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Must have been all those years of catholic school .... you are right...If I would have remained "in the path" I would be much better at HATING AND DESCRIMINATING......
 Quoting: ElsieKow


I'm not a Catholic - never was - never will be!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


So - what does your Bible say that mine did not? I did not read every post so I must have missed something?

Anyway....I had this article tagged by a friend - fun read...

11 Things The Bible Bans, But You Do Anyway
[link to www.11points.com]

LOOK AROUND YOU PEOPLE - the problem are not homosexulas, abortionists, pot heads, muslims, racial slurring chefs.... (OK - just picking a few popular stereotypes)

The PROBLEM is the greedy bastards out there that are runing our planet resorces, abusing and impoverishing those less fortunate or with less rousources, eslaving the avrage hard working Americans (yep - I will take that angle but it goes for all natons), installing fear, poisoning our minds and bodies in the name of GREED & POWER

LETS JUST BE NICE TO ONE ANOTHER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT TO A BETTER WY OF LIFE!! That is what your JESUS would have done .... and sit down for a good meal and turn a little water into wine....Same guy that said to give ups ones riches and follow him (like to see a few politicians play that card)

In any case....may the first one of you that will be DIRECTLY AFFECTED by Gay Marriage cast the first stone! ...and please eleborate how and WHY????

Makes me wonder....
One of the nicest comunities in my area with great schools, clean, safe, great restaurants... is mostly populated by the homosexual community....if we cannot give them the CIVIL RIGHTS they ask for...maybe we should NOT BE TAKING THEIRE TAX DOLLARS as well..... Just saying....

Sad to think us "Ateists" have more common sense and good will towards men than those of you hiding and quoting VERBATUM your scriptures....You have to admit that some books of the Bible make Dianetics and The Book of Mormon look like they were actually written by sane people....crap - no offense to some of you.....I am sure Ron and Joseph were firing on all cylinders when they came up with their little literary gems......
 Quoting: ElsieKow


I am not wasting my time reading nonsense. You are not going to convince me that the Homosexual lifestyle is normal.

Repent of your sins and the Lord will gladly forgive you. I mean that from my heart and I am not judging you.
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....yup....and that is why people like you are who they are...go hide back inside your interpretations of the scriptures...inside your little box of fear & hate...wait for hell, fire and damnation....cannot expect people like you to try snd make the world a BETTER PLACE....

....sleep with one eye open from now on...a big scarry gay couple may come to you at night like the boogeyman...OH NO...maybe it's contagiopus...PANDEMONIUM!!!
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1. Animals or a lower form of Life.
2. Animals were never given Souls.
3. Animals have no sense of Reason.
4. Animals are incapable of establishing Right from Wrong.

1. Humans area Higher form of Life.
2. Humans were granted Souls.
3. Humans were granted a sense of Reason.
4. Humans are capable of establishing Right from Wrong.
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If animals cannot reason, then that means they operate based only on instincts. WHY would their instincts guide certain members of the species to engage in homosexual behavior? Who/What designed or created them to exhibit these instincts? Or would you suggest that animals invent their own behaviors even though you claim they have no sense of reasoning? That would be a contradiction.

P.S. you cannot prove the assertion that animals do not have souls/spirit. The spirit is the energy that animates the physical vessel. Without that spiritual energy there could be no animation of the physical flesh (of anything). There are NDE accounts of individuals (including children) observing animals in their 'afterlife' experiences as well as many accounts of supernatural experiences involving individuals having interaction with deceased pets while here on the physical plane. I think you should do more investigating and reexamine your assumptions.
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I posted this before and I got a lot of response so here it is again:

Like I have posted many times before the USA will go down Sodom and Gomorrah style in a little over 2 years from now.

So for that to happen they will be just like Sodom and Gomorrah when that time comes, or their judgment would not be just. Prophecy will be fulfilled right on schedule.

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I'm sure things are planned by the elite who wrote the bible, but please don't say it's God's prophecy! God had no hand in writing the modern bible we know of today.

