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Two Chemtrail Jets Almost Collide With a Fed-Ex Jet. Chemtrail Jets Have Transponders Turned Off!

 
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the video is nothing remarkable . thats what standard separation - 1000'- looks like . the second plane was 2000' above . sorrrrryyyyyyy .
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or you on crack? those were commercial size planes, flying towards one another as the 3 coming towards the one filming had their transponders off and invisible to radar, causing the one filming to take evasive actions. and their proximity was no where close to legal. look, you people are according to military and constitutional laws committing treason against the peoples of the United States of America. Whatever you have been told, is incorrect, because obviously you have not been in a war situation. no rat hole you people work from will conceal you from the people. You will be found and tried eventually. Your funding will soon come under view and your names revealed. You will be put under military courts for trail and prosecution. And you have managed to incite millions of Americans -- to look for you because we know what you are. Understand, you are not a secret anymore, far from it. You are an unapproved rogue operation trying to cause division in this country, and others. if other boards that start with 4 have your addresses pinned, and names, how hard do you think it is for law enforcement not on the take to get it? any one of them can launch a investigation if they so happen to stumble upon your activities. it's that simple. Presidents are subject to laws and committees, so are you people. you people will be thrown under the bus quicker than you imagine. you have no idea that you are scapegoats meant to agitate and cause a coup in this country, which makes you criminals to highest order.
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seek professional help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


if i were you, I would seek spiritual help and a ticket to a alternate universe. this post is completely rational while you reek of psychosis and a deviant personality that frankly should not be walking the streets. and please tell me you do not have access to children.
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Actually, I would hope that a ranting, raving halfwitted chemtard like you is never allowed around children.


We've already heard that some of your fellow idiots are passing on their paranoia and ignorance to their children and grandchildren, which is truly, truly disgusting.
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If the, so called tankers, were filming the Fedex plane it would also have trails behind it. I spent 22 years flying at those altitudes and nothing to see here. But have fun anyway.
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Spending 22 years flying at that attitude give you no more authority to comment on exhaust components than does my 50 years of driving qualify me to comment on truck and auto exhaust.
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I spent 15 years flying fixed wing at all altitudes in the military, never did my contrails last more than 15 seconds, and they certainly didn't expand to cover the sky in a milky haze. Chemtrails are not contrails, end of story.
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Then you are lying about being a pilot, or you weren't very observant.
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HahahahahahahahHahahahahahahahaha! We think its the other way around.
Let me ask you a question for real Taco Boy, why is it that you never comment on any other thread but these? Every post made on the subject and Shilly McShillster shows up like clockwork. Why is that? Do you have nothing better to do?
Can people not have the freedom to discuss something without your constant barrage of insults? It's ok to disagree with people, especially when you feel as strongly as you do. But I can't help but think you have a different motive............it's not like everyone doesn't know your thoughts by now. We get it, you don't believe and you don't agree. Why go through the lengths that you have just to come off as a useless tool?
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the video is nothing remarkable . thats what standard separation - 1000'- looks like . the second plane was 2000' above . sorrrrryyyyyyy .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41730345


or you on crack? those were commercial size planes, flying towards one another as the 3 coming towards the one filming had their transponders off and invisible to radar, causing the one filming to take evasive actions. and their proximity was no where close to legal. look, you people are according to military and constitutional laws committing treason against the peoples of the United States of America. Whatever you have been told, is incorrect, because obviously you have not been in a war situation. no rat hole you people work from will conceal you from the people. You will be found and tried eventually. Your funding will soon come under view and your names revealed. You will be put under military courts for trail and prosecution. And you have managed to incite millions of Americans -- to look for you because we know what you are. Understand, you are not a secret anymore, far from it. You are an unapproved rogue operation trying to cause division in this country, and others. if other boards that start with 4 have your addresses pinned, and names, how hard do you think it is for law enforcement not on the take to get it? any one of them can launch a investigation if they so happen to stumble upon your activities. it's that simple. Presidents are subject to laws and committees, so are you people. you people will be thrown under the bus quicker than you imagine. you have no idea that you are scapegoats meant to agitate and cause a coup in this country, which makes you criminals to highest order.
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seek professional help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


You should do the same. You seriously have undiagnosed Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
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See flying to close will get you at the very least an investigation. I told you that isnt normal. [link to hosted.ap.org]
"You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett

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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128





Busted cocksucker, it was the pliots who made the statments, are the pilots lying too , fucking clown ..
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
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Busted cocksucker, it was the pliots who made the statments, are the pilots lying too , fucking clown ..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19815163


Pilots didn't say shit about the transponders being off, dumbass.

The guy who put the video together said that was true in his "conclusion".

Stupid chemtard....
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Are you sure they DID have their transponders off? Are you sure this audio goes with this video? Are you sure they are too close? They don't look it to me!

I'm sorry, the video is just propaganda from the chemtard side! there isn't even any evidence that these trails persisted!

