What would a prophet do today?

What would a prophet do today? He would give up. He would take one look around, throw his hands up and say, "Fuck this shit!" And go find a cold beer.

this sounds more likely

when the "faux Tribunal" which will indeed be set up comes fully to the fore, with Death himself presiding at its "head" disguised as an emissary of "Light"

admist all lies and deception maligning that Virgin spark of DeJure Truth and Light which yet flickers lively herein in spite of same, intended to be destroyed with the ongoing mockery and utter degradation of such at the hands of these occultic ministrations which abide

then shall Truth be revealed in lieu of, ye in spite of all, heard fully around the globe by each and every, down to and including the very least of these...

tell me true that you believe that dark overcometh Light when together they are likewise conjoined

regardless of the overwhelming defacto power of said darkness in all it's faux glory and temporary "might"

oh ye of little faith you will be brought full circle

and thuswise into the ordained presence of the "right" which is "might" incarnate

selah

I would sit here and type on GLP for the hell of it and, wait for things to get really bad for people to wake up......

He would stop look around then walk right up to the customer service desk and demand his money back!

TELL SAUDI ARABIA TOO PULL ITS TERRORIST OUT OF SYRIA IMMEDIATELY..

send a love gift to TBN.

the prophet...

would pobably be sitting at home, pondering about things, how to create a unified human race..
and just being so shit amazed about people nowadays..

most people so stuck in their own brainwashed egocentrical bubble that they have nothing but a shattered image of what's really going on out there with absolutely no comprehension of what really matters in life anymore..
no care for mother earth, all flora and fauna..
no care nor understanding (nor the will to) for their fellow humanbeings, unless they might know them and they think and do as they do..
no social awareness or social concious(ness)..

how can nothing but a 'man' change these social structures that has been forced upon, shaped us, each in our own way and that has become our 'world'...

quite a hellish task if you'd ask me...

As I read your words I laughed out loud. A man can not change the world. The world is a hellish place because we let the the ones inspired by the evil to constantly win, ever so slightly they win.

But back to original concept, "in the last days your kids will prophesy", "your old men will dream dreams". If all the future prophets are being wiped out in abortions, no prophets, no last days. the devil laughs his very small tail off and scurries back to another ear to whisper his idiotic shit too.

The prophets need to speak up, not the dumbass new age shit. The ones that see wall street as beast of Daniel, and the tribe of Joseph as being the great powers of the last two centuries.

Its the history of world that prevents prophets from proclaiming the end times.
The school system waters down history to pure farts, void of facts, and stanking with lies.

"My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge." "The stranger among you shall rule over you" "They will do bad things to you for my names sake"

Wall street will have every one having a device in their right hand that they stare out all day, and they can't function without it. Right out of the garden of eden, and no one minister sees it but the rat the devil.

A little ormus testing and walk by the lake?

This is the only site you say this stuff without the nuts going apeshit.

We can be days away from the internet being censored due to national security issues. Wait a minute it is, I forgot they monitor everything and most gov'ts censor the shit out of it.

For Jesus to return and put Wall street out will require a few prophets.

For the land to be returned to the people will require a few prophets announcing jubilee, the forgiveness of all debts and the return of all land.

The freeing of all the slaves from wall street bondage, the low wages paid in police states by wall street is slavery.

The prophets will have a lot to say as they announce the Jubilee which should start now.

Do what they normally do...Prophesize.

stay hidden for now

God's Two Witnesses
by Richard T. Ritenbaugh
Forerunner, "Prophecy Watch," May-June 2008
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Over the past year, certain groups among the churches of God have brought the subject of the Two Witnesses to the fore once again. One minister is proclaiming that he and his wife are the pair of prophets that Revelation 11 foretells will appear in the last days to testify in God's behalf for the final time before Christ's return. Another minister has said that, no, he is not one of the Two Witnesses, but they will arise under his auspices. No doubt, many church members, seeing the worsening conditions around the globe, have privately speculated about who the Two Witnesses will be.

For years, the Worldwide Church of God had to fend off multiple claimants of this prophetic role. Funny stories circulated around the Ambassador College campus about the loony man who proclaimed himself as the Two Witnesses—evidently, he had at least two personalities. And, of course, not to be outdone, there were rumors about the group of three who said they were the Two Witnesses!