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Hmmm - If the elite wrote the bible as you have suggested why do they loose in the end? They need better script writers. chuckle

So, let me get this right - God had no hand in writing the bible (His Word)? Then God must be a liar using your logic b/c He says otherwise. I think I'll believe God and not you on this one.

:Allscripture:
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Why? Why is it that people blame god for every bad thing that happens on earth. Tornados , earthquakes , shootings , disease , famine , all incidents that take the life of innocent people and "you" say God how can you let this happen!? People will loose faith over such, soliders say they don't believe in a god that would let such horrible things happen that they see and do.... Now they remove god from schools ,bases ,culture and still you say here look at the gay animals, look at the hate and corruption look at the social divide look at the poor look at the sick where is god? Let me tell u a little secret hiding in plain sight. This is the devils world, and his minions run it.
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Whenever a empire reaches its conclusion, one of the more peculiar symptoms preceding its end appears to be the popularisation of homosexuality. Both the Roman empire and the Greek reign ended with this phenomenon being prevalent. History shows that overwhelming sexual pervetsity can, and most likely will, arise when man abandons God's will and fellowship with his Maker, and starts making up his own rules.  Whatever the 'technical' explanation might be for the homosexual phenomenon, there is no doubt it mostly occurs when the prevailing culture leaves God out of the picture and starts worshipping the creature in place of the Creator. It is reprobation, His wrath poured out on all the godlessness and wickedness of people who suppress the truth by their wickedness, since what may be known about God is plain to them, because God has made it plain to them. Wrath is on those who suppresd the truth by their wickedness - they want the wickedness and so they suppress the truth of God in order to do that wickedness.

And our countries courts and churches are making friends with that wrath instead of dropping to their knees in repentance. We are, as a nation, accepting the fruits of wrath as normalcy, not understanding the end result: "Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy. Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them."

We all see that those final characteristics are in full view in the western nations. When will we willingly stop choosing this course for ourselves and our children and grandchildren? Why are we embracing the fruits of wrath instead of the fruits of His Spirit - mercy, love, joy, long suffering, patience, kindness...? Surely nobody wants the former but the latter? The western nations simply tuned into the largest pulpit in the world - the media - and we're overcome by the love of the flesh. We were all told that that old serpent is unbound at the end of the millennium to deceive the nations.
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So now that we - the queers - are obviously winning, can you fucks move to Iran or Russia? I'm pretty sure this country will be fine without all the bigots.
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It's a victory alright, for the lawyers. Now they have double the clientele in divorce cases.

And the stupid gays thought the lawyers cared about their civil rights!!!!

cruise
 Quoting: chuckles 2417276


there is more wisdom in your statement than you may or may no realize. I lol at the morons on TV smiling ear to ear because now the state gets to regulate their private life and hand them a welfare check. Little do they realize that they had wayyy more freedom just living together minding their own business instead of this retarded charade to force this crap down america's throat.
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You are most probably right. I will tell you though, there is for both gay and straight couples, a certain gravitas afforded to "my spouse" as opposed to "my lover or my boyfriend/girlfriend" that some people value. I have been told by some married friends that the marriage commitment sends a relationship to an entirely different level of seriousness, commitment and intimacy. YMMV
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I don't get it, does the state own a monopoly on the words spouse? husband? wife? in other words people married themselves before God WAYYYYYYY before any government creton decided to cash in on it. Why should that stop does who want to marry today? be it before God or not?
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Nothing new, remember American... Thanksgiving is Thor-day tptb worships.

They had sneak abomination filths right under your noses slowly but surely.
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Seems that the Russians agree with you TW

Thread: Russian Paper Says “Weak Eyed Obama” Is Leader Of Sodom & Gomorrah Following G8 Summit
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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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I'm not a Catholic - never was - never will be!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


So - what does your Bible say that mine did not? I did not read every post so I must have missed something?

Anyway....I had this article tagged by a friend - fun read...

