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Daniel P. Schrag, a White House climate adviser and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, tells the New York Times "a war on coal is exactly what's needed." Later today, President Obama will give a major "climate change" address at Georgetown University.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” Schrag tells the paper. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”

Obama's speech today is expected to offer "a sweeping plan to address climate change on Tuesday, setting ambitious goals and timetables for a series of executive actions to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and prepare the nation for the ravages of a warming planet," according to the Times.

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Guess they expect half the Country to sit in the dark, till they can find a way to replace what powers 50% of our homes.
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Yea, ditch coal. We need more room to build nuclear power plants.
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Let's get this straight...they are shutting down nuclear plants at an alarming rate and no new plans to build one are on the books for over two decades. They won't drill in this country and make it a absolute bear to get permits to drill PERIOD. Coal sucks and they want them gone too.


But want us to pedal around using these fucking shit box electric cars that have NO FUCKING PLACE TO PLUG INTO BECAUSE THEY BASTARDIZED THAT TOO!


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No we need a War against the Energy Cartel and the Governments that protect them.
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Re: White House: 'A War on Coal Is Exactly What’s Needed'
You guys have to understand that we are nearing the age of Nanotechology.


We will no longer be dependent or pegged to this Petro Economy.


Because we will use Nano Machines to copy the Photosynthesis of plants. And it will be much much more efficient.



Its economics that keeps us static using the same systems.

Not our Advancement in tech.


We are well beyond gas and coal.


But everything is Classified under the invention secrecy act to keep the current economic hegemony stable.
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You guys have to understand that we are nearing the age of Nanotechology.


We will no longer be dependent or pegged to this Petro Economy.


Because we will use Nano Machines to copy the Photosynthesis of plants. And it will be much much more efficient.



Its economics that keeps us static using the same systems.

Not our Advancement in tech.


We are well beyond gas and coal.


But everything is Classified under the invention secrecy act to keep the current economic hegemony stable.
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Then why push us towards these electric bullshit cars??

They have no damn plan or a clue!
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Guess they expect half the Country to sit in the dark, till they can find a way to replace what powers 50% of our homes.
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politicians

they burn with a bright white heat, and last for years and years, what with the useless gas build up they accumulate through the years
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Re: White House: 'A War on Coal Is Exactly What’s Needed'
You guys have to understand that we are nearing the age of Nanotechology.


We will no longer be dependent or pegged to this Petro Economy.


Because we will use Nano Machines to copy the Photosynthesis of plants. And it will be much much more efficient.



Its economics that keeps us static using the same systems.

Not our Advancement in tech.


We are well beyond gas and coal.


But everything is Classified under the invention secrecy act to keep the current economic hegemony stable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


yawn

yeah, keep it all under wraps, while we all perish in global superstorms and intense ice ages

must keep the 'economic hegemony stable'

rofl
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Daniel P. Schrag, a White House climate adviser and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, tells the New York Times "a war on coal is exactly what's needed." Later today, President Obama will give a major "climate change" address at Georgetown University.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” Schrag tells the paper. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”

Obama's speech today is expected to offer "a sweeping plan to address climate change on Tuesday, setting ambitious goals and timetables for a series of executive actions to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and prepare the nation for the ravages of a warming planet," according to the Times.

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
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Coal is a terrible industry.

Knuckle draggers from the back woods in West Virginia are not going to stop progress to new, cleaner technology. One of the results of moving forward on those technologies is shuttering the very worst of the old ones.

Coal looms large on the list of terribly destructive means to fuel.
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Yay! War on another noun! They always work so well, these wars on nouns.
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Those defending Obama's war on coal are either shills or just outright dumb.

Obama and those he works for have suppressed free energy for 100 years!

They want to CONTROL you! Controlling coal is just another way to destroy the country when everybody else burns coal without ANY scrubbers!

But that's the point! Tax carbon even though we need more carbon dioxide because the plants are starved for it!

It's all a scam and you gov shills and obama idiots are working for Satan by pushing this baby killer and his attempts to destroy what's left of the US!
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I'm sitting here with my air conditioner running because it's damned hot and this climate crap they are talking about depresses me. One way or another I bet we all get a unmerciful butt fucking in our monthly electric bills down the road.
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No we need a War against the Energy Cartel and the Governments that protect them.
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This is just another episode of madness a la "Memoirs of Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds"

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I kid you not.

People go mad in groups but return to sanity only one at a time.

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Daniel P. Schrag, a White House climate adviser and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, tells the New York Times "a war on coal is exactly what's needed." Later today, President Obama will give a major "climate change" address at Georgetown University.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” Schrag tells the paper. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”

Obama's speech today is expected to offer "a sweeping plan to address climate change on Tuesday, setting ambitious goals and timetables for a series of executive actions to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and prepare the nation for the ravages of a warming planet," according to the Times.

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
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Here in the Pacific NW we are fighting to prevent the coal terminals and coal trains from happening. If Obama means what he is saying, our fight is over. He always does the exact opposite.
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Guess they expect half the Country to sit in the dark, till they can find a way to replace what powers 50% of our homes.
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Exactly. What is their plan? Burn all those soon-to-be worthless dollars that Ben is printing?
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"Clean Coal" is the cleanest and cheapest form of energy in the world. The only pollution is CO2..."What the plants want"!

