BREAKING - Explosion Grain Silo/Plant - Union Mills Indiana | |
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Threelittlelambs (OP) Curious.... User ID: 38399358 United States 06/24/2013 03:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Full release from LaPorte County Sheriff's Office: At 1:29 pm (CST) the La Porte County Regional 911 Dispatch Center received a number of 911 calls reporting an explosion at the Union Mills Co-Op, which is located at 3551 West 800 South in Union Mills. Deputies from the La Porte County Sheriff’s Office, La Porte County Emergency Medical Service and Noble Township Fire Department were dispatched to the scene and upon arrival, the scene was quickly assessed and it was confirmed that one (1) person was deceased as a result of the explosion. All other employees were accounted for and no other injuries were reported. It was also confirmed that the explosion occurred and limited to a concrete grain silo that is adjacent to a railroad spur on the grounds of the Co-Op. No hazardous chemicals were involved or released as a result of the explosion and it is not believed that a fire was involved. The cause of the explosion is not yet known and it was believed that the victim, who is a Co-Op employee, was working in the silo at the time of the explosion. Emergency responders and investigators remain on scene and as additional information is learned it will be made available. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42258681 United States 06/24/2013 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you possibly list the names of the explosion locations, etc. I need to research more. thanks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12840221 Fuel barge in Alabama explodes [link to www.farmingahead.com.au] diesel fuel is used in conjunction with fertilizer to make home made bombs this area is the main supplier of diesel fuel in the US. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12840221 United Kingdom 06/24/2013 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you possibly list the names of the explosion locations, etc. I need to research more. thanks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12840221 Fuel barge in Alabama explodes [link to www.farmingahead.com.au] diesel fuel is used in conjunction with fertilizer to make home made bombs this area is the main supplier of diesel fuel in the US. Fuck man, this is actually looking like what we are coming to suspect. I wish I felt safe posting the details of my current knowledge but I cannot. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1001567 Canada 06/24/2013 04:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are our possibilities? We know from the okc bombing that fertilizer makes a hell of a bomb. Are they trying to head off people who would use this fertilizer for a copycat incident or are fertilizer plants just a convenient thing to blow up because of low security and the size of the explosion. Is it supposed to hurt our food production? Did these producers not agree to change something in the mix under the table or maybe that is what they were doing and this was retaliation? Do all of these fertilizer producers have anything in common? sure would be nice to have real investigative reporters to answer some of these questions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 12840221 United Kingdom 06/24/2013 04:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So what are our possibilities? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1001567 We know from the okc bombing that fertilizer makes a hell of a bomb. Are they trying to head off people who would use this fertilizer for a copycat incident or are fertilizer plants just a convenient thing to blow up because of low security and the size of the explosion. Is it supposed to hurt our food production? Did these producers not agree to change something in the mix under the table or maybe that is what they were doing and this was retaliation? Do all of these fertilizer producers have anything in common? sure would be nice to have real investigative reporters to answer some of these questions. Agree. What do these explosions achieve in the Meta-view. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 4436191 United States 06/24/2013 04:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can blow up strategic targets all they want. But all it is gonna take is one good software hacker/emp to make most of their heavy equipment into paperweights. Then shit will be messy for both sides. I remember in the mid 90s when a battleship with windows nt computers crashed for a couple days, they couldn't even move the ship let alone shoot the main guns. They were sitting dead in the water. That was 20 years ago, how dependent do you think they are on computers now. All it's gonna take is some 16 year old computer genius to program a virus to bring it all down. Or someone to create an emp device and use it near the main AFBs. Everyone knows that controlled airspace is the first step toward defeating your enemy on the ground. What I'm saying is don't underestimate human ingenuity, the smartest people usually don't get involved in war until they are painted into a corner. Then they are your worst enemy. Also don't underestimate the private sector and other countries. There a lot of self made billionaires and countries that would likely side with the opposition creating war capital very quickly. Think about how the US supplies other countries rebels with supplies during civil wars, now imagine our enemies will do the same, so the one sidedness of the fight would end quickly as they would have a fight on multiple fronts. Again then it's gonna get messy quickly because they are going to want to crush the opposition before they get financial and equipment support. They are smart to prepare by doing this, but in the end they will lose because good always prevails, it sometimes just takes awhile and a bit of suffering to get people motivated to fight for a cause. