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Tree doom on the US Atlantic?

 
Fret Wiz (OP)
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
[link to www.shadetreefarm.com]

Here it is.

Website for Virginia talks about characteristic cicada damage and shows pictures of it.

it is referred to as "flagging" and is brown spots at ends of branches.


This may be what is going on.

A list of trees particularly prone to this cicada damage did include hickories.

Hope this helps ya, FW.

At least in identifying if this is the cause of the problem.
 Quoting: beeches


It does, thanks! I just spent some time outside, looking more closely at the damaged branches. Apparently, female cicadas lay their eggs IN the branches; this causes the branch to die outside of the affected area. This definitely coincides with what I am seeing. Most affected here seems to be the Chestnut Oaks. Odd that they lay them above, but they end up below. Thanks again, beeches!
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


you're very welcome.rose

Chestnut Oaks must be beautiful trees. We have very little land compared to what I might like, and I am running out of space.

2 sassafras saplings where they don't belong.
2 weeping cherry saplings where they don't belong.

that is in the white pine border.

Oh well, I will find them a home.

well let no one say GLP is not grand!
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 Quoting: beeches


Goofy Thum

I do love the Chestnut Oaks, but the acorns they produce biannually are just HUGE (and dangerous)!

I've tried as well to plant things that don't necessarily belong here. Even my Leland Cyprus' have failed. I have several that are barely hanging on, Sweet Gum, Ginkgo, Japanese Elm, Fringe Tree and Dawn's Redwood. They're hanging on, but not really thriving. Redbuds, though not native, are doing well. I have a ton of Mountain Laurel here, I really need to plant some Rhododendrons as well!

There was a Cherry here when I bought it, but it got decimated every year by caterpillars & I finally cut it down :-(

My Mother owns a place about 20mi from here that all the arborists swoon over. I get most of my saplings (and inspiration) from her.

Okay, I guess I'll abandon this thread, but peace to you all and don't forget the trees!
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
Rock dust is needed
Fret Wiz (OP)
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Rock dust is needed
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Explain further, please. I'm on a mountainside, and have no lack of rocks!
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
Glad you figured it out. I've lost a cottonwood and a crabapple already this summer. No cicadas here yet, but an abundance of dead trees.
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Cessium...
 Quoting: Madmacs


That is exactly what I fear. It almost seems too blatant to say out loud.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


How widespread is this damage in your area?
 Quoting: beeches


rows and rows of pines...huge needle drops, some trees "naked" now!
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
South coast MA... It's the same. All our trees are dead and dying. Anything more than shrubbery is sick.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 39691522


take a ride down route 3 to the cape over the Sagamore Bridge... from about 3 exits before bridge heading onto Cape...Yikes!!

Not from lack of rain, I can assure you of that...

the big "C"

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I'm leaning towards beeches' cicada assessment; do those of you with similar issues concur that you've had an experience like this?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Cessium....
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
Typically when ends of branches are dying there is a possible root disease. Pictures would help. I will post a bunch more information for specific species later when I get home from work if thread is still around. Forestry degree and Im a certified arborist.
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
I'm leaning towards beeches' cicada assessment; do those of you with similar issues concur that you've had an experience like this?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


easy study here...

[link to www.youtube.com]

The Red Forest...
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Typically when ends of branches are dying there is a possible root disease. Pictures would help. I will post a bunch more information for specific species later when I get home from work if thread is still around. Forestry degree and Im a certified arborist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15326303


Thanks, AC, your expertise would be very appreciated! Here's a few pics:

[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]


I'm leaning towards beeches' cicada assessment; do those of you with similar issues concur that you've had an experience like this?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


easy study here...

[link to www.youtube.com]

The Red Forest...
 Quoting: Madmacs


Good video, pretty frightening stuff. Not a lot we can do if that's the case.
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Typically when ends of branches are dying there is a possible root disease. Pictures would help. I will post a bunch more information for specific species later when I get home from work if thread is still around. Forestry degree and Im a certified arborist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15326303


Thanks, AC, your expertise would be very appreciated! Here's a few pics:

[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]
[link to i.imgur.com]


I'm leaning towards beeches' cicada assessment; do those of you with similar issues concur that you've had an experience like this?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


easy study here...

[link to www.youtube.com]

The Red Forest...
 Quoting: Madmacs


Good video, pretty frightening stuff. Not a lot we can do if that's the case.
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


What beautiful lacy branches against the sky in those pictures, Fret Wiz, I hope the trees are improving or at least not getting worse. Tell us what they are.
if mighty oaks are the king of the forest, beeches are surely its queen.
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
bump
if mighty oaks are the king of the forest, beeches are surely its queen.
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
I'm in a mature wooded area in VA. I've noticed lately (and especially this morning, as I got up early to smoke some pork shoulder & have some extra time to gaze) that my mature trees (mainly differing varieties of Oak, Poplar and Hickory) all seem to share one thing in common - the outermost branches all have bunches of leaves that have died and turned brown.

While this sort of thing might be considered normal any other year, this year, I'm seeing it in a rare uniformity and predictability. I can literally look up any tree (these are 60-100' tall) and find this phenomenon. Is anyone else seeing the same thing?

Care to harbor a guess as to what is happening?
 Quoting: Fret Wiz


Wow. Crazy I see this now. I'm in upstate, NY and I'm an arborist (tree climber). I noticed this as well. Very weird
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Same here in NC piedmont, 1 county south of of VA.
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Re: Tree doom on the US Atlantic?
And this did not look like a root problem at all, or iron deficiencies, etc...this was happening on trees everywhere, and in all different spots of the tree, but always the tips; I am also in heavy wooded areas. I was truly baffled
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Trees generally handle droughts fairly well. We had some hot summers and not much rain. The outermost parts of many trees have dead leaves due to heat and drought. Pine trees really suffer in high heat. Not all trees have deep tap roots. The ones that do generally handle heat waves rather well. Very tall trees may have more problems in droughts bringing water from deep in the ground to the tops of the tree; most trees have a height limit for that reason.
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