11 Things The Bible Bans, But You Do Anyway
[link to www.11points.com]

LOOK AROUND YOU PEOPLE - the problem are not homosexulas, abortionists, pot heads, muslims, racial slurring chefs.... (OK - just picking a few popular stereotypes)

The PROBLEM is the greedy bastards out there that are runing our planet resorces, abusing and impoverishing those less fortunate or with less rousources, eslaving the avrage hard working Americans (yep - I will take that angle but it goes for all natons), installing fear, poisoning our minds and bodies in the name of GREED & POWER

LETS JUST BE NICE TO ONE ANOTHER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT TO A BETTER WY OF LIFE!! That is what your JESUS would have done .... and sit down for a good meal and turn a little water into wine....Same guy that said to give ups ones riches and follow him (like to see a few politicians play that card)

In any case....may the first one of you that will be DIRECTLY AFFECTED by Gay Marriage cast the first stone! ...and please eleborate how and WHY????

Makes me wonder....
One of the nicest comunities in my area with great schools, clean, safe, great restaurants... is mostly populated by the homosexual community....if we cannot give them the CIVIL RIGHTS they ask for...maybe we should NOT BE TAKING THEIRE TAX DOLLARS as well..... Just saying....

Sad to think us "Ateists" have more common sense and good will towards men than those of you hiding and quoting VERBATUM your scriptures....You have to admit that some books of the Bible make Dianetics and The Book of Mormon look like they were actually written by sane people....crap - no offense to some of you.....I am sure Ron and Joseph were firing on all cylinders when they came up with their little literary gems......
 Quoting: ElsieKow


I am not wasting my time reading nonsense. You are not going to convince me that the Homosexual lifestyle is normal.

Repent of your sins and the Lord will gladly forgive you. I mean that from my heart and I am not judging you.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


....yup....and that is why people like you are who they are...go hide back inside your interpretations of the scriptures...inside your little box of fear & hate...wait for hell, fire and damnation....cannot expect people like you to try snd make the world a BETTER PLACE....

....sleep with one eye open from now on...a big scarry gay couple may come to you at night like the boogeyman...OH NO...maybe it's contagiopus...PANDEMONIUM!!!
 Quoting: ElsieKow


Are you mad b/c I won't condone your Homosexual agenda? You can do as you please with your life, but don't promote your perverted lifestyle on my kids or my grandkids!
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clappa

What a filthy cunts tptb had turn your country into.
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What better proof is there then the Word of God?
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NATURE
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Why don't you ask 'God' why homosexual behavior has been well documented in over 450 species of the animal kingdom. Ask him why he designed the animals to also engage in this type of behavior if it's such a deplorable 'sin'. Let us know when you get a response and we can continue the debate.

[link to www.yalescientific.org]

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

[link to www.nytimes.com]

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Oh and in case anyone feels inclined to dismiss these articles as 'propaganda' or part of an agenda, you can view the 'evidence' for yourself with your own eyes in this documentary:

Out In Nature (Part 1 of 6):

[link to www.youtube.com]

So what I'd like to know is will 'God' also be punishing these animals for their 'sin' when they die as well? Or are humans somehow deemed separate from nature and the rest of 'God's' design/creation?

Let me know when you figure it out.
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Because we are not on the same level as animals. We are higher.
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Why do the animals engage in this type of behavior?
Who/what designed/created them to act in this manner?
What purpose does it serve in the ecosystem?

I was looking for specific answers unfortunately, not simply that 'humans are more important'.
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mental illness is ...
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Abomination filth is a disorder and can be cured

But the fags don't wanna be cured and tptb agreed.
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It's a victory alright, for the lawyers. Now they have double the clientele in divorce cases.

And the stupid gays thought the lawyers cared about their civil rights!!!!

cruise
 Quoting: chuckles 2417276


there is more wisdom in your statement than you may or may no realize. I lol at the morons on TV smiling ear to ear because now the state gets to regulate their private life and hand them a welfare check. Little do they realize that they had wayyy more freedom just living together minding their own business instead of this retarded charade to force this crap down america's throat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5573929


You are most probably right. I will tell you though, there is for both gay and straight couples, a certain gravitas afforded to "my spouse" as opposed to "my lover or my boyfriend/girlfriend" that some people value. I have been told by some married friends that the marriage commitment sends a relationship to an entirely different level of seriousness, commitment and intimacy. YMMV
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I don't get it, does the state own a monopoly on the words spouse? husband? wife? in other words people married themselves before God WAYYYYYYY before any government creton decided to cash in on it. Why should that stop does who want to marry today? be it before God or not?
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Because its immoral!
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Do you realize that Pravda.ru is the news website of the Communist Party of Russia? Pravda was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's newspaper for most of its existence, and after the USSR dissolved, the Russian Communist Party bought it from the government.