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 12840221 United Kingdom 06/24/2013 04:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can blow up strategic targets all they want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4436191 But all it is gonna take is one good software hacker/emp to make most of their heavy equipment into paperweights. Then shit will be messy for both sides. I remember in the mid 90s when a battleship with windows nt computers crashed for a couple days, they couldn't even move the ship let alone shoot the main guns. They were sitting dead in the water. That was 20 years ago, how dependent do you think they are on computers now. All it's gonna take is some 16 year old computer genius to program a virus to bring it all down. Or someone to create an emp device and use it near the main AFBs. Everyone knows that controlled airspace is the first step toward defeating your enemy on the ground. What I'm saying is don't underestimate human ingenuity, the smartest people usually don't get involved in war until they are painted into a corner. Then they are your worst enemy. Also don't underestimate the private sector and other countries. There a lot of self made billionaires and countries that would likely side with the opposition creating war capital very quickly. Think about how the US supplies other countries rebels with supplies during civil wars, now imagine our enemies will do the same, so the one sidedness of the fight would end quickly as they would have a fight on multiple fronts. Again then it's gonna get messy quickly because they are going to want to crush the opposition before they get financial and equipment support. They are smart to prepare by doing this, but in the end they will lose because good always prevails, it sometimes just takes awhile and a bit of suffering to get people motivated to fight for a cause. Agreed. I want to be in your squad when shit hits the fan. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 30199236 United States 06/24/2013 04:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There is a suggestion (merely a SUGGESTION, mind you) that since this fertilizer is obviously explosive, that the Gubb'mint is "sponsoring" these explosions,to keep this substance out of the hands of patriots fighting back against them and their policies. This is the 3rd or 4th in 2 months - very interesting...... "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |
far from sane User ID: 32211752 United States 06/24/2013 04:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Full release from LaPorte County Sheriff's Office: Quoting: Threelittlelambs At 1:29 pm (CST) the La Porte County Regional 911 Dispatch Center received a number of 911 calls reporting an explosion at the Union Mills Co-Op, which is located at 3551 West 800 South in Union Mills. Deputies from the La Porte County Sheriff’s Office, La Porte County Emergency Medical Service and Noble Township Fire Department were dispatched to the scene and upon arrival, the scene was quickly assessed and it was confirmed that one (1) person was deceased as a result of the explosion. All other employees were accounted for and no other injuries were reported. It was also confirmed that the explosion occurred and limited to a concrete grain silo that is adjacent to a railroad spur on the grounds of the Co-Op. No hazardous chemicals were involved or released as a result of the explosion and it is not believed that a fire was involved. The cause of the explosion is not yet known and it was believed that the victim, who is a Co-Op employee, was working in the silo at the time of the explosion. Emergency responders and investigators remain on scene and as additional information is learned it will be made available. [link to www.fox28.com] fox 28 news, also local KIERAN/RAVEN, CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT, BUT I HAVE LEARNED ONE THING IN LIFE...ALWAYS QUESTION EVERYTHING......( AND NOTHING IS FREE!!!!!) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 976826 Canada 06/24/2013 04:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42258681 United States 06/24/2013 04:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Could you possibly list the names of the explosion locations, etc. I need to research more. thanks. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12840221 Fuel barge in Alabama explodes [link to www.farmingahead.com.au] diesel fuel is used in conjunction with fertilizer to make home made bombs this area is the main supplier of diesel fuel in the US. Explosion of old army arms depot, Camp Minden Louisiana 10/16/2012 Thread: Video of aftermath from bunker explosion at Camp Minden |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1926846 United States 06/24/2013 04:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They can blow up strategic targets all they want. