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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42115301 United States 06/23/2013 10:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | he has destoryed trust and confidence among the entire world. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42041786 against governments, eachother, other religions, people with different opinions. he has won and probably LAUGHS HIS ASS OFF FROM WHWEREVER HE MAY BE RIGHT NOW. Isn't he in DC right now, in the White House? Although I'm not sure if Michelle and his daughters are there too. |
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Ohwell User ID: 42149975 United Kingdom 06/23/2013 10:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although some claim on this thread, it is difficult to accept that this was a planned leak by the government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 A leak by government tro snowden does not explain russias behaviour, unless russia is in bed with usa. Some also claim snowden has gotnothing new. It maybe so, so far. Its what he has got in his bag that is rattling the cage Russia is in bed with the USA. Let me ask you, is it Putin or Obama that fight these wars? Nope! Only gullible, misinformed people that fight and die in these wars. At the top, they are all buddies and the REAL war is on your soul. Dont forget Bush's "winning hearts and minds". If you fall for any of these stories, consider that you have just sold the most important asset you have in life i.e. your soul or mind. |
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berniemom2012 Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 6493463 United States 06/23/2013 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you guys have to see the other side. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42041786 now that this huge spyoperation is unveiled what do you think will terrorist(if they exist) do? avoid the internet? avoid phones? find other solutions? PROBABLY! so if there is a threat of terrorism...... it will get much harder to cover them after snowden spoke out. i bet he didnt think about this when he decided to talk. we all do not know for sure which threats are out there. Yes he thought about it. He mentioned it in an interview, for the average American, getting killed by a terrorist was hightly unlikely. Heck 36,000 americans PER YEAR are killed in automobile accidents. So if Obama and the NSA cared that much about human life they'd do something about THAT. They don't. It's all about securing their own power. Spying lets them suppress dissent, not just among average citizens but also among politicians who happen to disagree with them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36661384 United Kingdom 06/23/2013 10:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting how history is repeating but In a topsy turvy way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 There was a time when russians were defecting to west. Western nations were proud to offer so called sancuary to defectors. How everything has changed around. Who would have thought that one day americans would be running away to russia in fear of oppressors and dictators. Russia threw out the Rothchilds, America is still oppressed by them and the Rockerfellers. The "good American Gov." (commons sense normal people with a moral code) may be fighting the "bad American Gov." (lead by the Rothchilds / Israel etc. with zero ethical code). Seems more evidence points to this type of scenario daily. Perhaps those marines in Jordan are there to take control of Israel's nukes, or in conjunction with Russians. I tottaly agree with you. I have often said that there are two factions fighting each other within usa. Those who stand for the forfathers who founded usa based on honor and truth and those who have highjacked usa for sake of world domination. How often have we heard that orders were given for cartain troops to attack iran in persian gulf as a pretence to false flag only to be stopped in the last minute by other factions within usa |
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told ya User ID: 42179761 Belgium 06/23/2013 10:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although some claim on this thread, it is difficult to accept that this was a planned leak by the government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 A leak by government tro snowden does not explain russias behaviour, unless russia is in bed with usa. Some also claim snowden has gotnothing new. It maybe so, so far. Its what he has got in his bag that is rattling the cage Russia is in bed with the USA. Let me ask you, is it Putin or Obama that fight these wars? Nope! Only gullible, misinformed people that fight and die in these wars. At the top, they are all buddies and the REAL war is on your soul. Dont forget Bush's "winning hearts and minds". If you fall for any of these stories, consider that you have just sold the most important asset you have in life i.e. your soul or mind. FOLOW LIVE REPORTS NOW: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] 1508: "Allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways, and Putin always seems almost eager to put a finger in the eye of the United States, whether it is Syria, Iran and now, of course, with Snowden", said Mr Shumer. "I think it'll have serious consequences for the United States-Russia relationship." 1507: US Senator Chuck Shumer told CNN's State of the Union programme he had "a feeling the hand of Beijing was involved" in Mr Snowden's flight from Hong Kong, and that Russian President Vladimir Putin was "aiding and abetting Snowden's escape" Last Edited by told ya on 06/23/2013 10:51 AM |
WinterWx User ID: 16183382 United States 06/23/2013 10:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So ... I'm late to this party. What's the black car everyone is taking pictures of? Ecuadoran embassy car. Ah! Cool and thanks. So if it's still here then is Snowden still on his way or what? I thought he arrived already. Being checked out by an Ecuadoran doctor. WinterWx |
