threats issued.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
 Quoting: UTownTrash



Yea or I'm thinking Obama will bomb something in Syria to keep the attention on something else..
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That's exactly what will happen.
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hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if Ham is already compromised being allowed to testify. Who knows what obamas nsa/cia has on him, or threats issued.
 Quoting: CommonCents


Yeah valid point.. I guess we'll see what happens on the 26th..maybe..
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Agreed. Adm Borda was getting ready to rip the shit out of the NAVAIR side of things due to "TailHook" and then "committed" suicide. How in the hell somebody as small as Borda could have pointed that shotgun at his chest is a feat unto itself.
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Thank you, Tensor.
Adm Boorda supposedly shot himself with a 45 in the chest on his own doorstep. This was on Pentagon grounds. Betty Boorda, his wife, insists to this day that it could not have been suicide. He was known for writing personal letters in longhand. The suicide note was typed and unsigned.

A few days, two days I think, after the suicide Boorda was due to speak at the Mass Maritime on Cape Cod. The papers ran an odd story prior to his ......, murder. Paper headline was "Highly inappropriate for high ranking naval officer to speak at a Maritime." ????? Made it sound like military was having too much power. It was Boorda that saw that the media was the one with too much power.

Boorda saw ahead.
We must all follow Boorda.

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"Gen. Carter Ham was reportedly forced into retirement either by the Obama regime or Hillary Clinton because of his knowledge about what really happened in Benghazi. Now that may come back to bite Obama and Hillary Clinton in the ass as Carter Ham will testify on Benghazi and the lack of military response in front of Congress on June 26.

For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks, the four-star general in charge of U.S. military assets in the Africa region will testify before Congress about what happened that night."


This should get interesting.. Wouldn't be surprised if he has aneurism or heart attack in the coming days..
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General Ham was fired by one of his own subordinates. There seems to be two separate chains of command. Where does the other one go? Joint Forces Command out of NOB is the method used to legit a separate illegal command chain going 'who knows where'.

Chain of Command is the real issue here.
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How can one be fired by their subordinates? Wish I could fire my boss..
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How can one be fired by their subordinates? Wish I could fire my boss..
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JFC places jr. officers in units. The commander knows that at any time the unit comes under JFC and he will take orders from the jr. The Christian Science Monitor did a front page story on this about 5 years ago. They played down the importance of it so as not to stir up trouble.
There are TWO separate chains of command in the US Military.
There is massive inside arguing about this.

The admiral was fired the same way as General Ham of AFRICOM.

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Isn't Glenn Beck in Washington Wednesday for some "big" press conference.
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hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if Ham is already compromised being allowed to testify. Who knows what obamas nsa/cia has on him, or threats issued.
 Quoting: CommonCents


Yeah valid point.. I guess we'll see what happens on the 26th..maybe..
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just looking at the timing, why now? and how petraeus was neutralized so quickly. I hope these guys have enough courage to stand up to the govt and speak the truth.
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"Gen. Carter Ham was reportedly forced into retirement either by the Obama regime or Hillary Clinton because of his knowledge about what really happened in Benghazi. Now that may come back to bite Obama and Hillary Clinton in the ass as Carter Ham will testify on Benghazi and the lack of military response in front of Congress on June 26.

For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks, the four-star general in charge of U.S. military assets in the Africa region will testify before Congress about what happened that night."


This should get interesting.. Wouldn't be surprised if he has aneurism or heart attack in the coming days..
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Re: MAJOR DEVELOPING STORY: June 26th -- General Carter Ham To Testify About Benghazi...
The harm to the USA is already done.

A new President was elected in
November from the LIES and HIDDING of the REAL TRUTH... just as he was elected in 2008.

This is a PRODUCT of News Media Gone bad.

REPORTERS....... are now just..... Political Activist.. with the BADGE of Reporter.

There needs to be a REAL MOVEMENT about REPORTING the TRUTH...

We, the USA, has been lied to... and in order for a LIE to continue, there needs to be MASSIVE COVER UP.... and HELP from the MEDIA... and WOW... it is happening.

