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Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?

 
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Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
Love & Light...
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
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You cannot be sure when Barry Soetero was born. We have no record of his birth.
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Good point...I didn't think of that.
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Is the date being disputed or the location of birth?
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From everything I am reading...the birthday is the same.
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Yes Putin will kick the false lion's ass in war!
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
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You cannot be sure when Barry Soetero was born. We have no record of his birth.
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but all indications are that date is the same, just location is in question.
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
 Quoting: imjustsayin


You cannot be sure when Barry Soetero was born. We have no record of his birth.
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but all indications are that date is the same, just location is in question.
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Since neither you nor I have ever seen his true, original B/C, you have NO indication that the date of birth or place of birth match ANYTHING.

With Barry...ALL IS IN QUESTION
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
In 1899, Hertzog predicted the birth of the Anti-Christ as being February 5, 1962, in Jerusalem, which at that time was still part of Syria. February 5, 1962 features a very rare alignment of planets that happens only once every few hundred years, when the Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn would align in Aquarius. Uranus was in Leo, Neptune was in Scorpio and Pluto was in Virgo, making the alignment even more severe, but none of those planets had been discovered in 1899.

JEANNE DIXON... great American Prophetess and Seer, also used Hetzog’s predictions, [whether she knew it or not] and gave some very specific information about the AC. Saying that he would be born on February 5, 1962, and she saw him "dressed as a Prince of Egypt".

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
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Remember Sylvia Brown and the Cleveland kidnapped girl.Told her mother she was dead..Thats about how accurate all those predictions are.
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Obama doesn't seem like a leo . He is very whiney and thin skinned . Alot of leo's I know can roll with the punchesrumble .
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
 Quoting: imjustsayin


Obama has ego issues and Putin has "balance" issues.
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In 1899, Hertzog predicted the birth of the Anti-Christ as being February 5, 1962, in Jerusalem, which at that time was still part of Syria. February 5, 1962 features a very rare alignment of planets that happens only once every few hundred years, when the Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn would align in Aquarius. Uranus was in Leo, Neptune was in Scorpio and Pluto was in Virgo, making the alignment even more severe, but none of those planets had been discovered in 1899.

JEANNE DIXON... great American Prophetess and Seer, also used Hetzog’s predictions, [whether she knew it or not] and gave some very specific information about the AC. Saying that he would be born on February 5, 1962, and she saw him "dressed as a Prince of Egypt".

[link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net]
 Quoting: Open Your Eyes


Remember Sylvia Brown and the Cleveland kidnapped girl.Told her mother she was dead..Thats about how accurate all those predictions are.
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Jean Dixon was handled and Sylvia Browne is just a complete fraud.
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
I am not a astrologist but it is worth mentioning that Vladmir Putin met with David Rockefeller several years ago and refused to allow Rockefeller to establish entities in Russia. Putin is a enemy of the Illuminati, and he must have some dirt on them because he continues to exist.

Obama is the Illuminati's boy, and he has advanced their agenda more then even former President George W. Bush.

Putin and Obama are both corrupt and evil, yet they are positive and negative forces in the world we must live in.
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One must ask the question, who is the most evil in a room, David Rockefeller or Vladmir Putin?

Obama is just a errand boy.
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
 Quoting: imjustsayin


You cannot be sure when Barry Soetero was born. We have no record of his birth.
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^^^ THIS^^^
If our ancestors could see us now they would have picked their own damn cotton.
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Well libra is the sign of balance. Are you taking Putin and Obamas charts from the Western or Vedic system? The Vedic is more accurate, the Vedic system was the first one taught, developed in India and then the knowledge was lost, the Greeks then to a certain extent salvaged some form of astrology.

You would need to look at the moon signs for emotions of the two the sun sign for the job and "soul want/need" of the two and the planets in the houses and signs and any conjunctions for the overall picture.

You can't just say Obama is a leo therefore he is XYZ because peoples personalities are more complex than that. The positions of Jupiter, mars, venus, saturn, mercury, rahu, kethu are very important.

I would actually like to see the nakshatra of each to find out more detailed info.


I started delving into vedic a while ago to disprove it, found out to the contrary however! It does take a while to wrap your head around things but very insightful.


