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BREAKING! The Governments of Viet Nam and Ecuador Speak on Snowden: ASSYLUM UNDER CONSIDERATION!!!

 
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Citing their help with Julian Assange, Snowden asks the Government of Ecuador for help.

"Ecuador acts on the declaration of international law and human rights above other interests and pressures.

"The government of Ecuador guarantees the anonymity and safety of reporters and their sources."

"The right of refugee and asylum is recognized, but there are also some international rules that have to be considered."


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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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I wish I knew how to help Snowden. I would do anything.
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Dumbass who has been led to the slaughter. 2009? Really? LONG before then.
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Absolutely true! I have been researching Ecuador for a year or so. The people are friendly to Americans, the currency used is the US dollar. The cost of living is extremely low and the healthcare there is cheap and outstanding!
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tomorrow north korea and nazi germany offer asylum.
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I don't know, he could more easily get assassinated in Ecuador because our government has some ties with that country.
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:constitution:
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Absolutely true! I have been researching Ecuador for a year or so. The people are friendly to Americans, the currency used is the US dollar. The cost of living is extremely low and the healthcare there is cheap and outstanding!
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It's true. Many doctors are educated in Cuba and engineers in Russia. They have agreements with these countries that allow a significant number of scholarships to offer people who would normally not have these opportunities. Education in Cuba is top-notch, not to mention Russia.
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I don't know, he could more easily get assassinated in Ecuador because our government has some ties with that country.
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This is true as well. Ecuador and Latin America in General is crawling with CIA and unless he was with security constantly he could be in danger. Ecuadorian police are not known for their intelligence. The only pre-requisite is a 6th grade education.
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Hanoi - Ecuador said on Monday that it was considering a US request related to former US intelligence contractor Edward Snowden and would take a decision in due time.

Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino told reporters in Vietnam that his government would review the request, which it received from the US envoy in Quito.

"We will consider the position of the US government and we will take a decision in due course in line with the [Ecuadorean] constitution, the laws, international politics and sovereignty," Patino told a news conference in Hanoi.

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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Simply not true here. Crime rate may be a bit lower, but people here don't care much about the environment. Purely reactive. It is a lot more comfortable in many respects thought.
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Simply not true here. Crime rate may be a bit lower, but people here don't care much about the environment. Purely reactive. It is a lot more comfortable in many respects thought.
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Absolutely true! I have been researching Ecuador for a year or so. The people are friendly to Americans, the currency used is the US dollar. The cost of living is extremely low and the healthcare there is cheap and outstanding!
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Umm, Sorry to burst your bubble.... I LIVE in Ecuador,it is a beautiful country, but not awesome, pollution is terrible, with high crime in the cities, but foreigners do not know this because they DON'T REPORT IT- and if the theft is for less than $599 US, they do NOT arrest the felon- no jail time! People that murder only spend 7 years in jail if convicted of the murder, if you can pay off a Judge, no jail, no conviction! Guns are outlawed, so only the robbers have guns. Bandits go into restaurants and rob EVERYBODY's phones, cash jewelry, etc. Cops in the cities pull over Buses, and trucks, and Gringos to get lunch money.....people are generally friendly to Americans, but anti-American sentiment is growing. Cost of living is lower than the US, having an average income of $350 per month, some people live cheaply, but Americans are going to need $1500-$2000 a month minimum to live comfortably. Cuenca is nice, but home-invasion robberies on the rise. It is still 3rd world.....
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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nice
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I wish I knew how to help Snowden. I would do anything.
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Never forget, always speak up and remind people.

The most powerful force against this type of oppression is truth spoken in mass. The rest will fall into place.

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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Somehow I don't think at this point he's to worried about the environment but thanks for letting us know where your primary agenda lies.

My bet is in his position you wouldn't be thinking of the environment either!
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Umm, Sorry to burst your bubble.... I LIVE in Ecuador,it is a beautiful country, but not awesome, pollution is terrible, with high crime in the cities, but foreigners do not know this because they DON'T REPORT IT- and if the theft is for less than $599 US, they do NOT arrest the felon- no jail time! People that murder only spend 7 years in jail if convicted of the murder, if you can pay off a Judge, no jail, no conviction! Guns are outlawed, so only the robbers have guns. Bandits go into restaurants and rob EVERYBODY's phones, cash jewelry, etc. Cops in the cities pull over Buses, and trucks, and Gringos to get lunch money.....people are generally friendly to Americans, but anti-American sentiment is growing. Cost of living is lower than the US, having an average income of $350 per month, some people live cheaply, but Americans are going to need $1500-$2000 a month minimum to live comfortably. Cuenca is nice, but home-invasion robberies on the rise. It is still 3rd world.....
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I LOVE it when someone that lives in one of these areas tell us how it really is! We tend to get the grandiose visions of how great it must be in these other lands/countries and that it has to be better than where we are sitting or living. The grass is not always greener folks. They just have different problems.
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41873919