Essentially, you are agreeing with communists when you agree with Pravda. They don't allow reports by people who aren't in the Russian Communist Party.

How does that make you feel?
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Do you realize that Pravda.ru is the news website of the Communist Party of Russia? Pravda was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's newspaper for most of its existence, and after the USSR dissolved, the Russian Communist Party bought it from the government.

Essentially, you are agreeing with communists when you agree with Pravda. They don't allow reports by people who aren't in the Russian Communist Party.

How does that make you feel?
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No different than if they reported that the sun rose today and I agreed with them
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or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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It's a victory alright, for the lawyers. Now they have double the clientele in divorce cases.

And the stupid gays thought the lawyers cared about their civil rights!!!!

cruise
 Quoting: chuckles 2417276


there is more wisdom in your statement than you may or may no realize. I lol at the morons on TV smiling ear to ear because now the state gets to regulate their private life and hand them a welfare check. Little do they realize that they had wayyy more freedom just living together minding their own business instead of this retarded charade to force this crap down america's throat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5573929


You are most probably right. I will tell you though, there is for both gay and straight couples, a certain gravitas afforded to "my spouse" as opposed to "my lover or my boyfriend/girlfriend" that some people value. I have been told by some married friends that the marriage commitment sends a relationship to an entirely different level of seriousness, commitment and intimacy. YMMV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41022661


I don't get it, does the state own a monopoly on the words spouse? husband? wife? in other words people married themselves before God WAYYYYYYY before any government creton decided to cash in on it. Why should that stop does who want to marry today? be it before God or not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5573929


Because people like to use religion as a way to coerce and control those around them.

In my mistaken view of marriage...my spouse and I married becasue we LOVED each other and because we wanted a life together. The CIVIL aspect to the marriage - aka - the paperwork - gave us rights and responsibilities on each other and protections for what we have chosen to be our family....
Gay couples were asking for the same rights and protections. They share homes, properties, sometimes children....they want to share benefits in the sytem as any couple who shares a household and PAYS their taxes and premiums. They wanted the legal right to be NEXT OF KIN when their partners are in deaths door at a hospital, to be with them in their final moments...

This is the only factor that is relevant! Some gentlemen preffer blondes....some gentlemen preffer BOB...whoop dee doo...Live and let live....
Elsie
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Thanks Rev

If somebody would have told me 30 years ago that we would even be discussing this I would have called them crazy. I suppose that's what happens when you kick God out of your country.

May God have mercy on us all!

hfhf
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Do you realize that Pravda.ru is the news website of the Communist Party of Russia? Pravda was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's newspaper for most of its existence, and after the USSR dissolved, the Russian Communist Party bought it from the government.

Essentially, you are agreeing with communists when you agree with Pravda. They don't allow reports by people who aren't in the Russian Communist Party.

How does that make you feel?
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Anything to derailed God forsaken holy word?.

Filthy shit are still not welcome anywhere on planet earth.
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clappa

What a filthy cunts tptb had turn your country into.
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And are still!
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I'm glad most Americans are in favor of gay marriage and it's only you conspiracy nut Jesusites that are opposed.

Someday I will be able to marry the person I love and there won't be a damn thing any of you can do about it. ;3
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Some kid (I'm too lazy to sort shit out of of that quote) stated:

"Why don't you ask 'God' why homosexual behavior has been well documented in over 450 species of the animal kingdom. Ask him why he designed the animals to also engage in this type of behavior if it's such a deplorable 'sin'. Let us know when you get a response and we can continue the debate."