Must look up their info...
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Obama doesn't seem like a leo . He is very whiney and thin skinned . Alot of leo's I know can roll with the punchesrumble .
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I would put Obama down as a Cancer sun sign.
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Ok the quickest way to see what a person is about afer doing a vedic birth chart calculation is to see what nakshatra they were born under. (a nakshatra is one of the 27 constellations in the zodiac. each star sign has 3 nakshatras, ever wondered why some sun sign people are the same but they behave differently? this is the reason, they were born under different nakshatras.)

oh if you want to look up your nakshatra go onto here
[link to www.galacticcenter.org]

and just put in your info and it will give you a free chart (look at the one on the right hand side) you will see your nakshatra listed under your sun sign etc.

So! Putin's nakshatra is krittika and here's what is said about it by krs astrology (he has youtube videos, really great astrologer and no bs)

Krittika is a very powerful nakshatra because it shows the rising of Sun God at the vernal equinox. The fiery sun gives the ability to burn away negative and dark side of a person's life and bring brightens. This is why never lie to a Krittika person because your lie will be caught and brunt by their ability to know the truth. Sun, which represents royal kingdom, government, public life and creativity gives these native the ability to shine in public life for their work and effort for the others. Sun being a planet of creativity gives them dynamic flair for cinema, acting, entertainment and even a painter. The symbol of Krittika is a knife, which means cutting through darkness and bringing in light, but in mundane sense this also means that someone who is skilled in the art of weaponry, after all we are still under the sign of Aries for the first pada. These folks make some of the best chefs, martial artist and weapon manufactures.

We also need to be aware that this nakshatra also falls under the sign of Taurus, which is ruled by Venus. This is why the artistic side of these people is brightened by Sun and Venus both. When people are born in Krittika nakshtra under the zodiac sign of Taurus, they usually make very good singers, designers, make up artist, actors and painters, where on Aries side they are more about physical art, and working with weapons; where martial art comes into play. These folks are very independent, confident and exert a certain amount of ego, especially in the pada falling under Aries sign. Krittika people born in Aries will be far more macho and manly vs. ones born under Taurus zodiac sign, and even though they are in the same nakshtra, they will be defined by two different aspects of creativity.

One thing that can happen with such people is they become power hungry, need to take charge and be authoritative under the degrees falling in Aries. This can lead to over blown ego which overwhelms everyone else like the brightens of sun hides all the other starts who might bigger and brighter than the sun. But thinking Sun is the biggest planet in the sky is only an illusion, so such people need to keep their egos in check.


here's a link to his chart

[link to www.astrosage.com]

Does that sound accurate to you?

p.s. his pada (each nakshatra is again broken up into 4 padas or lengths) is 4th pada,


Krittika nakshatra pada 4- People born under pada 4 are very intelligent, educated and love to learn about the religions text of their faith. They make great spiritual guidance, leaders and they love being the service of others. They love giving away without expecting much back, which in some cases can bring less than what they deserve. They will take on work which might pay them less than their worth. This is why such people should not settle for less, because their worth is far more than they expect of themselves.


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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
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Putin is an ice queen who is all head. Obama is heart and his biggest weakness is vanity/cowardice. Ironically it is Leos who are the most cowardly, despite their valiant avatar. Give me a Virgo, or a ruthless Scorpio, any day, those people will fuck you up, no questions asked.
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Re: Obama is a Leo & Putin is a Libra...Any Astrologers want to give their insights?
Okay people, Obamas vedic chart is here

[link to www.astrosage.com]

haha! I was right, he is a cancer sun sign, one word, emotional.

so his nakshatra is rohini and here is some info on it from [link to www.astrologykrs.com]

Rohini Nakshatra is about beauty, wealth and luxury. Since this nakshatra is ruled by the Moon. It represents emotions, however, such emotions are not emotional, but actually emotions of happiness and living in bliss. These folks like to be a part of elite, rich and wealthy group and they want to associate with people who can increase their status and wealth. This is also a very creative nakshatra as it represents singers, actors and dancers. However, one thing to know about Rohini is that they get angry pretty quickly and when they do, they can kill someone. The rule moon, which represents the mother, shows great wealth and fame through the mother and a great relationship with the mother. The was married into quite a rich and wealthy family. These people cut through things and move forward, this make them very bold and symbolized by chariot.

