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West Hartford Courant: Governor Malloy Needs to Reconsider Sandy Hook Records Ban

 
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West Hartford Courant: Governor Malloy Needs to Reconsider Sandy Hook Records Ban
"...But Connecticut should know very well that there sometimes are wrongful shootings by police.

A reminder came the other day with the suicide of a former New Milford police officer who committed such a shooting in 1998, killing a criminal with a shot to the back as he lay restrained on the ground. The officer was convicted of murder, won a new trial, and then pleaded guilty to a lesser charge, criminally negligent homicide, losing his career, and, some think, his life. (The shooting likely was the accidental discharge of a service pistol with a hair trigger, worsened by the officer's trying to excuse it by concocting a story that the criminal had made a sudden threatening move.) Presumably if Connecticut's new law on murder scene photos had been in force back then, important evidence in this case would have been withheld from public review."

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I have some questions. Maybe YOU know the answer.

Why did she allow a disturbed kid to have a gun?

How is Adams Doctor - Psychiatrist ?

Why didn't Adam show any violent behavior before Dec 14?

Why wasn't Nancy talking to her little Brother?

Why was Nancy away from home so much?

Why did Nancy never have guests inside the house?

Why did Adam have a Russian made Saiga in the trunk of his car?

Why won't the police acknowledge the police scanner anomaly where THE OFFICER says what sounds like (take the life of Adam) what about the death certificate that says he died the day before the shooting.

Did Adam warn anyone that he was going to shoot up a school?

Did Police or NSA know in advance about a threat in advance?

Did Adam destroy his hard drive to protect the identity of the other perpetrators?

Did the police switch hard drives?


Care to add your own questions?



COURANT/FRONTLINE INVESTIGATION: Raising Adam Lanza

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Who was Adams Doctor / Psychiatrist?
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Who was Adams Doctor???
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I have some questions. Maybe YOU know the answer.

Why did she allow a disturbed kid to have a gun?

How is Adams Doctor - Psychiatrist ?

Why didn't Adam show any violent behavior before Dec 14?

Why wasn't Nancy talking to her little Brother?

Why was Nancy away from home so much?

Why did Nancy never have guests inside the house?

Why did Adam have a Russian made Saiga in the trunk of his car?

Why won't the police acknowledge the police scanner anomaly where THE OFFICER says what sounds like (take the life of Adam) what about the death certificate that says he died the day before the shooting.

Did Adam warn anyone that he was going to shoot up a school?

Did Police or NSA know in advance about a threat in advance?

Did Adam destroy his hard drive to protect the identity of the other perpetrators?

Did the police switch hard drives?


Care to add your own questions?
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1. I think the "check from Nancy for a new gun" is beyond suspicious. The mere fact they felt they needed to create such a contrived, obvious piece of "evidence" suggests to me that Adam, if he was alive and/or existed, didn't have any guns.

2. It's hard to answer other questions about Adam very seriously, because there's not much evidence he actually existed. If he did exist, he didn't look like the photograph circulated (at least one person who claimed to know him in high school said she didn't even recognize him). I think the real Adam, if there is one, is the brown-eyed, lanky kid shown with Peter at the NBC studios (I used to think that was Ryan; I no longer think it's Ryan).

3. I don't know if/why Nancy was away from home so much, but she worked for Morgan Stanley and could have been as busy or busier than Peter.

4. According to Richard Novia, Nancy did have guests inside the house--LAN parties for computer geeks. But Novia is suspect to me, as a witness, so maybe Nancy didn't have guests inside the house. There's just not enough evidence to tell much of anything about these people. I pretty much go on the theory that if a "big character" goes out of their way to say something about the Lanzas, that's a clue to look at it as disinformation.

5. I've got so many questions posted already that I'd probably better limit it to what's already out there, lol. But my main question remains, "What really happened at Sandy Hook?"

6. Ok I do have one final question - I saw on another forum today that someone heard there was an arrest at St. Rose School 12/14/2012. I'd like to know if anyone else spotted that - it's the first I've heard it suggested.
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I have some questions. Maybe YOU know the answer.

Why did she allow a disturbed kid to have a gun?

How is Adams Doctor - Psychiatrist ?

Why didn't Adam show any violent behavior before Dec 14?

Why wasn't Nancy talking to her little Brother?

Why was Nancy away from home so much?

Why did Nancy never have guests inside the house?

Why did Adam have a Russian made Saiga in the trunk of his car?

Why won't the police acknowledge the police scanner anomaly where THE OFFICER says what sounds like (take the life of Adam) what about the death certificate that says he died the day before the shooting.

Did Adam warn anyone that he was going to shoot up a school?

Did Police or NSA know in advance about a threat in advance?

Did Adam destroy his hard drive to protect the identity of the other perpetrators?

Did the police switch hard drives?


Care to add your own questions?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34939786


1. I think the "check from Nancy for a new gun" is beyond suspicious. The mere fact they felt they needed to create such a contrived, obvious piece of "evidence" suggests to me that Adam, if he was alive and/or existed, didn't have any guns.

2. It's hard to answer other questions about Adam very seriously, because there's not much evidence he actually existed. If he did exist, he didn't look like the photograph circulated (at least one person who claimed to know him in high school said she didn't even recognize him). I think the real Adam, if there is one, is the brown-eyed, lanky kid shown with Peter at the NBC studios (I used to think that was Ryan; I no longer think it's Ryan).