I don't need to ask God, but simply use my brain and thus, logic: Since no fag is "born this way", animals aren't, either.
Fags are fags due to a previous "impulse", an external manipulation at some point.
So IF any animal (and I woulde yet have to see one with my own eyes) WOULD "be gay", then it'd be based on the exact same factor: External manipulation.

So you won't have to ask God about that one, but I strongly advice you to ask God for some help opening your eyes and you being able to use your brain.
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I posted a video where you can see it with your own eyes, the documentary 'Out In Nature'. So at least 450 different species have been 'externally manipulated' to engage in same-sex behavior? Can you tell me how animals are manipulated in nature to engage in that type of behavior? Your answer was vague and insufficient but I appreciate you at least responding.

Speaking of using one's brain. The ecosystem is very fragile and delicate. There must be a balance that is maintained among the species & food chain in order to maintain a healthy/functioning ecosystem. If one species were to over-populate and deplete its resources and natural prey, it would serve to potentially create catastrophic changes in the ecosystem that lead to extinctions and disruption of the balance that the ecosystem requires to maintain itself. So what kind of natural mechanism could be built into the design of various species to control for the rate of population growth within said species?

hmm
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My dog humps a sofa or a person because it is pleasurable. Herein is your answer. Now, my dog has no higher conscience to not engage in base carnal instincts which are pleasurable, but I do, because I am a human endowed with a conscience. Using the animal kingdom to justify sexual lust and desire is such a poor excuse for a human being. My dog eats his vomit, so will you use that reason to justify eating your own vomit? My dog eats cat poo, so will you use that reason to justify why you want to eat poo?. Dogs hump because they want too, and yet, humans have decided to treat humping in the exact same way to such detrimental effects. Is 4,000 murders a day in the USA not enough to get it through our heads that uncontrolled sexuality has life and death consequences for others? Is thousands of missing kids, child porn, rapes, etc not enough to get it in our heads that uncontrolled sexuality has horrendous consequences to the lives of people. But the problem is, many no longer care about anyone else because their highest priority is pleasure, just like the dog. You are not an animal therefore please stop using what animals do to justify human behaviour and human responsibility.
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there is more wisdom in your statement than you may or may no realize. I lol at the morons on TV smiling ear to ear because now the state gets to regulate their private life and hand them a welfare check. Little do they realize that they had wayyy more freedom just living together minding their own business instead of this retarded charade to force this crap down america's throat.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5573929


You are most probably right. I will tell you though, there is for both gay and straight couples, a certain gravitas afforded to "my spouse" as opposed to "my lover or my boyfriend/girlfriend" that some people value. I have been told by some married friends that the marriage commitment sends a relationship to an entirely different level of seriousness, commitment and intimacy. YMMV
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41022661


I don't get it, does the state own a monopoly on the words spouse? husband? wife? in other words people married themselves before God WAYYYYYYY before any government creton decided to cash in on it. Why should that stop does who want to marry today? be it before God or not?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5573929


Because people like to use religion as a way to coerce and control those around them.

In my mistaken view of marriage...my spouse and I married becasue we LOVED each other and because we wanted a life together. The CIVIL aspect to the marriage - aka - the paperwork - gave us rights and responsibilities on each other and protections for what we have chosen to be our family....
Gay couples were asking for the same rights and protections. They share homes, properties, sometimes children....they want to share benefits in the sytem as any couple who shares a household and PAYS their taxes and premiums. They wanted the legal right to be NEXT OF KIN when their partners are in deaths door at a hospital, to be with them in their final moments...

This is the only factor that is relevant! Some gentlemen preffer blondes....some gentlemen preffer BOB...whoop dee doo...Live and let live....
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And according to you some gentlemen prefer gentlemen to have sex with and marry and that is perfectly normal to you.

Maybe you are all normal and its us that are crazy!

:bless95:
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You are most probably right. I will tell you though, there is for both gay and straight couples, a certain gravitas afforded to "my spouse" as opposed to "my lover or my boyfriend/girlfriend" that some people value. I have been told by some married friends that the marriage commitment sends a relationship to an entirely different level of seriousness, commitment and intimacy. YMMV
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I don't get it, does the state own a monopoly on the words spouse? husband? wife? in other words people married themselves before God WAYYYYYYY before any government creton decided to cash in on it. Why should that stop does who want to marry today? be it before God or not?
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Because people like to use religion as a way to coerce and control those around them.