This nakshartra is about creation, whether creating art, kids, or a new invention. They are very balanced and calm in the mind. They are quite beautiful, especially females in this nakshtra. But, one of their qualities is to work less and make more. They do not want to work 9-5 like rest of the world, because they know in the time they would waste on tedious work, they can enjoy life, enjoy luxury or simply enjoy any kind of art But, this doesn't mean they are lazy, they actually are the most hard working people who know the value of money and security. This is why they make some of the best businessmen, because they are very smooth and calm in their approach, unless of course you don't go by what they are telling you then they will challenge you. Hardly anyone can stop them at achieving their goals, they will go through any hurdles and reach their destination, unless Moon is in a planetary war.


obamas under pada one and he's the info on it
Rohini nakshatra pada 1- A person born under the pada 1 of Rohini nakshtra will be very calm and gentle like the moon, respect others, great in business dealing due to their smooth talk. They very romantic and passionate in love & relationships and usually are the most beautiful of all Rohini pada. These people are born in wealthy families and they, themselves are able to do quite well for themselves in self earned wealth.

however this gives info based on Obama being born in Honolulu. Ahem.

so what do you guys think? Have you seen which nakshatra you are born under (look at the moons nakshatra) and does this make sense to you?
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
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Putin is an ice queen who is all head. Obama is heart and his biggest weakness is vanity/cowardice. Ironically it is Leos who are the most cowardly, despite their valiant avatar. Give me a Virgo, or a ruthless Scorpio, any day, those people will fuck you up, no questions asked.
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I do like the Scorpios myself! Putin is a virgo in Vedic astrology!
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Interesting that Obama has a lot of planets in the 8th house, the house of death, rebirth, accidents and Putin has a lot of planets in the 12th house, the house of hidden things, hidden talents.
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
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Putin is an ice queen who is all head. Obama is heart and his biggest weakness is vanity/cowardice. Ironically it is Leos who are the most cowardly, despite their valiant avatar. Give me a Virgo, or a ruthless Scorpio, any day, those people will fuck you up, no questions asked.
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I do like the Scorpios myself! Putin is a virgo in Vedic astrology!
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Putin always seemed very Scorpionic to me. He is boiling below the surface but cool and calculated at the top. Of the signs I have known, it is the earth signs + Scorpio that seem most capable of being ruthless and getting their way in the end. Virgo surprises because it seems so charming and innocent.. until it isn't. Virgo dark side seems like all of the characters in the movie "Sin City" , especially the character played by Elijah Wood, Kevin, and his counterpart Marv played by Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke is a Virgo, Elijah Wood has very Virgo-like traits. Barack Obama is definitely a Leo- he has very Leonine tendencies and characteristics. If Putin is Virgo in Vedic astrology, he fits my perception of the darker manifestation of Virgo. Virgo as a quiet leader with a spine of steel. I'm a fan of Putin's :).
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If Obama truly is a Leo he is a weak one.

Strong Leos don't need to lie or manipulate to get people to follow them.

They are natural leader types - meaning weak or strong, others will follow regardless. The strength of character shows in the manner by which they lead.
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If Obama truly is a Leo he is a weak one.

Strong Leos don't need to lie or manipulate to get people to follow them.

They are natural leader types - meaning weak or strong, others will follow regardless. The strength of character shows in the manner by which they lead.
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I must have known only weak Leos, because it seems that sadly this is the case. The Leo is either a narcissistic showman with lots of talk and little substance (Obama) or is a coward with private delusions of grandeur that are exerted only upon those he thinks he can control. Most effective use of Leo seems to be Leo rising, Leo Saturn or Leo moon + ascendant.
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If Obama truly is a Leo he is a weak one.

Strong Leos don't need to lie or manipulate to get people to follow them.

They are natural leader types - meaning weak or strong, others will follow regardless. The strength of character shows in the manner by which they lead.
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I must have known only weak Leos, because it seems that sadly this is the case. The Leo is either a narcissistic showman with lots of talk and little substance (Obama) or is a coward with private delusions of grandeur that are exerted only upon those he thinks he can control. Most effective use of Leo seems to be Leo rising, Leo Saturn or Leo moon + ascendant.
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I have Jupiter in 9th house Leo. Has it's ups and downs, that's for sure, but TBH I think it's a good use for it - but I am, ofc partial :P
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If Obama truly is a Leo he is a weak one.

