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Was Hastings' car hacked? It is possible...

 
manny.goldman
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Was Hastings' car hacked? It is possible...
What do you guys think? Was Hastings car hacked? Was it an accident lol

The circumstances of Hastings’ death could not be more suspicious. Plenty of people had a motive to kill Hastings, and not just parties in the American government. Private contractors, who do most of the heavy lifting for the NSA, have billions of dollars at stake in the debate about the NSA’s spying program. Another leak could put the entire program at risk. A motive can be clearly established.

But what about the means? Would potential assassins risk exposure by using some crude (and easily detected method) such as a car bomb? Utilizing such a method would ensure a lengthy and extensive investigation, something that potential assassins would take care to avoid.

There is another way.


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Shameless self-bump for "this could happen to you."

Seriously, another great reason to drive a clunker/old car.
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Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now.

I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper.
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The poor guy died in one of the safest cars ever made...I think it was a 500 series. I think theey have a minimum of 16 airbags! Im sure they they deactivated the seatbelts first and foremost. A fire would have covered up the evidence of non-deployment of airbags because the heat would have acitvated them...
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Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now.

I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper.
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Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure...
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The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was.
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Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now.

I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper.
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Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure...
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Yep, these guys were talking about how the intrusion would not even show up via a bluetooth paring in the device cache!!!
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Wow! I saw the whole vid. They could essentially control every component of the car including the throttle and brakes. If the car had a park assist feature then theoretically, they could steer the car remotely. They demonstrated how they could gps track, pinpoint and listen in via the cars mic. They could introduce the code via bluetooth or thru the cars telnet service, e.g, Onstar or similar since every manufacturer has this as a standard feature now.

I find it interesting that Hasting's mercedes car burst into flames completely destroying all eidence of tamper.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256


Even if it hadn't burst into flames, these car-hacking techniques make it possible to erase all evidence of tampering. But just to be sure...
 Quoting: manny.goldman


Yep, these guys were talking about how the intrusion would not even show up via a bluetooth paring in the device cache!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256


Yep, like stabbing someone with an icicle...the evidence just melts away.
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The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was.
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The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage.

Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs...

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The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was.
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The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage.

Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs...

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The ECM controls the fuel pump...which is located in the fuel tank. It also controls the high presure fuel injectors and the railings. im sure you could do some damage with those devices, especially on moment of impact.
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I highly think his car was hacked. I mentioned it on the first post about his crash. Either that or they put a rabid raccoon in his car... And a bomb underneath..
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Pssst.

You know those mandated tire air pressure monitors? Yeah, they offer attackers an easy way into your car's computer. Remote and wireless, never have to touch the car.

What do you think that those mysterious car thieves are using to get in?

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What do you guys think? Was Hastings car hacked? Was it an accident lol

The circumstances of Hastings’ death could not be more suspicious. Plenty of people had a motive to kill Hastings, and not just parties in the American government. Private contractors, who do most of the heavy lifting for the NSA, have billions of dollars at stake in the debate about the NSA’s spying program. Another leak could put the entire program at risk. A motive can be clearly established.

But what about the means? Would potential assassins risk exposure by using some crude (and easily detected method) such as a car bomb? Utilizing such a method would ensure a lengthy and extensive investigation, something that potential assassins would take care to avoid.

There is another way.


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 Quoting: manny.goldman


Oh dear...bump
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Re: Was Hastings' car hacked? It is possible...
The vid showed how easily they could unlock the doors, overide all security proticols and start the car and drive away without a key all via a smartphone using old unix code, lol. They were joking about just how easy it was.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40379256


The only thing I don't get is how you go from hacking/taking control of the car and making the car explode, though I suppose if you were going fast enough, the collision could do it. I heard somewhere that you would have to be going pretty fast to cause that kind of damage.

Just think when we all have self-driving cars! And big rigs...

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 Quoting: manny.goldman


The ECM controls the fuel pump...which is located in the fuel tank. It also controls the high presure fuel injectors and the railings. im sure you could do some damage with those devices, especially on moment of impact.
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So, moment of impact (a signal in and of itself), throttle the heck out of the fuel pump? I could see how that would work.
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What do you guys think? Was Hastings car hacked? Was it an accident lol

The circumstances of Hastings’ death could not be more suspicious. Plenty of people had a motive to kill Hastings, and not just parties in the American government. Private contractors, who do most of the heavy lifting for the NSA, have billions of dollars at stake in the debate about the NSA’s spying program. Another leak could put the entire program at risk. A motive can be clearly established.

But what about the means? Would potential assassins risk exposure by using some crude (and easily detected method) such as a car bomb? Utilizing such a method would ensure a lengthy and extensive investigation, something that potential assassins would take care to avoid.

There is another way.


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[link to youtu.be]
 Quoting: manny.goldman


I highly doubt that he would have an accident an hour after he blew the whistle...
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Cars will soon need antivirus, like windows.

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Cars will soon need antivirus, like windows.

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If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter...
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Cars will soon need antivirus, like windows.

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If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter...
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Well with brain reverse engineering going on, I think tin foils won't be enough. We need better escape plan.
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Does a bear shit in the woods? rofl


They found his engine 30 to 40 yards away from the car. It blew out. As in EXPLOSION. As in BOMB.
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Cars will soon need antivirus, like windows.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25903900


If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter...
 Quoting: manny.goldman


Well with brain reverse engineering going on, I think tin foils won't be enough. We need better escape plan.
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"To infinity and beyond!"

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But seriously, this is all out of control. Hacking cars, brains, living in an Orwellian police state beyond Orwell's imagination...welcome to the future!
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Does a bear shit in the woods? rofl


They found his engine 30 to 40 yards away from the car. It blew out. As in EXPLOSION. As in BOMB.
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When I was a kid, the father of one of my classmates was killed by a car bomb. True story. Mob was big in my little town (in the old days you could walk across the state line to escape arrest.)

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Cars will soon need antivirus, like windows.

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25903900


If the transhumanists have their way, humans will need anti-virus software. We probably won't even have a choice in the matter...
 Quoting: manny.goldman


Well with brain reverse engineering going on, I think tin foils won't be enough. We need better escape plan.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25903900


"To infinity and beyond!"

banana2

But seriously, this is all out of control. Hacking cars, brains, living in an Orwellian police state beyond Orwell's imagination...welcome to the future!
 Quoting: manny.goldman


When I was young, the future included people, but now the future excludes people in adverts. Scary stuff uhoh

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This is some serious, wild ass shit!!!!

Fuuck. Why bother?

Game over man, game over.

Big Brother wins...
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This is some serious, wild ass shit!!!!

Fuuck. Why bother?

Game over man, game over.

Big Brother wins...
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The rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than this.

You think pervasive surveillance and car hacks are something, just wait, they're coming from your brain:

Thread: Ray Kurzweil wants to hack your brain

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Since last week, the idea that Hastings' car was hacked has hit the mainstream in a big way, I think even Fox News has mentioned the possibility. And of course Richard Clarke came out saying that it was a possibility. Hastings' friends have vowed to get to the bottom of it. I don't know what is going to become of the story...I imagine that it will just lurk in the background after a while, like the DC Madam, Vince Foster, etc., etc.... unless some new information comes forward.





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