3. I don't know if/why Nancy was away from home so much, but she worked for Morgan Stanley and could have been as busy or busier than Peter.

4. According to Richard Novia, Nancy did have guests inside the house--LAN parties for computer geeks. But Novia is suspect to me, as a witness, so maybe Nancy didn't have guests inside the house. There's just not enough evidence to tell much of anything about these people. I pretty much go on the theory that if a "big character" goes out of their way to say something about the Lanzas, that's a clue to look at it as disinformation.

5. I've got so many questions posted already that I'd probably better limit it to what's already out there, lol. But my main question remains, "What really happened at Sandy Hook?"

6. Ok I do have one final question - I saw on another forum today that someone heard there was an arrest at St. Rose School 12/14/2012. I'd like to know if anyone else spotted that - it's the first I've heard it suggested.
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Totally agree on #1. This story is one of the smoking guns of this whole thing, besides the Emily Parker Fund business. Why give him a check? Adam would have to go the bank (if an autistic kid even has his own account) and deposit it, wait for it to clear and then go buy the gun. If she wanted him to have a gun, JUST GO WITH HIM TO THE GUN STORE.

Further, what are the chances that Adam has his own checking account? He is only 20 and lives at home. Why does he have a need to be financially independent. Most people at that age have a minors savings account sitting at a bank waiting to be closed. And Nancy would likely be a custodian/joint owner of any checking account because Adam might not have the mental capacity to handle an account. So there is a good chance (I would say 75%)Nancy is a joint owner on Adam's account, yet wrote him a check to deposit into the same account its written from? Give me a break.

And if it was a holiday card, why is it open before christmas? If it wasnt open, who writes a card two weeks before a holiday? And she wrote "For Your New Gun" in the memo of the check? Wouldnt she just tell him when he opened the card?

Like I've said before, EVERY piece of evidence or interview that is released publicly is to tie up a loose end in the story. They are carefully timed to answer a lingering question in order to end any debate. One guy who said Nancy let people in the house. Two people who claim to know Adam from high school. Database of school shootings (on paper, not on the computer of an AV nerd). Smashed hard drive. NRA certificate (also incredibly unbelievable). Books on autism. One eyewitness of the shooter. One man who witnessed the "evacuation" (Gene Rosen). One picture of kids leaving the school. One picture of one cop leading one family in a desperate dash away from the scene. And every one of these pieces of evidence confirm the official story in a cut-and-dry way: crazy loner kills a bunch of kids.
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Great. points on the checking issues, and The way you put the summary is perfect: every piece of info released is to tie up a loose end.

I remember that "Sandy Hook parent" who left a long "witness account" that magically covered nearly major issue in the official story but tried to pass it off as personal experience. In embellishing too freely, though, this "mom" accidentally contradicted some points in the official story, including contradicting EMT Cathy Dahlmeyer's public statement as to her and Officer William Chapman's actions.
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still trying to beat this dead horse back to life huh?
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still trying to beat this dead horse back to life huh?
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still trying to protect the identity of the real perps huh?
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Re: West Hartford Courant: Governor Malloy Needs to Reconsider Sandy Hook Records Ban
Malloy compares Sandy Hook to 911 and calls it a TIPPING POINT

"Exactly two months after signing legislation that made Connecticut's gun laws the toughest in the nation, Gov. Dannel P. Malloy identified the tragedy at Sandy Hook as a tipping point in national security similar to the 9/11 attacks during a keynote address Tuesday at the Security Industry Association's Government summit."

[link to www.ctpost.com]
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Maybe Jean Henry would be willing to talk now! She lives in Waterbury I think. She was Carvers Lab Assistant before she was fired for showing her hubby the body.
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Maybe Jean Henry would be willing to talk now! She lives in Waterbury I think. She was Carvers Lab Assistant before she was fired for showing her hubby the body.
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Is she still alive?
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Great. points on the checking issues, and The way you put the summary is perfect: every piece of info released is to tie up a loose end.

I remember that "Sandy Hook parent" who left a long "witness account" that magically covered nearly major issue in the official story but tried to pass it off as personal experience. In embellishing too freely, though, this "mom" accidentally contradicted some points in the official story, including contradicting EMT Cathy Dahlmeyer's public statement as to her and Officer William Chapman's actions.
 Quoting: Zephyr 42475959


That has been my contention this whole time. We never get real evidence of anything. Every loose end is tied up with 3rd person stories. A friend of a friend who knew someone can give scant evidence that maybe they know why this happened but nothing tangible from the last 10 years.

Every time a certain topic and loose end is too glaring along comes a "story".

Hey where is Peter Lanza? Suddenly 2 months later....Oh wow the Parkers just met with him to forgive him. That's great. Wait.....do we get to see Peter Lanza or just have to take the Parkers word they met with him?

That is like every story in this sad affair.
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Totally agree.

I think one of the most interesting to date has been Richard Novia's very long interview about how much he tried to help Adam.

If you think about it, one thing he's saying is that the system did everything it possibly could for that student (real or imagined).

In other words, the only answer is gun control...oh, and installing $100,000 security cameras as Novia did on Newtown High School ;)

I'm not sure I buy the gun control angle, at least not as the only angle, but it's being pushed so hard I can't reject it altogether.

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