This "war" will just lead us into another Enron type scenario. The Whitehouse thinks we're all retarded. Er...scuse me the Whitehouse knows for a fact it's own supporters are retarded...and basically attacks the rest of us for having a brain.
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Daniel P. Schrag, a White House climate adviser and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, tells the New York Times "a war on coal is exactly what's needed." Later today, President Obama will give a major "climate change" address at Georgetown University.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” Schrag tells the paper. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”

Obama's speech today is expected to offer "a sweeping plan to address climate change on Tuesday, setting ambitious goals and timetables for a series of executive actions to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and prepare the nation for the ravages of a warming planet," according to the Times.

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
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Here in the Pacific NW we are fighting to prevent the coal terminals and coal trains from happening. If Obama means what he is saying, our fight is over. He always does the exact opposite.
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Likely the terminals will be up in Canada. SeaSpan is building some major port facilities in the Vancouver area.
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Yay! War on another noun! They always work so well, these wars on nouns.
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"Clean Coal" is the cleanest and cheapest form of energy in the world. The only pollution is CO2..."What the plants want"!

This "war" will just lead us into another Enron type scenario. The Whitehouse thinks we're all retarded. Er...scuse me the Whitehouse knows for a fact it's own supporters are retarded...and basically attacks the rest of us for having a brain.
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Guess they expect half the Country to sit in the dark, till they can find a way to replace what powers 50% of our homes.
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I feel sorry for the people who live in hot climates? Holy shit, this may be the straw which breaks the camel's back...
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any time I hear the government say they are going to have a "war on (insert blah blah)" then I know it's :bs:



that being said...mining is such an eye sore and truly destruction of our planet. I understand it importance so you wont see me picketing against it but damn...there has to be a better way.
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Daniel P. Schrag, a White House climate adviser and director of the Harvard University Center for the Environment, tells the New York Times "a war on coal is exactly what's needed." Later today, President Obama will give a major "climate change" address at Georgetown University.

“Everybody is waiting for action,” Schrag tells the paper. “The one thing the president really needs to do now is to begin the process of shutting down the conventional coal plants. Politically, the White House is hesitant to say they’re having a war on coal. On the other hand, a war on coal is exactly what’s needed.”

Obama's speech today is expected to offer "a sweeping plan to address climate change on Tuesday, setting ambitious goals and timetables for a series of executive actions to reduce greenhouse gas pollution and prepare the nation for the ravages of a warming planet," according to the Times.

[link to www.weeklystandard.com]
 Quoting: strikeforce1


Here in the Pacific NW we are fighting to prevent the coal terminals and coal trains from happening. If Obama means what he is saying, our fight is over. He always does the exact opposite.
 Quoting: Janine69


Likely the terminals will be up in Canada. SeaSpan is building some major port facilities in the Vancouver area.
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I hope not. Bellingham would be forced to allow a dozen, mile long trains through town all day and night spreading toxic dust.
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translation "they- want more coal"
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translation "they- want more coal"
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I dont know AC.
So many mines have closed or cut back here in Kentucky that many are already hurting in a big way.
Various reasons for lay offs from cutting back to just to costly to meet regulations coming into effect.Electricity bills will continue to go up.Coal may be nasty but its very needed.
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War on affordable energy, war on you and I is what he was really saying.

The destruction of America is almost complete.
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I'm sitting here with my air conditioner running because it's damned hot and this climate crap they are talking about depresses me. One way or another I bet we all get a unmerciful butt fucking in our monthly electric bills down the road.
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That be da plan, Stan.
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You guys have to understand that we are nearing the age of Nanotechology.


We will no longer be dependent or pegged to this Petro Economy.


Because we will use Nano Machines to copy the Photosynthesis of plants. And it will be much much more efficient.



Its economics that keeps us static using the same systems.

Not our Advancement in tech.


We are well beyond gas and coal.


But everything is Classified under the invention secrecy act to keep the current economic hegemony stable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069



Are you prepared to hold your breath until it happens? While you are at it, are you also prepared to do without showers, your morning coffee, driving into work though you wouldn't have a job, no TV, no radio, no phones, no computers, no light, no air conditioniong, no heater, no hot water, no cold water, no water at all? Just so you can say that it is better that we lower the CO2 levels to where plants can no longer live and provide the necessary food for continual life? The higher the CO2, the more plants like it. The more plants like it, the more food that grows, the better the chance for life. Or do you propose ending life as we know it, just so that we don't burn up in a runaway jungle?
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Who needs electricity anyway,its so passé.
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You guys have to understand that we are nearing the age of Nanotechology.


We will no longer be dependent or pegged to this Petro Economy.


Because we will use Nano Machines to copy the Photosynthesis of plants. And it will be much much more efficient.



Its economics that keeps us static using the same systems.

Not our Advancement in tech.


We are well beyond gas and coal.


But everything is Classified under the invention secrecy act to keep the current economic hegemony stable.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15740069


Then why push us towards these electric bullshit cars??

They have no damn plan or a clue!
 Quoting: ****SUPERFLY****



Its simple.

They only care about the Continuation of their Cartel.

If you are not paying for Oil they want it setup so you are paying for the Electricity.

But they will be using essentially free energy systems to get this power they sell to you.

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