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 4436191 But all it is gonna take is one good software hacker/emp to make most of their heavy equipment into paperweights. Then shit will be messy for both sides. I remember in the mid 90s when a battleship with windows nt computers crashed for a couple days, they couldn't even move the ship let alone shoot the main guns. They were sitting dead in the water. That was 20 years ago, how dependent do you think they are on computers now. All it's gonna take is some 16 year old computer genius to program a virus to bring it all down. Or someone to create an emp device and use it near the main AFBs. Everyone knows that controlled airspace is the first step toward defeating your enemy on the ground. What I'm saying is don't underestimate human ingenuity, the smartest people usually don't get involved in war until they are painted into a corner. Then they are your worst enemy. Also don't underestimate the private sector and other countries. There a lot of self made billionaires and countries that would likely side with the opposition creating war capital very quickly. Think about how the US supplies other countries rebels with supplies during civil wars, now imagine our enemies will do the same, so the one sidedness of the fight would end quickly as they would have a fight on multiple fronts. Again then it's gonna get messy quickly because they are going to want to crush the opposition before they get financial and equipment support. They are smart to prepare by doing this, but in the end they will lose because good always prevails, it sometimes just takes awhile and a bit of suffering to get people motivated to fight for a cause. Agreed. I want to be in your squad when shit hits the fan. A bad computer virus will do absolutely nothing...maybe it would be an irritant if they havent already plan for the possibility, which being the us gov., I guarantee you they have. Work on your survival skills, team tactics and worry about keeping a low profile of your community...dont be baited with propganda. It wont be like in the movies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42258681 United States 06/24/2013 04:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | more than that 6 in the last 8 months including the blast in Texas this can't be all coincidence and all 6 of them had resources to make war fertilizer diesel fuel dumps old army caches of bombs and ammo if you can't see what they are doing then you are either blind or stupid or both |
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Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 06/24/2013 04:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. No, there doesn't need to be explosives in a grain bin for it to explode. Grain can and does combust on it's own. It happens in the summer when the humidity, or lack of it, is just right. It's a known hazard of working at a grain elevator. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This isn't the best article about the causes of grain explosions, most of the others are pretty technical. If you want to read more, just search on grain elevator explosions. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 976826 Canada 06/24/2013 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. No, there doesn't need to be explosives in a grain bin for it to explode. Grain can and does combust on it's own. It happens in the summer when the humidity, or lack of it, is just right. It's a known hazard of working at a grain elevator. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This isn't the best article about the causes of grain explosions, most of the others are pretty technical. If you want to read more, just search on grain elevator explosions. Sounds reasonable i'll fact check it. Wouldn't these dangers be well known by now and accounted for closely? Who wants to lose an entire growing seasons worth of grain |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42226253 United States 06/24/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the US Government is already at war with the American people. First they corner the market on ammo. then they blow up every fertilizer plant that Patriots could use to make bombs against the tyrannical regime. your tax dollars at work keeping you under the jack boot. ^^THIS^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42226253 United States 06/24/2013 04:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the US Government is already at war with the American people. First they corner the market on ammo. then they blow up every fertilizer plant that Patriots could use to make bombs against the tyrannical regime. your tax dollars at work keeping you under the jack boot. ^^THIS^^ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 7119662 United States 06/24/2013 04:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. No, there doesn't need to be explosives in a grain bin for it to explode. Grain can and does combust on it's own. It happens in the summer when the humidity, or lack of it, is just right. It's a known hazard of working at a grain elevator. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This isn't the best article about the causes of grain explosions, most of the others are pretty technical. If you want to read more, just search on grain elevator explosions. Sounds reasonable i'll fact check it. Wouldn't these dangers be well known by now and accounted for closely? Who wants to lose an entire growing seasons worth of grain I don't know if there is any way to stop it. Every tiny town in the Midwest has a grain elevator or multiple ones in their towns though. I imagine something to prevent it may not be cost feasible for most of these places. I don't know a lot about the components that make this happen but grain elevators exploding during harvest time is an annual occurance. |