RIP THE USA...

NO ONE CARES.... the few who cares are SHUT DOWN...
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Between now and 26th is the 21st and 22nd of June for an Operation Blackjack type event eerily building up with Syria.
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hate to say it but I wouldn't be surprised if Ham is already compromised being allowed to testify. Who knows what obamas nsa/cia has on him, or threats issued.
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God bless him and the other generals who have been fired...maybe 8 or 9 total?

Right before the civil war Lincoln fired a bunch of generals because he knew they would refuse to fire on fellow Americans so Obama doing the same is a bad sign.
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How can one be fired by their subordinates? Wish I could fire my boss..
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Because they say he was going to disobey Obama's stand down order so Obama had him relived of duty on the spot by his subordinates.

That order can ONLY come from the President!
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The harm to the USA is already done.

A new President was elected in
November from the LIES and HIDDING of the REAL TRUTH... just as he was elected in 2008.

This is a PRODUCT of News Media Gone bad.

REPORTERS....... are now just..... Political Activist.. with the BADGE of Reporter.

There needs to be a REAL MOVEMENT about REPORTING the TRUTH...

We, the USA, has been lied to... and in order for a LIE to continue, there needs to be MASSIVE COVER UP.... and HELP from the MEDIA... and WOW... it is happening.

RIP THE USA...

NO ONE CARES.... the few who cares are SHUT DOWN...
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The media are the real criminals who need to be held accountable by the people for the lies they have told for the corrupt government and corporations.

Talking heads and news anchors are just as guilty as those who commit the treason.

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How can one be fired by their subordinates? Wish I could fire my boss..
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The Pentagon, Joints Chief, or Obama relieved Ham and ordered the second in command to take him in custody.
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Ham will be Wacko'd (Wacko)... (Christopher) Dornered...or (Vince) Fostered...
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How can one be fired by their subordinates? Wish I could fire my boss..
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The Pentagon, Joints Chief, or Obama relieved Ham and ordered the second in command to take him in custody.
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This is the smoking gun. Who relieved him of command for trying to disobey orders and send support to Bengazzi?

He has the authority to give orders contradictory to a plan. That's why we have Generals.

He's a 4 star. Secretary of Defense, Vice President, or President would be necessary to relieve him of command. Unless it was mutiny where his junior officers decided his orders were in conflict with the UCMJ or unlawfal. I think that there was a call for the junior officers to take command, and there's only three people that have that authority.

This implicates one of those people having direct knowledge, and being involved tactically in the event.

No denying this one!
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God bless him and the other generals who have been fired...maybe 8 or 9 total?

Right before the civil war Lincoln fired a bunch of generals because he knew they would refuse to fire on fellow Americans so Obama doing the same is a bad sign.
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Bad comparison.
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[link to redflagnews.com]

"Gen. Carter Ham was reportedly forced into retirement either by the Obama regime or Hillary Clinton because of his knowledge about what really happened in Benghazi. Now that may come back to bite Obama and Hillary Clinton in the ass as Carter Ham will testify on Benghazi and the lack of military response in front of Congress on June 26.

For the first time since the Sept. 11, 2012 Benghazi attacks, the four-star general in charge of U.S. military assets in the Africa region will testify before Congress about what happened that night."


This should get interesting.. Wouldn't be surprised if he has aneurism or heart attack in the coming days..
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I doubt anything will come of this, seems that those who allowed four people to die are above the law.

I just hope he is reinstated if he was unfairly dismissed.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Its about time, hope he makes it to next Wednesday.
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Yea or I'm thinking Obama will bomb something in Syria to keep the attention on something else..
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That's exactly what will happen.
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These guys are playing for all the marbles now, hard to imagine they will let Obama and his admin go down just because some general decides to tell the truth.

Ham could have spoken out long before the election - why didn't he!??

If he really has the smoking gun, he would surely have spoken out before, because you would think this issue is far more important than whatever dirt they have on him.
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It's closed to the public. the truth won't come out one way or the other.
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