Strong Leos don't need to lie or manipulate to get people to follow them.

They are natural leader types - meaning weak or strong, others will follow regardless. The strength of character shows in the manner by which they lead.
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I must have known only weak Leos, because it seems that sadly this is the case. The Leo is either a narcissistic showman with lots of talk and little substance (Obama) or is a coward with private delusions of grandeur that are exerted only upon those he thinks he can control. Most effective use of Leo seems to be Leo rising, Leo Saturn or Leo moon + ascendant.
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I have Jupiter in 9th house Leo. Has it's ups and downs, that's for sure, but TBH I think it's a good use for it - but I am, ofc partial :P
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Interesting. Do you find yourself in the role of teacher/mentor often? Do you find yourself gaining through teaching or higher education? Jupiter is the planet of luck and is the natural ruler of the 9th house.

I have a stellium in leo on the ascendant/12th house. I know about Leo and seem to attract/be attracted to Leo types although i am not one of them :).

Obama is certainly Leo, yet he can't survive politically without his entourage, like most Leos :). On the other hand, if you put a badly-beaten Putin in the middle of the Siberian hinterlands naked with a rope and an ax handle, guarantee he will kick ass all the way back to Moscow.
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
 Quoting: imjustsayin


You cannot be sure when Barry Soetero was born. We have no record of his birth.
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What if Obama was born on Feb 5 1962 as a Pisces with a Leo Rising Sign
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Wouldn't that be Aquarius?
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Obama is a Leo and Putin is a Libra.
From what I know about the two, Leo's need attention, and Libra's can sit on a fence foreveeerrr.
Are there any astrologers who can shed some insight on the planetary dynamics of these two men?
 Quoting: imjustsayin


Putin is an ice queen who is all head. Obama is heart and his biggest weakness is vanity/cowardice. Ironically it is Leos who are the most cowardly, despite their valiant avatar. Give me a Virgo, or a ruthless Scorpio, any day, those people will fuck you up, no questions asked.
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I do like the Scorpios myself! Putin is a virgo in Vedic astrology!
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Putin always seemed very Scorpionic to me. He is boiling below the surface but cool and calculated at the top. Of the signs I have known, it is the earth signs + Scorpio that seem most capable of being ruthless and getting their way in the end. Virgo surprises because it seems so charming and innocent.. until it isn't. Virgo dark side seems like all of the characters in the movie "Sin City" , especially the character played by Elijah Wood, Kevin, and his counterpart Marv played by Mickey Rourke. Mickey Rourke is a Virgo, Elijah Wood has very Virgo-like traits. Barack Obama is definitely a Leo- he has very Leonine tendencies and characteristics. If Putin is Virgo in Vedic astrology, he fits my perception of the darker manifestation of Virgo. Virgo as a quiet leader with a spine of steel. I'm a fan of Putin's :).
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Well Putin is an INTJ personality, he is a strategist. INTJ do not have many emotions, they are rational and use logic. Virgo are pandentic, like to have everything perfect or theres trouble. Funnily enough I am also an INTJ and can vouch for this type of what people think as "ruthless" person, when in fact I am logical and get the job done. No need for pussy footing around situations if you have an important job to do.

Do you not think Obama is too "snarky" to be a leo? He seems to me like a bitchy version of a Leo, bad at open confrontation, more likely to do behind the scenes deals. Two faced, thats what I mean! lol

I'm a fan of Putin too, I'm a fan off anyone doing an efficient job to be honest! :)

Whats your sun, moon and ascendant sign? Do you know? I find the subject really interesting!

I'm Sag sun, Libra moon, Gemini ascendant!
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If Obama truly is a Leo he is a weak one.

Strong Leos don't need to lie or manipulate to get people to follow them.

They are natural leader types - meaning weak or strong, others will follow regardless. The strength of character shows in the manner by which they lead.
 Quoting: Deaf Cat


What's your sun, moon and ascendant sign?

I NEVER get to talk about astrology, It's so annoying! I love this topic!!

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