Texan Buckeye User ID: 1533753 United States 06/24/2013 04:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. No, there doesn't need to be explosives in a grain bin for it to explode. Grain can and does combust on it's own. It happens in the summer when the humidity, or lack of it, is just right. It's a known hazard of working at a grain elevator. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This isn't the best article about the causes of grain explosions, most of the others are pretty technical. If you want to read more, just search on grain elevator explosions. Sounds reasonable i'll fact check it. Wouldn't these dangers be well known by now and accounted for closely? Who wants to lose an entire growing seasons worth of grain I don't know if there is any way to stop it. Every tiny town in the Midwest has a grain elevator or multiple ones in their towns though. I imagine something to prevent it may not be cost feasible for most of these places. I don't know a lot about the components that make this happen but grain elevators exploding during harvest time is an annual occurance. I don't think there is yet, either. I know the industry has been working on it for years, but so far, nothing works completely. It IS better than it used to be, but they haven't found a way to control conditions. The elevators are massive and outdoors. Too many variables. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 23393274 Norway 06/24/2013 04:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the American people cannot make war Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42258681 on the regime if Uncle Sam destroys all their resources to make war first. ammo gone fertilizer gone microwaves almost gone This is the third one that I am keeping track of. Texas, Louisiana and now indiana. This is not solid proof by any means. But, cmon, this cant be some sort of disabling tactic? Can it.. There is no such thing as a coincidence in a situation like this The war has begun and we don't even know it! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 838992 Canada 06/24/2013 04:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. No, there doesn't need to be explosives in a grain bin for it to explode. Grain can and does combust on it's own. It happens in the summer when the humidity, or lack of it, is just right. It's a known hazard of working at a grain elevator. [link to en.wikipedia.org] This isn't the best article about the causes of grain explosions, most of the others are pretty technical. If you want to read more, just search on grain elevator explosions. Sounds reasonable i'll fact check it. Wouldn't these dangers be well known by now and accounted for closely? Who wants to lose an entire growing seasons worth of grain I don't know if there is any way to stop it. Every tiny town in the Midwest has a grain elevator or multiple ones in their towns though. I imagine something to prevent it may not be cost feasible for most of these places. I don't know a lot about the components that make this happen but grain elevators exploding during harvest time is an annual occurance. ok i understand it. The grain or flour creates a miniscule sized dust that perpetually hangs in the air constantly. If this dust is ignited somehow it spreads through the bin igniting all the dust in the air. Now all the energy from the flash fire has no where to go inside this thick concrete structure and essentially turns it into a giant pipe bomb or an overloaded pressure cooker with no release valve. They try to control this by keeping rocks or metal out of the grain before it is put onto the bin so there is nothing that can inadvertently cause a spark to ignite this flammable dust. Now the question is how hard would it be create this scenario artificially. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 41061204 United States 06/24/2013 04:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | grain elevators are relatively prone to explosion. All of the dust created and the static electricity from the friction creates an explosive atmosphere. When i was a kid the grain elevator exploded on the farm I was working on. Not really a big deal, but it moved the pole barn over a few inches. |
Eggcellent Re-Instate Smith-Mundt! User ID: 30199236 United States 06/24/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well an explosion in a grain bin would require explosives right? Thats a whole different ball game unless there was something explosive already on site in the bin. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 976826 Sometimes i wonder if its as simple as turf wars between the mob and who ever. the "dust" from a grain bin can be quite explosive - it's almost lighter than air and very dry. Thought I read a few posts up that the fert. plant and the grain bin were side by side. Not real smart in the real estate department! "I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12 |