Calling these planes "tankers" is just plain old stupid BULLSHIT.

I'm sorry, this video proves "chemtrails" just as well as finding natural elements in nature...

It doesn't!

And just because the chemtard who made the video came to some conclusions...doesn't mean his conclusions are correct!

I'm sorry, but this video is not the smoking gun that chemtards believe it is. In fact, because chemtards accept it as such, it's more proof of their ignorance!
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
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the video is nothing remarkable . thats what standard separation - 1000'- looks like . the second plane was 2000' above . sorrrrryyyyyyy .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41730345


or you on crack? those were commercial size planes, flying towards one another as the 3 coming towards the one filming had their transponders off and invisible to radar, causing the one filming to take evasive actions. and their proximity was no where close to legal. look, you people are according to military and constitutional laws committing treason against the peoples of the United States of America. Whatever you have been told, is incorrect, because obviously you have not been in a war situation. no rat hole you people work from will conceal you from the people. You will be found and tried eventually. Your funding will soon come under view and your names revealed. You will be put under military courts for trail and prosecution. And you have managed to incite millions of Americans -- to look for you because we know what you are. Understand, you are not a secret anymore, far from it. You are an unapproved rogue operation trying to cause division in this country, and others. if other boards that start with 4 have your addresses pinned, and names, how hard do you think it is for law enforcement not on the take to get it? any one of them can launch a investigation if they so happen to stumble upon your activities. it's that simple. Presidents are subject to laws and committees, so are you people. you people will be thrown under the bus quicker than you imagine. you have no idea that you are scapegoats meant to agitate and cause a coup in this country, which makes you criminals to highest order.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12584146


seek professional help
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


You should do the same. You seriously have undiagnosed Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242



I have ADMITTED to being obsessive-compulsive about this subject.

YES, the truth about aviation related things is VERY important to me.

That doesn't mean I'm wrong about my statements about the trails in the sky. And it certainly doesn't mean the chemtards are right!

Again, there is no evidence that the trails are anything more than contrails.

Please provide ANYTHING that proves I'm wrong. So far, you chemtards have had a PERFECT record of failure in your attempts to do so!
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Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


No, says anyone with even basic knowledge of the subject. The "tower" has NOTHING to do with air traffic at altitude.

Sorry!

The "tower" is all about arrivals and departures...
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


A pilot may be requested to squawk a given code by the air traffic controller via the radio, using a phrase such as "Cessna 123AB, squawk 0363". The pilot then selects the 0363 code on their transponder and the track on the radar screen of the air traffic controller will become correctly associated with their identity.
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Wow! What the hell are those planes doing? There are going to be collisions if this is happening all the time. And not just with freight planes - but with passenger jets. Another reason never to fly.
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The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


No, says anyone with even basic knowledge of the subject. The "tower" has NOTHING to do with air traffic at altitude.

Sorry!

The "tower" is all about arrivals and departures...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Wrong again.
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And Noble, you still can't explain why all these planes were so close and had their transponders off. Care to enlighten us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?


Wow! What the hell are those planes doing? There are going to be collisions if this is happening all the time. And not just with freight planes - but with passenger jets. Another reason never to fly.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082299


Specific altitude ranges for specific cardinal directions. A flight going East to West will never be in a West to East altitude. Which is why this event is perplexing, 3 aircraft in the wrong place at the wrong time, flown by the Airforce.

To be in the same altitude means to travel in the same compass direction.
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Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1478128


The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
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The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


No, says anyone with even basic knowledge of the subject. The "tower" has NOTHING to do with air traffic at altitude.

Sorry!

The "tower" is all about arrivals and departures...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Wrong:
"The primary method of controlling the immediate airport environment is visual observation from the aerodrome control tower (TWR). The TWR is a tall, windowed structure located on the airport grounds. Aerodrome or Tower controllers are responsible for the separation and efficient movement of aircraft and vehicles operating on the taxiways and runways of the airport itself, and aircraft in the air near the airport, generally 5 to 10 nautical miles (9 to 18 km) depending on the airport procedures."

5 to 10 nautical miles is hardly arrivals and departures. "All aircraft in the air near the airport"
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The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


Says the douche
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The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


But they WERE in the wrong place, 3 of them!!! That is irrefutable!

Which, if a transponder was active, would warn and procure immediate action, which would prevent this video ever being shot.

Look buddy, something is not right there. Logical deduction proves this.
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"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465

Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2562242


No, says anyone with even basic knowledge of the subject. The "tower" has NOTHING to do with air traffic at altitude.

Sorry!

The "tower" is all about arrivals and departures...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1211465


Wrong:
"The primary method of controlling the immediate airport environment is visual observation from the aerodrome control tower (TWR). The TWR is a tall, windowed structure located on the airport grounds. Aerodrome or Tower controllers are responsible for the separation and efficient movement of aircraft and vehicles operating on the taxiways and runways of the airport itself, and aircraft in the air near the airport, generally 5 to 10 nautical miles (9 to 18 km) depending on the airport procedures."

