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LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange

 
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This is like a corporation coming out and saying "trust us, we can't show you evidence for security reasons, but we turned a profit this quarter, so continue to invest in us."

Exact same thing.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
14:54 GMT: Of the more than 50 potential terrorist attacks thwarted by the NSA, over 50 involved overseas targets. Only 10 were plotted to occur within the US, and one involved a plan to bomb the New York Stock Exchange.

[link to rt.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


So they messed up the best thing that might had ever happen to US .....

Every time wall street gets slammed gas & food go down...

Why not preventive nuke it ? NSA got some K40 nukes they can provide to the FBI made up terror cells ..

then blame it on frustrated Syrian revels .... slaphimohno OPPS! secrecy went off the Clift again ....

Read wiki leaks (all is in there)
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I have no reason to not believe that terror attacks have been covertly intercepted. Have always assumed this as remarkably few have happened post 9/11, its not for lack of enemies who would try.

The issue here is the need for trustworthy oversight. The NSA is doing the job it was given. But what congress, Bush and Obama have neglected is transparently independent over sight. The original intent of 1970s FISA was to prevent misuse of intelligence by the likes of J. Edgar Hoover.

Protecting liberty is two pronged. Our government must protect us from foreign threats, but at the same time congress and the president must resist attempts to turn this country into a police state. They've completely fallen down on this job and it needs to change.

Hopefully we don't over react to these leaks and shutdown important operations. Radical Islam is real and they do want us dead. Never forget that.
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Damn, too bad the plot was disrupted.
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Am I the only one here that has the question that because these are secret spy programs what happened to the suspects? I guess this means we're officially disappearing people. Have they been thrown in Gitmo, jailed, tried in courts?
 Quoting: Ddraig


Ahhhh..

actually, if they have been spying on their own people then it would be very safe to assume that they have been intimately aware of so many hundreds of thousands of crimes before they actually became crimes.

Therefore, if they didnt act with all that knowledge, wouldnt they be guilty of "aiding and abbeting' all those crimes, when they could have prevented all of them?

Theyd have all the evidence that theyd need to prevent AND convict before any crime was committed.

Hows the logic?
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The NSA can say the STOPPED A COW FROM JUMPING OVER THE MOON, that doesn't prove anything.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
Government surveillance programs have helped stop more than 50 “potential terrorist events” since the Sept. 11 attacks, the director of the National Security Agency told Congress on Tuesday.

The director, Gen. Keith Alexander, told the House Intelligence Committee that he would discuss two of those plots later Tuesday. He said that he would provide classified details of all of them to the committee Wednesday.

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]
 Quoting: DoorBert


More than 50 potential terror events, which would imply more than 50 suspects?

Can they even show one of these in custody?

I call lies, lies, damage control, lies and more lies.
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This sounds like a really elitist lie from the NSA. So they can stop a terraris attack on Wall St, which your average American could give two shits about, but they can't stop the alleged terraris attack on the Boston Marathon? We can see where their alleged priorities lie....protecting the rich.
 Quoting: mehitable 1524722


It is questionable if they really want to stop terrorist attacks at all.

I mean, every time there's an attack, they get more power and more money.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
Recently, a couple of NSA guys were rehashing their involvement in "The Dark Knight Rises" movie theatre shooting last summer and one of the bright guys said,

"Hey, I couln't see too clearly because I was holding that exit door open for you, but didn't that 'Bane' guy in the movie take over the stock exchange?"

"Oh, yeah. You're right. Hard for me to see because of that fucking red wig, but you're right.

"Let's tell the boss and maybe they can say we stopped a bombing at the exchange to get some heat off our ass."

"I see a promotion coming, big guy."
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
I have no reason to not believe that terror attacks have been covertly intercepted. Have always assumed this as remarkably few have happened post 9/11, its not for lack of enemies who would try.

The issue here is the need for trustworthy oversight. The NSA is doing the job it was given. But what congress, Bush and Obama have neglected is transparently independent over sight. The original intent of 1970s FISA was to prevent misuse of intelligence by the likes of J. Edgar Hoover.

Protecting liberty is two pronged. Our government must protect us from foreign threats, but at the same time congress and the president must resist attempts to turn this country into a police state. They've completely fallen down on this job and it needs to change.

Hopefully we don't over react to these leaks and shutdown important operations. Radical Islam is real and they do want us dead. Never forget that.
 Quoting: Fred 1081195


Hopefully we don't over react to these leaks and shutdown important operations. Radical Islam is real and they do want us dead. Never forget that.

I might be wrong FRED, but perhaps these people are just offended by a foreign state interferring in what is not their business meddling in, and in their sovereign lands, and apart from that another consideration is that for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction, both in physics AND human behavoir.