Absolutely true! I have been researching Ecuador for a year or so. The people are friendly to Americans, the currency used is the US dollar. The cost of living is extremely low and the healthcare there is cheap and outstanding!
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Umm, Sorry to burst your bubble.... I LIVE in Ecuador,it is a beautiful country, but not awesome, pollution is terrible, with high crime in the cities, but foreigners do not know this because they DON'T REPORT IT- and if the theft is for less than $599 US, they do NOT arrest the felon- no jail time! People that murder only spend 7 years in jail if convicted of the murder, if you can pay off a Judge, no jail, no conviction! Guns are outlawed, so only the robbers have guns. Bandits go into restaurants and rob EVERYBODY's phones, cash jewelry, etc. Cops in the cities pull over Buses, and trucks, and Gringos to get lunch money.....people are generally friendly to Americans, but anti-American sentiment is growing. Cost of living is lower than the US, having an average income of $350 per month, some people live cheaply, but Americans are going to need $1500-$2000 a month minimum to live comfortably. Cuenca is nice, but home-invasion robberies on the rise. It is still 3rd world.....
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Right. I appreciate your input and I have told you that before. You keep warning about the robberies. I am sure you know what you are talking about. I am taking that into consideration and I had not heard of this at all until you spoke of it, so THANKS.

Where I live in New Mexico is almost like a third world country. We talk about it a lot here. 75% of the people in this area are hispanic. The majority are illegal immigrants. They are also prejudiced. Seeing a blonde is such a rarity that when I walk into stores little children stare at me. LOL.

Home invasions have tripled here. The healthcare in my area is basically "triage." Of course, we do have guns legally here.

The cost of living here is ridiculously high.

I think, as you say, you never really know a place until you live there.
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We should stay clear of Assange and the Wikileaks crowd and Vietnam. Vietnam is totally US/Illuminati occupied territory, shorlty after they signed massive $$$ deals with the US they even had a fag-pride parade over there! Anyone just half-informed about the true Nature of the Conspiracy knows that fag-pride parades are a sure way of knowing that a particular contru is under US/Illuminati occupation. Vietnam is even engaged in the bullying of China concerning the disputed Islands, another sure way of knowing a puppet government...

Belarus is the perfect place for him IMHO.
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Why didn't Snowden go to a country that doesn't extradite to the USA, before revealing his information? I mean, if I wanted to reveal something, I would either just go ahead and reveal it and face the consequences, or I would go to someplace like Cuba and hold my press conference there.
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
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Vietnam? "Respect for the environment"? HahaHahAhAAhA

Many industrial zones, factories, and urban areas discharge waste water into lakes and rivers, leaving parts of the country with water rendered unusable through contamination.

Industrial zone waste water is a particularly serious threat to the health of Vietnam’s surface water.

The agriculture sector is the country’s highest water user and contributes a major proportion of national waste water.

Due to excessive use, an average of 20–30 percent of agricultural plant protection chemicals and fertilizers will eventually end up in surface water and accumulate in the soil, contaminating the soil eventually.

Most towns currently have no waste water treatment systems. Residential areas, tourist sites, and even handicraft producers all discharge waste water into rivers and lakes, contributing to the pollution of aquatic systems in Vietnam’s urban and suburban areas.

[link to english.vietnamnet.vn]

And let's not forget liberty and freedom in VN:

The government suppresses virtually all forms of political dissent, using a broad array of repressive measures. Freedom of expression, association, and public assembly are tightly controlled. Religious activists are harassed, intimidated, and imprisoned. State-run drug rehabilitation centers exploit detainees as forced laborers making goods for local markets and export. The criminal justice system lacks independence and operates under the direction of the government and Communist party.

Ecuador?