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Ohwell User ID: 42149975 United Kingdom 06/23/2013 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Although some claim on this thread, it is difficult to accept that this was a planned leak by the government. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 A leak by government tro snowden does not explain russias behaviour, unless russia is in bed with usa. Some also claim snowden has gotnothing new. It maybe so, so far. Its what he has got in his bag that is rattling the cage Russia is in bed with the USA. Let me ask you, is it Putin or Obama that fight these wars? Nope! Only gullible, misinformed people that fight and die in these wars. At the top, they are all buddies and the REAL war is on your soul. Dont forget Bush's "winning hearts and minds". If you fall for any of these stories, consider that you have just sold the most important asset you have in life i.e. your soul or mind. FOLOW LIVE REPORTS NOW: [link to www.bbc.co.uk] 1508: "Allies are supposed to treat each other in decent ways, and Putin always seems almost eager to put a finger in the eye of the United States, whether it is Syria, Iran and now, of course, with Snowden", said Mr Shumer. "I think it'll have serious consequences for the United States-Russia relationship." 1507: US Senator Chuck Shumer told CNN's State of the Union programme he had "a feeling the hand of Beijing was involved" in Mr Snowden's flight from Hong Kong, and that Russian President Vladimir Putin was "aiding and abetting Snowden's escape" Which only further reinforces the points I made several times that this Snowden drama is all about a clash of the USA with China, Russia, Syria etc. They are simply building a storyline. Let me put it better, re-writing history right in front of your very eyes. The only downside of this is that, like the history of the world we have all come to know and accept as fact, this one is also a falsified one. I've tried to explain where all these end up in my PRISM thread. All roads lead to the NWO and the complete subjugation of what's left of the human race after all these events play themselves out. Albert Pike said it, David Rockefeller said it, Bush Senior also said it. How much further proof do people need to see this is all made up? Last Edited by Ohwell on 06/23/2013 11:00 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41079971 Mexico 06/23/2013 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spilling the beans that there is a NSA program that has the ability to snoop to fight terrorism and protect the country is wrong - spilling the beans that the capability has been misused (while protecting the technology used) is not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185601 But we all knew the NSA has been 'snooping' for decades. The thing that's new is an huge increase in their capacity following the totally opened ended internet, building 'fusion centers' and even that place in Utah. And the 'legal' framework? Patriot Act and a whole lot more. Misuse is not a legal term, esp for the NSA. So what's the deal? The worse it seems to me, however, is the legal reinterpretation of 'separation of powers' to the Executive having 'autonomous and separate powers'. Is it really a reinterpretation?, or was Nixon right: the prez is above the law and has always been... |
Force King User ID: 20702586 United States 06/23/2013 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russian news agency @interfax_news reports #Snowden will wait for flight to Cuba at Moscow airport [link to on.rt.com] [link to twitter.com (secure)] Last Edited by Force King on 06/23/2013 11:11 AM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36661384 United Kingdom 06/23/2013 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is no doubt that in future you utterances on social media will be used as a proof of what you were likely to do in future. Enough to put you away for a long time |
WinterWx User ID: 16183382 United States 06/23/2013 11:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spilling the beans that there is a NSA program that has the ability to snoop to fight terrorism and protect the country is wrong - spilling the beans that the capability has been misused (while protecting the technology used) is not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185601 But we all knew the NSA has been 'snooping' for decades. The thing that's new is an huge increase in their capacity following the totally opened ended internet, building 'fusion centers' and even that place in Utah. And the 'legal' framework? Patriot Act and a whole lot more. Misuse is not a legal term, esp for the NSA. So what's the deal? The worse it seems to me, however, is the legal reinterpretation of 'separation of powers' to the Executive having 'autonomous and separate powers'. Is it really a reinterpretation?, or was Nixon right: the prez is above the law and has always been... Watched the "World According to Dick Cheney" documentary last night - Dick Cheney certainly thought the president is above the law due to his time spent in the Nixon White House. WinterWx |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 33863384 United States 06/23/2013 11:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interesting how history is repeating but In a topsy turvy way. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 There was a time when russians were defecting to west. Western nations were proud to offer so called sancuary to defectors. How everything has changed around. Who would have thought that one day americans would be running away to russia in fear of oppressors and dictators. Russia threw out the Rothchilds, America is still oppressed by them and the Rockerfellers. The "good American Gov." (commons sense normal people with a moral code) may be fighting the "bad American Gov." (lead by the Rothchilds / Israel etc. with zero ethical code). Seems more evidence points to this type of scenario daily. Perhaps those marines in Jordan are there to take control of Israel's nukes, or in conjunction with Russians. I tottaly agree with you. I have often said that there are two factions fighting each other within usa. Those who stand for the forfathers who founded usa based on honor and truth and those who have highjacked usa for sake of world domination. How often have we heard that orders were given for cartain troops to attack iran in persian gulf as a pretence to false flag only to be stopped in the last minute by other factions within usa Yes the whole thin is getting beyond preposterous, how they motivate the US Military to do anything anymore is beyond me. Perhaps that is why the use of drones, black ops, mercs, subcontractors like blackwater etc. We have a lot of plane crashed, suicide upper level good guys, let alone recent removal of some admirals and generals. Maybe some kind of push back there too. See Bolshevik Revolution for more info because it seems that is what is being attempted here. Full court press since assassination of JFK (mlk, bobby, a few others). What has America done to lead the world since that time, absolutely nothing. It is in plane view for all to see, not a conspiracy "theory", it is a real one. |
