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An Ordinary Greek User ID: 42131407 Greece 06/23/2013 09:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42182920 Switzerland 06/23/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #Russia's Interfax news agency reports Venezuelan diplomat picked Snowden up in a car on tarmac at Moscow airport. Whisked him away #NSA Quoting: An Ordinary Greek [link to twitter.com (secure)] John Le Carre couldn't have come up with a more exciting plot! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42103338 United States 06/23/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Let me get this right a Whistleblower goes to China, a communist country...and now he flies to Russia, another communist country that is known to kill whistleblowers with a shot in the head? Dumb move. He should of went to Iran. That's what I would have done. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32386546 Canada 06/23/2013 09:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always thought that the ICELAND story was a diversion! I hope all this is true and that this brave young man has escaped the clutches of Holder et al. May the Lord guide him and protect both him and his Wikileaks companion. Bravo Hong Kong! Bravo Russia! and Bravo Venezuela! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42095518 United States 06/23/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Some people seem to think, the govt went against the Constitution first on the 4th Amendment, so they are free go against Article 3 and support a traitor. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42095518 Legally - both would be against the law. Who did wrong first is not a principle in law? Seldom would it get you forgiveness, but perhaps a lighter sentence. And if the courts found that the 4th ammendment had not be gone against, the supporters of the traitor would get a body slam. You just can't make this sh*t up. Any American supporting Snowden because of the Constitution is like a dog chasing their tail. The only traitors are the ones in support of the spying program. Snowden is not a traitor. He is a hero! DERP! If your profile is correct and you are from Canada, you have every right to publicly say that. I'm sure Canada has a similar program though. Russia, Britain and the US do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24007958 United States 06/23/2013 09:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They will still try to eliminate all of it, if they can find it... It is his only protection now, and why he was alive and well in Hong Kong... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42176746 Germany 06/23/2013 09:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CuriosityCat1 Your kind of thinking is frightening. You are so wrong that it's unbelievable. In every other country their constitution protects the government from the people. IN THE USA THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THE PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!! Through the legal system, not through people's opinion of how it is supposed to be interpreted. Senators said that PRISM was legal. It is legal because Mitch McConnel worked on the definition of electronic surveillance to make it legal. This will be worked out according to how the courts interpret the law and the Constitution. Have you ever seen a ruling you disagreed with? Well you might get to see another one, before this is over. 4th Amendment Text The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant. On a different note: Al Qaeda and the Taliban are enemies, yet the US government is supplying them with arms and intel and training, which is high treason. And illegal according to International Law, against the Geneva Convention. Supplying non governmental groups with arms is against the law. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42095518 United States 06/23/2013 09:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. What if his job was to simply draw out the people who opposed the govt and he spends a cushy life in Venezuela and the only people who go to jail are his supporters? |
katballoo User ID: 40064165 Canada 06/23/2013 09:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CuriosityCat1 Your kind of thinking is frightening. You are so wrong that it's unbelievable. In every other country their constitution protects the government from the people. IN THE USA THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THE PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!! Through the legal system, not through people's opinion of how it is supposed to be interpreted. Senators said that PRISM was legal. It is legal because Mitch McConnel worked on the definition of electronic surveillance to make it legal. This will be worked out according to how the courts interpret the law and the Constitution. Have you ever seen a ruling you disagreed with? Well you might get to see another one, before this is over. 4th Amendment Text The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant. All this pretty much blows out the window these days. The government has been working to destroy the constitutions by establishing a NWO. The courts and judges are controlled by the government, for the most part. What the government has been doing is against the constitution, so what Snowden does is FOR the constitution. |