Might be worth trying to have some independant and unbiased thoughts on some of these matters before you preach poorly conceived opinions based pretty much on a very biased diet of locally grown spin suffering severely from tunnel vision.

Has your country supported torture recently.

Has your country purchased illegal ammunition that can only be used on your own sovereign soil...hollowpoint ammunition is banned in the theater of war by the Geneva conventions.

Therefore all those munitions are for use in YOUR country, why is this perceived to be necessary provisioning?

Is your country attempting to usurp your own constitutions second amendment, no matter what excuse is used, the only way a constitutional ruling can be changed is by referendum and the vote must pass the litmus test of above the 75% affermitive or the proposed change fails, such are the rules of democracy.

And unlike your presedential election processes a referendum vote has to be offered to each and every citizen of voting age.

It is independant of any and all other influences, no party politics, it is each and every citizens personal vote!

Just a thought.
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Sad thing is, people will see that as a legitimate justification for its existence.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
Did the NSA happen to mention who was behind this alleged plot to blow up the NYSE?
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Bill O'Reilly put it in the best perspective I have heard yet. He posed the question: If this program is so effective, why didn't it stop the Boston Bombers? They were plastered on social media and had history on the radar....
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I think they made up the story to justify its agenda.
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How can anybody believe this horseshit? I want my Republic back.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
They must have been monitoring FBI communications in order to stop these plots.
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LOL!!

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yep.

Let me guess. Jack Bauer was there to thwart the terrorists...

Damn it Chloe!!!!

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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
but not the Boston Marathon
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Can we have a count of how many of these "thwarted attacks" were those FBI bullshit setups? You know the "find some angry guy with a low IQ, plan an attack with him then arrest him for planning it" stuff.
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
The Dark Knight Rises! Yeah, we saw that same movie as well.
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BULLSHIT.

The truth is here: [link to www.washingtonsblog.com]
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Yeah and Obuma likes the Middle Class.....
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LMFAO them cunts would say anything to justify there crimes they obviously have no shame
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
Now MSM ABC says the claim is utter BS - proven by court document.

Bloody fascists need to give up or try harder :P Like the native Americans.
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Yet they couldn't stop the Boston Marathon bombings, even with prior warnings from Russia...
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He said that he would provide classified details of all of them to the committee Wednesday.
 Quoting: DoorBert

I could care less about the "classified details" of some manufactured BS. I'd rather see the classified details of the JFK assassination, 9/11, Oklahoma, The Wall Street bailout, Elite corporate tax evaders, The housing crash loans to unqualified people....etc....etc....etc..
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Protect the money exchange, forget about the little kids in the school.
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BS-CAST - I'd pay money for gems like that !!!! nice !!
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Re: LIVE BS-CAST: NSA says surveillance programs helped disrupt a plot to blow up the New York Stock Exchange
the real reason why NSA spies
on the entire world.

The program allows the NSA to pinpoint
assets in any given location in the world.

Data collected allows the NSA to profile
individuals who may be used in the field
as assets for the NWO agenda.

example:

if a Muslim in Afghanistan is against
the Taliban and he says this on his phone
many times, then a profile is created
for him to see if he can be used as an
asset to fight the Taliban. Then contact
is made.

if you are an Iranian nuclear scientist
who is disgruntled with the regime, then
the NSA or Mil Intel may make contact
with them to see if they want to act
on their anger.

the NSA is recruiting assets for terrorism,
not fighting terrorism.

it is a tool for terrorism.
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the real reason why NSA spies
on the entire world.

The program allows the NSA to pinpoint
assets in any given location in the world.

Data collected allows the NSA to profile
individuals who may be used in the field
as assets for the NWO agenda.

example:

if a Muslim in Afghanistan is against
the Taliban and he says this on his phone
many times, then a profile is created
for him to see if he can be used as an
asset to fight the Taliban. Then contact
is made.

if you are an Iranian nuclear scientist
who is disgruntled with the regime, then
the NSA or Mil Intel may make contact
with them to see if they want to act
on their anger.

the NSA is recruiting assets for terrorism,
not fighting terrorism.

it is a tool for terrorism.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41979142


let's say for instance that the NWO
is having problems with a dictator
in Venezuela. He has blocked imports
and has frozen US Money in his country
and is selling cheap oil outside of
the NWO agenda.

the NSA searches it's database for calls
recorded within 100 miles of that location.
A list of names is produced who is against
Chavez. Then the CIA recruits those individuals
by making contact and supporting them with
funding and tools to complete the mission
of getting rid of Chavez.

And the whole coup of the dictator started
from listening to phone calls.





GLP