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We can never know the truth and all belief is false

 
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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So then...isn't the belief that all beliefs are false
also false?
 Quoting: Northman


You are starting to get it.

The mind will consume itself if examined. Take the time to examine the mind and you will soon experience Truth, which is infinite Peace and Freedom. Your True nature.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40673969


Right on! But "All belief is true" also happens to be true. For us to say that isn't would mean that we know, which we can't.
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06/18/2013 10:52 PM
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Truth according to me is always true. You are the truth, so don't sell yourself short. Hard to explain 'being.' It requires less ego and contradicts the brain's way of making all the details and comparisons relevant. It churns like hot coals upon your head, and relishes in its own design suspiciously minded for survival. Is it a tree or a tree with a leopard waiting to pounce? All it takes is a suggestion to move mountains, or minds.

There are different kinds of truth too. Not all truth is in a word or phrase. Some truth is in a sun gaze. Truth is looking into the light is bad for your eyes. Look away and you'll see more. Read between the lines.
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I gave up every belief bestowed upon me by the physical, and received the real truth from the spiritual. Unfortunately it cannot be reveled to one another via physical communication. Each has to find it for themselves, and most give up long before their death.
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Belief is what you make of it.
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You sound like a product of your generation, OP.

A Post modernistic generation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


What generation am I? I have come to some conclusions I like to share with others. What I write is nothing special. Pretty sure people contemplated these things thousands of years ago.

"All belief is false" is something that people do well to remember. It's more dangerous to believe a false belief is true, than the other way around. Better yet is to focus on knowledge instead of belief.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25386369


Better yet, let go of knowledge. Knowledge will only lead one astray from Truth.

The mind is the problem. It is a grand tool and it has a purpose. But it is not the be all end all. It only leads one in endless circles. Usually for lifetimes.

Let go of the mind and know Truth.

It is too simple for the mind to understand. The mind is not the way. Meditation is. See through your own beliefs and they will dissolve. Every one of them. One by one.

What you are is infinite and beyond anything the mind can conjure up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40673969


I did meditate for 17 years on and off. That is probably part of the reason why I come up with these "answers".

When I advanced in meditation I did feel that what I am is something else than my body or personality. Even if maybe I shouldn't tell this I felt that I was God. That I was far above anything human. I don't know if it was a egoless
state. Don't think it was since I remember thinking afterwards that I was that. That what I experienced was beyond words. I could write a word like "god" and that is the closest I can come to describing it.

Yet I now know through my studies that what I experienced was only part of the way. Even if it was beyond words it was below the truly divine. It was the state Jesus was in before he died and was resurrected. It's a stage symbolized by the sun. I don't meditate anymore but I still feel more than an affection for the sun and also the sky. I also feel closer to nature. I love nature, the trees, the sky and wild animals.
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Truth according to me is always true. You are the truth, so don't sell yourself short. Hard to explain 'being.' It requires less ego and contradicts the brain's way of making all the details and comparisons relevant. It churns like hot coals upon your head, and relishes in its own design suspiciously minded for survival. Is it a tree or a tree with a leopard waiting to pounce? All it takes is a suggestion to move mountains, or minds.

There are different kinds of truth too. Not all truth is in a word or phrase. Some truth is in a sun gaze. Truth is looking into the light is bad for your eyes. Look away and you'll see more. Read between the lines.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2217540


You now what you are talking about. Knowledge is in the dark. Knowledge is needed an the price to squire it is high. Knowledge in itself has no value however. You need to understand what you know and how to apply it. Correct application of knowledge is wisdom.
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I am resting in silence being still. That is when I hear truth speak inside me with no help from anyone's beliefs or others opinions in books.

This is the place I can only trust in. This is where I can see and read the book of life in me.

Last Edited by New Heart on 06/18/2013 11:30 PM
Imagine yourself as a garden. Nurture and protect it:)
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06/18/2013 11:32 PM

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So then...isn't the belief that all beliefs are false
also false?
 Quoting: Northman


I don't know anything about this or anything else but I believe you are correct.
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I am resting in silence being still. That is when I hear truth speak inside me with no help from anyone's beliefs or others opinions in books.

This is the place I can only trust in. This is where I can see and read the book of life in me.
 Quoting: NewHeart



Yes, only when all is quite can we hear God speak to us. In one moment of clarity we see the truth. All it takes is silence.
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06/18/2013 11:53 PM
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op do u smoke weed? im feeling wat u say man
always question things
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yes ..i think silence and meditation are really powerful
everythn else is a distraction pretty much ... i like to be near ocean and sit and relax...mayb ocean is distraction too lol
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A beLIEf is the absence of knowledge.
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