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7.83Hz User ID: 41619957 Australia 06/23/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. Lol. You pay the gov to do their 'Jobs' do you not? What is in 'you the publics best interests'. Do you trust your government? Anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation's for cowards. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42041786 Germany 06/23/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. now why does no one sue them? well a lot of nations depend on this illegally gathered information IF THE THREAT OF TERRORISM is true. so.... if noone is going to try that i assume that there indeed is a terror therat and a common understanding amongst western governments. TO FIND A TERRORIST YOU NEED TO BE A TERRORIST. TO FIND SOMEONE WHOM DOSENT PLAY BY RULES YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE SOMEONE NOT PLAYING BY RULES. with an eye to the barbaric slaughterhouse in syria i'd rather show the government my phonecalls and webpages than beeing cut open by a hearteating insane after he shot me. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42095518 United States 06/23/2013 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42095518 Through the legal system, not through people's opinion of how it is supposed to be interpreted. Senators said that PRISM was legal. It is legal because Mitch McConnel worked on the definition of electronic surveillance to make it legal. This will be worked out according to how the courts interpret the law and the Constitution. Have you ever seen a ruling you disagreed with? Well you might get to see another one, before this is over. 4th Amendment Text The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant. On a different note: Al Qaeda and the Taliban are enemies, yet the US government is supplying them with arms and intel and training, which is high treason. And illegal according to International Law, against the Geneva Convention. Supplying non governmental groups with arms is against the law. Two wrongs never make a right. Just because somebody else breaks a law doesn't mean you can too. American law applies to supporting Snowden. Putin will push the International Law issue, but it will have nothing to do with the American laws broken. |
katballoo User ID: 40064165 Canada 06/23/2013 09:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. We are living in different times. 30 or 40 years ago I would have called him a traitor. Today...no. It is the US government who are the traitors against the people and the US constitution. It was good that he did what he did. Someone needs to do something to bring this government to their knees. |
WinterWx User ID: 16183382 United States 06/23/2013 09:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. now why does no one sue them? well a lot of nations depend on this illegally gathered information IF THE THREAT OF TERRORISM is true. so.... if noone is going to try that i assume that there indeed is a terror therat and a common understanding amongst western governments. TO FIND A TERRORIST YOU NEED TO BE A TERRORIST. TO FIND SOMEONE WHOM DOSENT PLAY BY RULES YOU ALSO HAVE TO BE SOMEONE NOT PLAYING BY RULES. with an eye to the barbaric slaughterhouse in syria i'd rather show the government my phonecalls and webpages than beeing cut open by a hearteating insane after he shot me. I hope your children or grandchildren never have a dissenting thought about your government. WinterWx |
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7.83Hz User ID: 41619957 Australia 06/23/2013 09:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. We are living in different times. 30 or 40 years ago I would have called him a traitor. Today...no. It is the US government who are the traitors against the people and the US constitution. It was good that he did what he did. Someone needs to do something to bring this government to their knees. govis always on their knees blowing cock... coke... Anything in life worth doing is worth overdoing. Moderation's for cowards. |
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An Ordinary Greek User ID: 42131407 Greece 06/23/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean this cat snowmen must know something major, why is the US after him knowing how bad and ugly it's making them look. 75% of US supports him and over 95% of the world supports him. He must know something very big Quoting: Anonymous Coward 463662 The fact that NSA and UK's GCHQ wiretapped all phonecalls and e-mails of all politicians is BIG. And maybe we Greek might learn if it was indeed NSA and GCHQ who, through Vodafone's Greek IT infrastructure, wiretapped former Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis from 2004 till 2008 Last Edited by An Ordinary Greek on 06/23/2013 09:56 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41862433 United States 06/23/2013 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | #Russia's Interfax news agency reports Venezuelan diplomat picked Snowden up in a car on tarmac at Moscow airport. Whisked him away #NSA Quoting: An Ordinary Greek [link to twitter.com (secure)] John Le Carre couldn't have come up with a more exciting plot! I know. This shit is making me dig out my Le Carre book based movie DVDs. Putting the spy who came in from the cold now and following up with tinker tailor. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42095518 United States 06/23/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. We are living in different times. 30 or 40 years ago I would have called him a traitor. Today...no. It is the US government who are the traitors against the people and the US constitution. It was good that he did what he did. Someone needs to do something to bring this government to their knees. He and/or his supporters will not be tried based on your opinion. There will be a judge who makes the call. Any American who calls for someone to bring this govt to their knees is considered a dissident. If it happens, Americans will be whining that it happened. It would create chaos and disruption in services. Bet on it. Americans would condemn the group who brought it on. LOL |