In my mistaken view of marriage...my spouse and I married becasue we LOVED each other and because we wanted a life together. The CIVIL aspect to the marriage - aka - the paperwork - gave us rights and responsibilities on each other and protections for what we have chosen to be our family....
Gay couples were asking for the same rights and protections. They share homes, properties, sometimes children....they want to share benefits in the sytem as any couple who shares a household and PAYS their taxes and premiums. They wanted the legal right to be NEXT OF KIN when their partners are in deaths door at a hospital, to be with them in their final moments...

This is the only factor that is relevant! Some gentlemen preffer blondes....some gentlemen preffer BOB...whoop dee doo...Live and let live....
 Quoting: ElsieKow


And according to you some gentlemen prefer gentlemen to have sex with and marry and that is perfectly normal to you.

Maybe you are all normal and its us that are crazy!

:bless95:
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...

Let me put this the best way I can.

Gay happens. In humans, it happens in about 5% to 8% of us. We aren't trying to convert you. We don't want you or any of your family to 'join us'. We don't even believe that is possible.

Literally the only things I (and people like me) want is the freedom to marry those we love and to not be discriminated against.

That is the gay agenda. Freedom. If you don't like that, yeah, you can run to the Russia you all seem to love so much – I'm sure they have enough 'freedom' for your taste (very little). Me personally, I'm a proud American and I will be a proud American until the day I die.
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LOL @ God's law. Is God really some bearded guy in the sky for you people? And a rapture where all the "good" christians get taken to the paradise in the sky? How can you not realize how rediculous this all sounds...People like you make my hope for humanity falter. :(: wtf:
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Do you realize that Pravda.ru is the news website of the Communist Party of Russia? Pravda was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's newspaper for most of its existence, and after the USSR dissolved, the Russian Communist Party bought it from the government.

Essentially, you are agreeing with communists when you agree with Pravda. They don't allow reports by people who aren't in the Russian Communist Party.

How does that make you feel?
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Anything to derailed God forsaken holy word?.

Filthy shit are still not welcome anywhere on planet earth.
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We are just sick and tired of it being pushed down our throats and taught to our kids as normal and even encouraged. If you wanna make-out with your gay lover do it in privant and not in front of young children.
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Do you realize that Pravda.ru is the news website of the Communist Party of Russia? Pravda was the Communist Party of the Soviet Union's newspaper for most of its existence, and after the USSR dissolved, the Russian Communist Party bought it from the government.

Essentially, you are agreeing with communists when you agree with Pravda. They don't allow reports by people who aren't in the Russian Communist Party.

How does that make you feel?
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Anything to derailed God forsaken holy word?.

Filthy shit are still not welcome anywhere on planet earth.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1485824


We are just sick and tired of it being pushed down our throats and taught to our kids as normal and even encouraged. If you wanna make-out with your gay lover do it in privant and not in front of young children.
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Let us marry and be free to receive housing and employment without fear of being removed because of who we are. We will stop talking. There will be nothing to talk about. We can then focus on just living, because we will have the rights we desire. That's all. If you want to stop hearing about TEH GAYZ so much, give us our freedom and then you won't have to anymore.

Simple, no? I think that's fair.
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So - what does your Bible say that mine did not? I did not read every post so I must have missed something?

Anyway....I had this article tagged by a friend - fun read...

11 Things The Bible Bans, But You Do Anyway
[link to www.11points.com]

LOOK AROUND YOU PEOPLE - the problem are not homosexulas, abortionists, pot heads, muslims, racial slurring chefs.... (OK - just picking a few popular stereotypes)

The PROBLEM is the greedy bastards out there that are runing our planet resorces, abusing and impoverishing those less fortunate or with less rousources, eslaving the avrage hard working Americans (yep - I will take that angle but it goes for all natons), installing fear, poisoning our minds and bodies in the name of GREED & POWER

LETS JUST BE NICE TO ONE ANOTHER AND HELP EACH OTHER OUT TO A BETTER WY OF LIFE!! That is what your JESUS would have done .... and sit down for a good meal and turn a little water into wine....Same guy that said to give ups ones riches and follow him (like to see a few politicians play that card)

In any case....may the first one of you that will be DIRECTLY AFFECTED by Gay Marriage cast the first stone! ...and please eleborate how and WHY????

