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I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit

 
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I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Slows whole computer down and runs like 5 background processes
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Slows whole computer down and runs like 5 background processes
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background processes = NSA hooks
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
OK version 11 is not as bad as previous ones
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Why not just use Spotify? Better value, imo...even if you pay for the premium service.
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Thread title ought to just read, "I really hate all Apple software..."

Bonjour
MobileDeviceService
AutoUpdateService
etc
etc
etc

So fucking unnecessary. Jobs is worshiped like some kind of fucking entrepreneurial guru, but all he was ever able to do was capitalize on aesthetic trends and pervasive intrusion upon users' freedom to choose what type of software to use and manage the hardware purchased from Apple.

It's not my fault the sheeple have no fucking clue how easy music device management used to be before Apple came around.

I think it's fucking bullshit that an iPod touch cannot download free apps without having a credit card on file and associated to the iTunes account the device is tied to.

It's fucking bullshit there's so much proprietary data mangling in Apple DBs that open source coders have lost all interest in cracking the DB system to allow users to manage their music libraries with software that works the way simple software should like Win-fucking-amp.

It's fucking bullshit a company is allowed to partake in fascist free market manipulation by blackmailing retailers with the threat of no authorization to sell its products without a minimum pricing agreement.

Take your brand worth and shove it up your cold, rotting ass you worthless fascist scum, Steve Jobs.
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Thread title ought to just read, "I really hate all Apple software..."

Bonjour
MobileDeviceService
AutoUpdateService
etc
etc
etc

So fucking unnecessary. Jobs is worshiped like some kind of fucking entrepreneurial guru, but all he was ever able to do was capitalize on aesthetic trends and pervasive intrusion upon users' freedom to choose what type of software to use and manage the hardware purchased from Apple.

It's not my fault the sheeple have no fucking clue how easy music device management used to be before Apple came around.

I think it's fucking bullshit that an iPod touch cannot download free apps without having a credit card on file and associated to the iTunes account the device is tied to.

It's fucking bullshit there's so much proprietary data mangling in Apple DBs that open source coders have lost all interest in cracking the DB system to allow users to manage their music libraries with software that works the way simple software should like Win-fucking-amp.

It's fucking bullshit a company is allowed to partake in fascist free market manipulation by blackmailing retailers with the threat of no authorization to sell its products without a minimum pricing agreement.

Take your brand worth and shove it up your cold, rotting ass you worthless fascist scum, Steve Jobs.
 Quoting: Inspector Wadjet


While some of this is correct not all of it is correct. Most of the itunes processed are needed for itunes to work correctly. Bonjour is apples zero wireless configuration program. It works with apple devices and other supported devices to send wireless services to different devices. It allows one to sync wirelessly from their PC or MAC with their device. Printers use this service as well to send out wireless print data to MAC PC's. It supposedly works better than wifi.

The mobile device support are the actual drivers and software that allows you to connect your device to your computer. Without it the device is NEVER detected by the computer and you cannot use it on a computer.

The auto update service is bullshit, i would certainly agree with that. I hate auto update programs in general

Any apple device can download free apps and songs without entering a credit card, however it has to be done a special way. It's kinda bullshit, i will agree, but it still can be done. The easiest way to explain it is all you have to do is download a free app BEFORE creating an apple ID. Once you try to download it, it will prompt you to either create an apple ID or enter an existing apple ID. At this point you would then choose to create an apple ID. Enter all your personal info and at the payment information screen, just beside all of the credit card options, there will a button that says NONE. Just choose that at viola. You got yourself a free apple ID. I have one myself and had to go through this same method to get one. If you have already created an apple ID then as long as there is no pending transactions or remaining balance then you can change the payment info to remove the credit card by simply going to the payment information section of your apple ID info and change it to the big NONE button. That eliminates the credit card from your apple ID.

As i said its bullshit that you have to go through all of that to begin with but it can be done.