WinterWx User ID: 16183382 United States 06/23/2013 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. We are living in different times. 30 or 40 years ago I would have called him a traitor. Today...no. It is the US government who are the traitors against the people and the US constitution. It was good that he did what he did. Someone needs to do something to bring this government to their knees. govis always on their knees blowing cock... coke... Yes, well, the Arkansas state troopers are familiar with plane loads of coke. WinterWx |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41079971 Mexico 06/23/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | with an eye to the barbaric slaughterhouse in syria i'd rather show the government my phonecalls and webpages than beeing cut open by a hearteating insane after he shot me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42041786 I hope your children or grandchildren never have a dissenting thought about your government. I thought the dissenters are the ones against Al Queda? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42041786 Germany 06/23/2013 09:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys have to see the other side. now that this huge spyoperation is unveiled what do you think will terrorist(if they exist) do? avoid the internet? avoid phones? find other solutions? PROBABLY! so if there is a threat of terrorism...... it will get much harder to cover them after snowden spoke out. i bet he didnt think about this when he decided to talk. we all do not know for sure which threats are out there. |
WinterWx User ID: 16183382 United States 06/23/2013 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So this morning i get up and see my friends and family saying rot in hell Snowden! You traitor! Etc. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41941507 Wtf? What angle are they viewing this from? They are mostly conservatives but a few libs. He's not a traitor hes a whistleblower. The difference is he revealed what the govt was doing TO US. He seeks asylum because now those he exposed want to hurt him. Running away is the only option. to be honest...HE IS A TRAITOR. simply because the government trusted him doing his JOB which he got paid for. sure...spying on the world is a sign of distrust to the entire planet showing the current us government either is scared as hell in wake of terrorism OR just wants to be the number one STALKER ORGANISATION IN THE WORLD. that is one thing but becomming a criminal to uncover criminals is another. btw...howcome noone accuses the us government to be traitor, too? sue them for a billion tons of gold and the gdp of the next 1000 years and they wont ever do this again. We are living in different times. 30 or 40 years ago I would have called him a traitor. Today...no. It is the US government who are the traitors against the people and the US constitution. It was good that he did what he did. Someone needs to do something to bring this government to their knees. He and/or his supporters will not be tried based on your opinion. There will be a judge who makes the call. Any American who calls for someone to bring this govt to their knees is considered a dissident. If it happens, Americans will be whining that it happened. It would create chaos and disruption in services. Bet on it. Americans would condemn the group who brought it on. LOL I'm pretty sure another group of Americans were not happy with the George III dissenters, either. Oh well. WinterWx |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41079971 Mexico 06/23/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys have to see the other side. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42041786 now that this huge spyoperation is unveiled what do you think will terrorist(if they exist) do? avoid the internet? avoid phones? find other solutions? PROBABLY! so if there is a threat of terrorism...... it will get much harder to cover them after snowden spoke out. i bet he didnt think about this when he decided to talk. we all do not know for sure which threats are out there. How will they do it? Go back to their caves? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42095518 United States 06/23/2013 09:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I mean this cat snowmen must know something major, why is the US after him knowing how bad and ugly it's making them look. 75% of US supports him and over 95% of the world supports him. He must know something very big Quoting: Anonymous Coward 463662 The fact that NSA and UK's GCHQ wiretapped all phonecalls and e-mails of all politicians is BIG. And maybe we Greek might learn if it was indeed NSA and GCHQ who, through Vodafone's Greek IT infrastructure, wiretapped former Greek Prime Minister Kostas Karamanlis from 2004 till 2008 What if Russia SORM is part of the GCHQ and NSA programs and they just pretend it's all seprate from the NATO countries? |