Increasingly, miners bring their sacks of raw gold to one of the 100 processing plants that line the Puyango River. At these plants, gold is extracted using a more efficient, mechanized process that also relies on mercury. This process leaves behind a muddy sludge of tailings containing a mix of lead, mercury, manganese, and various cyanides. These tailings are eventually flushed into the river system, poisoning the water and killing all aquatic life in the area.

President Rafael Correa has undercut freedom of the press in Ecuador by subjecting journalists and media figures to public denunciation and retaliatory litigation.

According to official statistics cited in the press, the state broadcasting authority closed 20 private radio and television outlets in the first six months of 2012. The Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ) found that in some instances government regulators ordered closures before judicial appeals had been heard, and that more than half the stations closed had been critical of the government.

In July 2012, a prosecutor charged 10 people with “terrorist acts,” and breaching state security after their arrest while holding a peaceful meeting to plan their participation in a public protest. According to their lawyers, the only evidence that prosecutors had produced against them consisted of personal objects like innocuous books, t-shirts, and music found during a police raid on their homes.

In May 2012, Ecuador’s human rights record came under scrutiny in the UN’s Human Rights Council’s (HRC) Universal Periodic Review (UPR) for restrictions on freedom of expression, efforts to regulate NGOs, and delays in implementing judicial reform. Ecuador rejected a recommendation to end criminal sanctions for the expression of opinions.

In February, the National Court confirmed a sentence of three years’ imprisonment and US$40 million in damages against three owners of El Universo and a journalist working for the newspaper. They had been convicted of slander for an editorial in which they described the President as a “dictator” and accused him of giving the order to open fire on a hospital during the police protests of September 2010.

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snowden is a great american hero

who is exposing the criminal jew gov't

that bombed vietnamn and killed millions

yeah they should take him

and tell the jew controlled usa to fuck off
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Ecuador and Vietnam....two awesome places. People think 3rd world when they hear them, truth is they are absolutely beautiful countries with very low crime and the respect and protect their environment.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41873919


Very low crime rate in Ecuador?

Muggings and pick pocketing are common. Don’t wear expensive jewellery when walking around and watch your bags on public transport. Wear your rucksack on the front of your body. Where possible, don’t store anything under your seat or in the overhead storage. Keep your passport and money on you at all times. Take care of your belongings in restaurants or cafes and watch out for thieves. Criminals sometimes squirt liquids (ketchup, mustard, water, etc.) on you and then steal your bag while ‘helping’ to clean you up. Other methods of distraction include requests for assistance, staged fights and pushing or shoving. Don’t resist a robbery.

Take care when withdrawing money from a bank or at an ATM. The authorities suspect that gang members inside banks inform others.

Express kidnappings - short-term opportunistic abductions, aimed at extracting cash from the victim - also occur, particularly in Quito and Guayaquil. Victims can be targeted or selected at random and held while criminals empty their bank accounts with stolen cash cards.

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Snowden provides proof the Government is spying on it's citizens....Then the Government charges him with spying?

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Ecuador is fine if people know what they are getting into BEFORE they come. Research, ask questions and then take precautions. We took some well-meaning friends advice, and in the 1st 6 months living here, got robbed and shot at. ( they missed ) If you are vigilant, you will do better, if you can buy our own car and maintain it, you will be safer than taking public transport. I know MANY that have been robbed at gunpoint and knife point, and know 2 people that have been kidnapped for the "express robbery." I also have a friend that got scoped. (scopalamine robbery) I also personally know people who have been burglarized, beat and tied up while the punks went through their house. Now that I "know the ropes" We don't have any problems, and plan on staying here.

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Citing their help with Julian Assange, Snowden asks the Government of Ecuador for help.

"Ecuador acts on the declaration of international law and human rights above other interests and pressures.

"The government of Ecuador guarantees the anonymity and safety of reporters and their sources."

"The right of refugee and asylum is recognized, but there are also some international rules that have to be considered."


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I hope he gets asylum and lives a happy life. He deserves it.
Its amazing, where the US is today, compared to lets say 50 years ago.

Today the US is an orwellian state, compared to communist russia or east germany at the time.

Your freedom is an illusion. You are not a free country anymore.
50 years ago, you were a free country. Today, you are in denial.

Snowden was right to make the NSA daily work public. A state has no right to spy on its citizen that way. A state should serve and not be an absolutist moloch controlling its citizens.

One day, all the means, which are put into place right now, are going to be used against you, your kids, your families. Thats for sure.
If you do not believe that, look into history and explain me in rational short arguments, why your country is different.

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