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2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)

 
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Oh, here! [link to wingwalk.org]

Aurora is a beautiful 450 HP Stearman that was acquired from Steve Wagner in Inver Grove Heights, Minnesota who meticulously restored the airplane from the ground up.
This monster airshow Stearman is unlike any other on the airshow circuit. Aside from her one of a kind paint design, her modifications are what set her apart from any other Stearman.
Aurora, is built with all new Douglas Fir spars and Stika Spruce wood. She has a complete inverted fuel and oil system, an extra flying wire, all new birdcages, all new sheet metal, a stainless steel firewall, all new stainless steel cables, and all new control bearings, pulleys, cables and hardware. The wings have 4 equal span ailerons with servo tabs on the bottom and the tail is build with a counter balanced elevator. The crowning jewel is the fuel injected Pratt & Whitney R-985 450 Horse Power Radial engine and customized dual stack exhausts. Because the airshow smoke has been plumbed into both exhausts it produces an excessively large and beautiful smoke trail that sometimes paints duel trails in the sky.
Aurora roars to life and produces 500 HP on takeoff. She claws for the sky soon after the throttle is advanced, making for a very short take-off roll and high climb rate. The distinctive growl is unique to the 450. A large contributor to the roar of Aurora comes from the propeller tips,
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
the woman, should of stayed home in the kitchen. she would of been better off
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Maybe the pilot should have been like Chef Ramsey, he'd have been better off!
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
why were you here
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Stall
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23334240


That was no stall. It was a deliberate move.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42110674


Have to agree. Deliberate may not mean on purpose though.
One mistake, a bit of confusion, and it's all over with at
that altitude.

The Boeing Stearman is a superior biplane. A primary trainer for the military in WWII.

I can't see mechanical failure of the flight control system as a cause. I would be surprised.

Distrubing but it is real dare devil work.
I don't think a person should be isolated from these kinds of accidents though. In fact, I think so few people are exposed to reality that they can't imagine how quickly things can go wrong.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
It's not a stall. The instant the plane pulls to the ground you see the back wing flick as if he pulls the control instead of pushing it.

So either something broke, or it was pilot error which I have a hard time to believe. They must have trained this stunt so many times to get it right.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
it was an accident the pilot used the wrong control input thinking down was up no atlitude to recover from that. plane didnt stall just pilot error plain and simple.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Clearly a stall on the loaded wing (the wing the walker was on). Too slow, tip stall, roll, game over.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Again, was not a torso seen bouncing about.

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06/24/2013 09:43 PM
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she literally got driven into the ground
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www.syracuse.com/news/index.ssf/2013/06/wing_walker_jane_wick​er_killed.html#/4
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she literally got driven into the ground
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Yep. And roll grinded with the wreckage...
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Oh, here! [link to wingwalk.org]

Aurora is a beautiful 450 HP Stearman that was acquired from Steve Wagner in Inver Grove Heights, Minnesota who meticulously restored the airplane from the ground up.
This monster airshow Stearman is unlike any other on the airshow circuit. Aside from her one of a kind paint design, her modifications are what set her apart from any other Stearman.
Aurora, is built with all new Douglas Fir spars and Stika Spruce wood. She has a complete inverted fuel and oil system, an extra flying wire, all new birdcages, all new sheet metal, a stainless steel firewall, all new stainless steel cables, and all new control bearings, pulleys, cables and hardware. The wings have 4 equal span ailerons with servo tabs on the bottom and the tail is build with a counter balanced elevator. The crowning jewel is the fuel injected Pratt & Whitney R-985 450 Horse Power Radial engine and customized dual stack exhausts. Because the airshow smoke has been plumbed into both exhausts it produces an excessively large and beautiful smoke trail that sometimes paints duel trails in the sky.
Aurora roars to life and produces 500 HP on takeoff. She claws for the sky soon after the throttle is advanced, making for a very short take-off roll and high climb rate. The distinctive growl is unique to the 450. A large contributor to the roar of Aurora comes from the propeller tips,
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thank you
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
I wonder what the last was to go through her mind?
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Clearly a stall on the loaded wing (the wing the walker was on). Too slow, tip stall, roll, game over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32724772


Bingo, although I'm not sure it was a tip stall but a straight up stall and the extra weight at the tip causing the immediate roll.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Clearly a stall on the loaded wing (the wing the walker was on). Too slow, tip stall, roll, game over.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32724772


Bingo, although I'm not sure it was a tip stall but a straight up stall and the extra weight at the tip causing the immediate roll.
 Quoting: Sensible Coward


Wrong. over 100 mph is plenty to keep that plane in the air, even inverted.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
The pilot knew he was in trouble, never fully inverts the plane. Then he tries to come back around the same way without gaining some altitude first. He may have been concerned that trying to gain some altitude while inverted would have thrown the the wing walker from the plane.

Dangerous business.
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exactly right, he thought he couldnt get enough lift while inverted and tried to come around quick before he ran out of altitude.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
The pilot knew he was in trouble, never fully inverts the plane. Then he tries to come back around the same way without gaining some altitude first. He may have been concerned that trying to gain some altitude while inverted would have thrown the the wing walker from the plane.

Dangerous business.
 Quoting: CharlieMurphy




exactly right, he thought he couldnt get enough lift while inverted and tried to come around quick before he ran out of altitude.
 Quoting: CommonCents


Not exactly. You nor I know.

It looks like he tried to upright with a jerk but we don't know. Watch him invert at the beginning. Nice easy as she's on the wing he inverts, then sudden jerk. He jerked or mechanical failure.

Last Edited by Widespread Panic on 06/27/2013 01:26 AM
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HAT IN THE WAY is shocking)
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Is what the title should have said.
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Re: 2 Dead at Air Show - Plane Crash!!! (PIN WITH WARNING! VIDEO IS ...shocking)
Airshows.......Retired pilot and airshows are bullshit. High risk to be the best at the "lowest" altitude.

Appears to me the wing walkers weight on the "end" of the wing could be beyond the roll rate if the airspeed was too low. Less airspeed less maneuverability. Real problem is trying to impress the crowd at such a low altitude. Not good judgement and I would be surprised if the FAA doesn't condemn the maneuver as unauthorized.

Crazy shit and a waste for nothing.
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