5 to 10 nautical miles is hardly arrivals and departures. "All aircraft in the air near the airport"
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You don't fly much, do you?

5-10 nautical miles is most the immediate airport environment.
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"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
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But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?
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Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
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But they WERE in the wrong place, 3 of them!!! That is irrefutable!

Which, if a transponder was active, would warn and procure immediate action, which would prevent this video ever being shot.

Look buddy, something is not right there. Logical deduction proves this.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Actually, there isn't irrefutable proof of this, apart from the chemtard liar who put the video together saying it's so.
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Apart from the "conclusion" of the video maker, there is no indication that the transponders were off.

Considering that the video was made by a chemtard, I seriously question the veracity of this statement, since chemtards are known liars.
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The video was made by the pilot douche. And you know you are wrong. If transponders were on, someone was taking a coffee break in the tower. No way these planes come that close in commercial flight paths with them turned on. All your aviation training tells you better. Nice try
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"in the tower.."

Fucking moron.

You have no understanding of ATC.

ZERO!
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A pilot may be requested to squawk a given code by the air traffic controller via the radio, using a phrase such as "Cessna 123AB, squawk 0363". The pilot then selects the 0363 code on their transponder and the track on the radar screen of the air traffic controller will become correctly associated with their identity.
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Is that "the tower"?!
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But I DO KNOW in the event of BOTH transponders not working, the aircraft are ordered to a known safe altitude until all impact risks are ruled out (non RVSM flight seperation). ONLY then can the aircraft return to normal flight schedule to land.

No flight is allowed to take off with out a transponder. If the transponder fails, there are contingency actions put in place IMMEDIATELY.

If a safe route isn't found, traffic gets altered and the offending aircraft is forced to land ASAP.


Having 3 aircraft with out either transponder is bad enough (beyond failure coincidence, they were turned off), ignoring safety procedure is direct proof of someone ordering this action.



This video is NOT about chemtrails, it is about the Airforce flying under cover, at commercial airliner risk. The operation must be important.

Did anything explode sky high 12 hours after this encounter?
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


But they WERE in the wrong place, 3 of them!!! That is irrefutable!

Which, if a transponder was active, would warn and procure immediate action, which would prevent this video ever being shot.

Look buddy, something is not right there. Logical deduction proves this.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Actually, there isn't irrefutable proof of this, apart from the chemtard liar who put the video together saying it's so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


Planes do not fly head on towards each other with out some great error. Especially 3 of them.

If the systems set in place were operational, this video would NEVER have been shot.

Like I said, logical deduction is enough proof even for court.
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Hahahahahahahahahahaha says the douche.
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No, says anyone with even basic knowledge of the subject. The "tower" has NOTHING to do with air traffic at altitude.

Sorry!

The "tower" is all about arrivals and departures...
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Wrong:
"The primary method of controlling the immediate airport environment is visual observation from the aerodrome control tower (TWR). The TWR is a tall, windowed structure located on the airport grounds. Aerodrome or Tower controllers are responsible for the separation and efficient movement of aircraft and vehicles operating on the taxiways and runways of the airport itself, and aircraft in the air near the airport, generally 5 to 10 nautical miles (9 to 18 km) depending on the airport procedures."

5 to 10 nautical miles is hardly arrivals and departures. "All aircraft in the air near the airport"
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How does what you wrote prove me "wrong"?!


Fucking chemtards...proving their complete ignorance about aviation every second of every day....
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5 to 10 nautical miles IS arrivals and departures!
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Yet there is zero proof that the transponders were off, only some chemtard liar putting a video together and saying that it's true.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


But they WERE in the wrong place, 3 of them!!! That is irrefutable!

Which, if a transponder was active, would warn and procure immediate action, which would prevent this video ever being shot.

Look buddy, something is not right there. Logical deduction proves this.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--


Actually, there isn't irrefutable proof of this, apart from the chemtard liar who put the video together saying it's so.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42082075


Planes do not fly head on towards each other with out some great error. Especially 3 of them.

If the systems set in place were operational, this video would NEVER have been shot.

Like I said, logical deduction is enough proof even for court.
 Quoting: --Voltaic--



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Wow!! Nice job Silver Surfer, you got the shills (even the mod shill) worked up into a frothy lather with this irrefutable piece of evidence.
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those who claim to be pilots and say that flying in close proximity like that is fine and okay please leave your names so I can report you to the FAA. Your lies are bordering on criminal too. In fact, being a member of Infragard, Charlotte Chapter, I will be making a post on out website about this activity for others to look into. Hope you have your shit together, because you are inciting a lot of bad emotion towards the people and govt of the United States with this sort of instigation, clearing aiming to cause division and hate.
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You admit to being a shill for the FBI, and you are calling out debunkers?

That's just too precious, Snookums!

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