The rest of the stuff you have said is spot on. Well said. Im not trying to defend apple. I hate them too. Over-priced, over-hyped POS's. I can get the same PC, same specs, same equipment for like 1/3 the price of a MAC. But I did feel the need to clarify a few of your points.
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
Thread title ought to just read, "I really hate all Apple software..."

Bonjour
MobileDeviceService
AutoUpdateService
etc
etc
etc

So fucking unnecessary. Jobs is worshiped like some kind of fucking entrepreneurial guru, but all he was ever able to do was capitalize on aesthetic trends and pervasive intrusion upon users' freedom to choose what type of software to use and manage the hardware purchased from Apple.

It's not my fault the sheeple have no fucking clue how easy music device management used to be before Apple came around.

I think it's fucking bullshit that an iPod touch cannot download free apps without having a credit card on file and associated to the iTunes account the device is tied to.

It's fucking bullshit there's so much proprietary data mangling in Apple DBs that open source coders have lost all interest in cracking the DB system to allow users to manage their music libraries with software that works the way simple software should like Win-fucking-amp.

It's fucking bullshit a company is allowed to partake in fascist free market manipulation by blackmailing retailers with the threat of no authorization to sell its products without a minimum pricing agreement.

Take your brand worth and shove it up your cold, rotting ass you worthless fascist scum, Steve Jobs.
 Quoting: Inspector Wadjet


While some of this is correct not all of it is correct. Most of the itunes processed are needed for itunes to work correctly. Bonjour is apples zero wireless configuration program. It works with apple devices and other supported devices to send wireless services to different devices. It allows one to sync wirelessly from their PC or MAC with their device. Printers use this service as well to send out wireless print data to MAC PC's. It supposedly works better than wifi.

The mobile device support are the actual drivers and software that allows you to connect your device to your computer. Without it the device is NEVER detected by the computer and you cannot use it on a computer.

The auto update service is bullshit, i would certainly agree with that. I hate auto update programs in general

Any apple device can download free apps and songs without entering a credit card, however it has to be done a special way. It's kinda bullshit, i will agree, but it still can be done. The easiest way to explain it is all you have to do is download a free app BEFORE creating an apple ID. Once you try to download it, it will prompt you to either create an apple ID or enter an existing apple ID. At this point you would then choose to create an apple ID. Enter all your personal info and at the payment information screen, just beside all of the credit card options, there will a button that says NONE. Just choose that at viola. You got yourself a free apple ID. I have one myself and had to go through this same method to get one. If you have already created an apple ID then as long as there is no pending transactions or remaining balance then you can change the payment info to remove the credit card by simply going to the payment information section of your apple ID info and change it to the big NONE button. That eliminates the credit card from your apple ID.

As i said its bullshit that you have to go through all of that to begin with but it can be done.

The rest of the stuff you have said is spot on. Well said. Im not trying to defend apple. I hate them too. Over-priced, over-hyped POS's. I can get the same PC, same specs, same equipment for like 1/3 the price of a MAC. But I did feel the need to clarify a few of your points.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1949591


It is absolutely NOT necessary for any of those things to be run as system services and not be able to be configured otherwise.

There is no reason to not load on-the-fly all of the capabilities iTunes needs for device management, except for nefarious integration into peoples' systems at levels they are not aware of.

iTunes knows more about most peoples' computers than they do themselves.
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
BTW, huge thank you for the free app ID tip. I'm just so sick of the convolution that I gave up long time ago of trying to figure out how to do what I want to w/ Apple software.

Definitely need to do this w/ my daughter's touch hf

I've never been formally trained on anything - self taught all and well, I learned most everything by fiddling with the endless fiddling options real software gives a user the choice of using.

Disagreement about necessity is just that IMO - different approach of interpreting the use of certain things :)
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
iTunes is crap. If you want to interact with your ipod use winamp.
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Re: I really hate iTunes it is such a piece of shit
i uninstalled that pieces of shit a while ago and i think it also uses secretely our internet connection for what i dont fk know

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