Was Hastings' car hacked? It is possible... | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40379256 United States 06/24/2013 04:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now. I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40379256 United States 06/24/2013 04:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The poor guy died in one of the safest cars ever made...I think it was a 500 series. I think theey have a minimum of 16 airbags! Im sure they they deactivated the seatbelts first and foremost. A fire would have covered up the evidence of non-deployment of airbags because the heat would have acitvated them... |
manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 05:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper. Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40379256 United States 06/24/2013 05:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper. Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure... Yep, these guys were talking about how the intrusion would not even show up via a bluetooth paring in the device cache!!! |
manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 05:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper. Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure... Yep, these guys were talking about how the intrusion would not even show up via a bluetooth paring in the device cache!!! Yep, like stabbing someone with an icicle...the evidence just melts away. |
manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage. Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40379256 United States 06/24/2013 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage. Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs... The ECM controls the fuel pump...which is located in the fuel tank. It also controls the high presure fuel injectors and the railings. im sure you could do some damage with those devices, especially on moment of impact. |
JustinSider User ID: 30414805 United States 06/24/2013 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I highly think his car was hacked. I mentioned it on the first post about his crash. Either that or they put a rabid raccoon in his car... And a bomb underneath.. Guilty: is what our graves will read, no year no family. We did nothing, to stop the murder of people just like us.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22958406 United States 06/24/2013 06:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Pssst. You know those mandated tire air pressure monitors? Yeah, they offer attackers an easy way into your car's computer. Remote and wireless, never have to touch the car. What do you think that those mysterious car thieves are using to get in? [link to www.today.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25903900 United Kingdom 06/24/2013 06:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you guys think? Was Hastings car hacked? Was it an accident Quoting: manny.goldman The circumstances of Hastings’ death could not be more suspicious. Plenty of people had a motive to kill Hastings, and not just parties in the American government. Private contractors, who do most of the heavy lifting for the NSA, have billions of dollars at stake in the debate about the NSA’s spying program. Another leak could put the entire program at risk. A motive can be clearly established. But what about the means? Would potential assassins risk exposure by using some crude (and easily detected method) such as a car bomb? Utilizing such a method would ensure a lengthy and extensive investigation, something that potential assassins would take care to avoid. There is another way. [link to www.thehappydrone.com] [link to youtu.be] Oh dear... |
manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 06:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256 The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage. Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs... The ECM controls the fuel pump...which is located in the fuel tank. It also controls the high presure fuel injectors and the railings. im sure you could do some damage with those devices, especially on moment of impact. So, moment of impact (a signal in and of itself), throttle the heck out of the fuel pump? I could see how that would work. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 815535 United States 06/24/2013 06:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What do you guys think? Was Hastings car hacked? Was it an accident Quoting: manny.goldman The circumstances of Hastings’ death could not be more suspicious. Plenty of people had a motive to kill Hastings, and not just parties in the American government. Private contractors, who do most of the heavy lifting for the NSA, have billions of dollars at stake in the debate about the NSA’s spying program. Another leak could put the entire program at risk. A motive can be clearly established. But what about the means? Would potential assassins risk exposure by using some crude (and easily detected method) such as a car bomb? Utilizing such a method would ensure a lengthy and extensive investigation, something that potential assassins would take care to avoid. There is another way. [link to www.thehappydrone.com] [link to youtu.be] I highly doubt that he would have an accident an hour after he blew the whistle... |
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manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 06:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter... Well with brain reverse engineering going on, I think tin foils won't be enough. We need better escape plan. "To infinity and beyond!" But seriously, this is all out of control. Hacking cars, brains, living in an Orwellian police state beyond Orwell's imagination...welcome to the future! |
manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/24/2013 06:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does a bear shit in the woods? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22470569 They found his engine 30 to 40 yards away from the car. It blew out. As in EXPLOSION. As in BOMB. When I was a kid, the father of one of my classmates was killed by a car bomb. True story. Mob was big in my little town (in the old days you could walk across the state line to escape arrest.) [grammar edit] Last Edited by manny.goldman on 06/24/2013 06:55 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25903900 United Kingdom 06/24/2013 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter... Well with brain reverse engineering going on, I think tin foils won't be enough. We need better escape plan. "To infinity and beyond!" But seriously, this is all out of control. Hacking cars, brains, living in an Orwellian police state beyond Orwell's imagination...welcome to the future! When I was young, the future included people, but now the future excludes people in adverts. Scary stuff |
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manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/25/2013 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is some serious, wild ass shit!!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13993404 Fuuck. Why bother? Game over man, game over. Big Brother wins... The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than this. You think pervasive surveillance and car hacks are something, just wait, they're coming from your brain: Thread: Ray Kurzweil wants to hack your brain |
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manny.goldman (OP) User ID: 40226436 United States 06/30/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Since last week, the idea that Hastings' car was hacked has hit the mainstream in a big way, I think even Fox News has mentioned the possibility. And of course Richard Clarke came out saying that it was a possibility. Hastings' friends have vowed to get to the bottom of it. I don't know what is going to become of the story...I imagine that it will just lurk in the background after a while, like the DC Madam, Vince Foster, etc., etc.... unless some new information comes forward. |