PIR User ID: 33479868 United States 06/23/2013 11:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: CuriosityCat1 Your kind of thinking is frightening. You are so wrong that it's unbelievable. In every other country their constitution protects the government from the people. IN THE USA THE CONSTITUTION PROTECTS THE PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT!!! Through the legal system, not through people's opinion of how it is supposed to be interpreted. Senators said that PRISM was legal. It is legal because Mitch McConnel worked on the definition of electronic surveillance to make it legal. This will be worked out according to how the courts interpret the law and the Constitution. Have you ever seen a ruling you disagreed with? Well you might get to see another one, before this is over. 4th Amendment Text The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. Article 3, section 3, clause 1 of the U.S. Constitution specifies that the giving of aid and comfort to the enemy is an element in the crime of Treason. Aid and comfort may consist of substantial assistance or the mere attempt to provide some support; actual help or the success of the enterprise is not relevant. Kind of like giving weapons to terrorist in Syria eh? Whoops... |
PIR User ID: 33479868 United States 06/23/2013 11:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Russia threw out the Rothchilds, America is still oppressed by them and the Rockerfellers. The "good American Gov." (commons sense normal people with a moral code) may be fighting the "bad American Gov." (lead by the Rothchilds / Israel etc. with zero ethical code). Seems more evidence points to this type of scenario daily. Perhaps those marines in Jordan are there to take control of Israel's nukes, or in conjunction with Russians. I tottaly agree with you. I have often said that there are two factions fighting each other within usa. Those who stand for the forfathers who founded usa based on honor and truth and those who have highjacked usa for sake of world domination. How often have we heard that orders were given for cartain troops to attack iran in persian gulf as a pretence to false flag only to be stopped in the last minute by other factions within usa Yes the whole thin is getting beyond preposterous, how they motivate the US Military to do anything anymore is beyond me. Perhaps that is why the use of drones, black ops, mercs, subcontractors like blackwater etc. We have a lot of plane crashed, suicide upper level good guys, let alone recent removal of some admirals and generals. Maybe some kind of push back there too. See Bolshevik Revolution for more info because it seems that is what is being attempted here. Full court press since assassination of JFK (mlk, bobby, a few others). What has America done to lead the world since that time, absolutely nothing. It is in plane view for all to see, not a conspiracy "theory", it is a real one. "None Dare Call it Conspiracy" Free copy: [link to www.ldsfreedomnetwork.com] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 41079971 Mexico 06/23/2013 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This NSA scenario and its equivalent in uk is clearly leading towards thought police Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 There is no doubt that in future you utterances on social media will be used as a proof of what you were likely to do in future. Enough to put you away for a long time With new quantum computers they'll be able to pre-flag on the go, while you post and collated with past posts. Lists of names printed out at SWAT hq before you log out... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 33863384 United States 06/23/2013 11:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This NSA scenario and its equivalent in uk is clearly leading towards thought police Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36661384 There is no doubt that in future you utterances on social media will be used as a proof of what you were likely to do in future. Enough to put you away for a long time With new quantum computers they'll be able to pre-flag on the go, while you post and collated with past posts. Lists of names printed out at SWAT hq before you log out... So the world was a better place with no cell phones or internet, just as I suspected. Information age, yes a good thing, psychopathic domination of the world put into high gear though technology, oh my. Soon people saying the hell with it or finding other ways, actually they already are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41079971 Mexico 06/23/2013 11:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Spilling the beans that there is a NSA program that has the ability to snoop to fight terrorism and protect the country is wrong - spilling the beans that the capability has been misused (while protecting the technology used) is not. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1185601 But we all knew the NSA has been 'snooping' for decades. The thing that's new is an huge increase in their capacity following the totally opened ended internet, building 'fusion centers' and even that place in Utah. And the 'legal' framework? Patriot Act and a whole lot more. Misuse is not a legal term, esp for the NSA. So what's the deal? The worse it seems to me, however, is the legal reinterpretation of 'separation of powers' to the Executive having 'autonomous and separate powers'. Is it really a reinterpretation?, or was Nixon right: the prez is above the law and has always been... Watched the "World According to Dick Cheney" documentary last night - Dick Cheney certainly thought the president is above the law due to his time spent in the Nixon White House. And Nixon never did go to court for a ruling, did he? IMO that's why he resigned so the power of the Executive could remain Constitutionally ambiguous. The system works! (cough cough) |