Makes me wonder....
One of the nicest comunities in my area with great schools, clean, safe, great restaurants... is mostly populated by the homosexual community....if we cannot give them the CIVIL RIGHTS they ask for...maybe we should NOT BE TAKING THEIRE TAX DOLLARS as well..... Just saying....

Sad to think us "Ateists" have more common sense and good will towards men than those of you hiding and quoting VERBATUM your scriptures....You have to admit that some books of the Bible make Dianetics and The Book of Mormon look like they were actually written by sane people....crap - no offense to some of you.....I am sure Ron and Joseph were firing on all cylinders when they came up with their little literary gems......
 Quoting: ElsieKow


I am not wasting my time reading nonsense. You are not going to convince me that the Homosexual lifestyle is normal.

Repent of your sins and the Lord will gladly forgive you. I mean that from my heart and I am not judging you.
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


....yup....and that is why people like you are who they are...go hide back inside your interpretations of the scriptures...inside your little box of fear & hate...wait for hell, fire and damnation....cannot expect people like you to try snd make the world a BETTER PLACE....

....sleep with one eye open from now on...a big scarry gay couple may come to you at night like the boogeyman...OH NO...maybe it's contagiopus...PANDEMONIUM!!!
 Quoting: ElsieKow


Are you mad b/c I won't condone your Homosexual agenda? You can do as you please with your life, but don't promote your perverted lifestyle on my kids or my grandkids!
 Quoting: Troubled Waters...


Not mad - but why the hate?? Why cannot two people that love each other share a home and civil rights - they are are tax payers like you and me, they love their spouses...how would you feel if a hopital said you were not allowed to be with your "spouse" in their last hours because you are not a next of kin, because the state you apy taxes to did not allow you to be a legal partner to the person you loved to give you that legal right?? That is the core of this marriage issue - forget the sex issue - it's ridiculous - I am surrounded by gay people everyday, so is my son, and hell - if he turns out gay - so be it - at least he will call his mother more often than 3/4 of the straight guys I know.
It is not perverted - plenty of "straight" men out there enjoy taking it up ***** and Do you know any gut who does not like to get a B*** J***?? I mean other than that - what is the difference?? I know so many great people in long loving LONG TERM homosexual relationships and it pains me that they have not rights?? I know gay couples with adopted children who are wonderful parents - because they WANT to be

So many heterosexuals treat marriage (and parenthood)like it's just another day at the beach - get married, get divorced, find another tissue in the box and do it again - and THEY have the right to get married.
Once upon a time - people thought that the union of a black person with a white person was also an abomination and a perversion our kids should not be expossed to...we have come a long way fromn that! If we just take the time to look at one another as people, with feelings and needs and not what is in the outside - you will understand that is all that really matters.

I guess in the end - I do have a hard time seeing it in your point of view but I understand that is how you have been raised, etc BUT
CIVIL unions-marriage really should have nothing to do with religion-marriage...we are a nation of MANY religions and MANY cultures

....maybe we should not call it marriage at all.....

But to call America Sodom and Gomorrah beacause of it - really??
Elsie
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LOL @ God's law. Is God really some bearded guy in the sky for you people? And a rapture where all the "good" christians get taken to the paradise in the sky? How can you not realize how rediculous this all sounds...People like you make my hope for humanity falter. :(: wtf:
 Quoting: Lucidvisions


Yes, God and his Word (the Bible) is so ridiculous we don't even care if it keeps coming true or not - we just won't believe it.

Believe who you wanna believe I'll believe the Lord!
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the supreme court is the pharisees of our day.
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Authority of marriage belongs to the Creator.. That I can agree with.





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