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sun moon earth
so simple test question for those with intuition

if the moon is in resonance lock down with the earth in such a way that we always see the same side of the moon

why should be any different with the sun and the earth?
what if the earth and sun are in resonance lock down
and we always see the same side of the sun

then, how would we know what lies behind the dark side of the sun?

should we believe strangers that look nice and say that all is well?

is it any different with how our dear parents teach us not to accept candies from 'well-intended' strangers? :)
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Re: sun moon earth
wha'
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Re: sun moon earth
The simple fact is that the earth and sun are in seemingly free rotational orbit. I know from studying the sun almost every day, it spins.
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Re: sun moon earth
The simple fact is that the earth and sun are in seemingly free rotational orbit. I know from studying the sun almost every day, it spins.
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how did you figured out that it spins?

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Re: sun moon earth
The simple fact is that the earth and sun are in seemingly free rotational orbit. I know from studying the sun almost every day, it spins.
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how did you figured out that it spins?
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We can see the sun spin. Sun spots rotate around the surface.
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Re: sun moon earth
Earth has greater angular momentum due to having greater mass than the moon. Furthermore, due to the earth's distance from the sun, the solar tidal force is less than half the magnitude of the moon's tidal force upon the earth. Earth's rotation is slowing gradually, primarily due to lunar tidal acceleration, not the solar tidal force (therefore the equilibrium point is a rotational rate closer to once per month than once per year). As a result the moon converts our angular momentum into orbital momentum, causing it to slowly increase its orbital radius. These forces are very gradual and because of our greater angular momentum we are not yet tidally locked to the moon and won't be for billions of years.
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Re: sun moon earth
Earth has greater angular momentum due to having greater mass than the moon. Furthermore, due to the earth's distance from the sun, the solar tidal force is less than half the magnitude of the moon's tidal force upon the earth. Earth's rotation is slowing gradually, primarily due to lunar tidal acceleration, not the solar tidal force (therefore the equilibrium point is a rotational rate closer to once per month than once per year). As a result the moon converts our angular momentum into orbital momentum, causing it to slowly increase its orbital radius. These forces are very gradual and because of our greater angular momentum we are not yet tidally locked to the moon and won't be for billions of years.
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astro may i ask you what is your education background?
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Re: sun moon earth
Earth has greater angular momentum due to having greater mass than the moon. Furthermore, due to the earth's distance from the sun, the solar tidal force is less than half the magnitude of the moon's tidal force upon the earth. Earth's rotation is slowing gradually, primarily due to lunar tidal acceleration, not the solar tidal force (therefore the equilibrium point is a rotational rate closer to once per month than once per year). As a result the moon converts our angular momentum into orbital momentum, causing it to slowly increase its orbital radius. These forces are very gradual and because of our greater angular momentum we are not yet tidally locked to the moon and won't be for billions of years.
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astro may i ask you what is your education background?
 Quoting: andreidita


PhD in a scientific field. Astronomy is my hobby and a passion of mine.
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Re: sun moon earth
Earth has greater angular momentum due to having greater mass than the moon. Furthermore, due to the earth's distance from the sun, the solar tidal force is less than half the magnitude of the moon's tidal force upon the earth. Earth's rotation is slowing gradually, primarily due to lunar tidal acceleration, not the solar tidal force (therefore the equilibrium point is a rotational rate closer to once per month than once per year). As a result the moon converts our angular momentum into orbital momentum, causing it to slowly increase its orbital radius. These forces are very gradual and because of our greater angular momentum we are not yet tidally locked to the moon and won't be for billions of years.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


astro may i ask you what is your education background?
 Quoting: andreidita


PhD in a scientific field. Astronomy is my hobby and a passion of mine.
 Quoting: Dr. Astro


scientific like what? i am asking because i would like to triangulate better your mind to get the most out of the communication with you. for it is tiresome sometimes to speak only with undergrads.

i have degrees in high order logics, specialized in epistemic logics plus political sciences, economics, sociology, analytic philosophy and chemistry

so i get quite loose between all kinds of mental paradigms

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