All ridicule aside, there is a general expectation among God's people that the Two Witnesses will begin to prophesy soon, if only because we anticipate Christ's return in the near future. Obviously, the two events are linked in the flow of prophecy. Revelation 11:3 plainly states that the Two Witnesses' ministry of testimony is confined to the "one thousand two hundred and sixty days"—three and a half years—of the Great Tribulation. They are martyred by the Beast three and a half days before the first resurrection, when they are raised to join Him in the air with the other firstfruits of God's Kingdom (verses 11-12; I Thessalonians 4:15-17).

If this is so, then the timing of their work for God is set and known. No two people will officially be "the Two Witnesses" before this time. Therefore, if the Great Tribulation has not begun—if the holy city has not come under the dominion of the Gentiles (Revelation 11:2)—then the Two Witnesses have not officially begun to prophesy. Until then, according to the silence of the Scriptures, they will be essentially anonymous servants of God.

Yet, this does not mean that the Bible fails to provide any clues about what kind of people the Two Witnesses will be. What few hints that can be gleaned from Scripture give us a thumbnail sketch of the general character of these two enigmatic, yet pivotal, end-time personalities.

Wheat from Chaff

To begin our investigation, we can quickly dispense with who and what the Two Witnesses are not, an exercise that will considerably narrow the field of likely candidates. Like the ancient process of gleaning, we can toss the whole mess up into the air, and the insubstantial chaff will float away in the breeze. What remains is the grain.

The primary texts on the Two Witnesses are Revelation 11 and Zechariah 4. What does not fit the facts and implications of these two prophetic passages we can discard as highly speculative and not worth serious consideration except in dismissal. Some people have asserted truly wild ideas about these two prophets, but we will see that they derive from their own imaginations rather than from the Bible.

First, the Two Witnesses will not be crazed, unstable individuals. Nothing in the Bible—much less these two passages—suggests that God ever uses people of unsound minds to accomplish a major work for Him. The apostle Paul tells us that God's Spirit in us is not "of fear, but of power and of love and of a sound mind" (II Timothy 1:7). While some of God's prophets had personal problems and were commanded to do some strange things to get God's point across in symbolic ways—Ezekiel comes to mind—they were far from being lunatics. They were different from the world around them because they believed God and did His will, but they were quite sane and rational.

Second, they will not be anything other than men. We can take this on two levels. Some have suggested that the Two Witnesses are entities like the Old and New Testaments, Israel and the church, the Jews and the Gentiles, or even the Philadelphia and Laodicean eras of the church! However, Revelation 11 is quite clear that the Two Witnesses are "prophets" (verse 10), that they can be killed (verse 7), that they have bodies (verses 8-9), and that the breath of life enters them upon resurrection (verse 11). The literal meaning of these details is the best interpretation, leading to the conclusion that they are people, not things.

The other level is gender, a touchy subject in these inclusive times. Many have tried to hold the door open for a woman to fill the role of one of the Two Witnesses, but the language in the primary passages is overwhelmingly masculine (except where the natural gender of the languages demands it). Additionally, the pronouns are consistently masculine plural, as is the word "prophets" in Revelation 11:10.

Although it can be argued that the masculine is the Greek default gender for groups of mixed gender, the biblical pattern reveals that it is far more likely that God would choose two men to shoulder the burden of this final work. In addition, the allusions to types within the two primary passages are to men: Moses, Elijah, Joshua, and Zerubbabel. This is not to say that a woman could not do this work, but that the preponderance of Scripture argues against God choosing a woman to do it.

Third, the Two Witnesses will not be resurrected saints from the past, such as the aforementioned Moses and Elijah or perhaps Enoch. These three are often cited as candidates because the Bible describes their deaths so mysteriously, as if they are not really dead but in heaven waiting for God to send them back as His witnesses in the end time. There is no indication in the primary passages even to suggest this. So much time has passed since their lifetimes that it is ridiculous to think that anyone on earth today would even know who they are!

Besides, Hebrews 9:27 and the rest of New Testament theology, as well as God's consistent patterns, challenge this view. Except for Jesus, all the dead await the resurrection. In addition, God has never used a servant in two separate times. Jesus Himself tells us, "If they do not hear Moses and the prophets [in Scripture], neither will they be persuaded though one rise from the dead" (Luke 16:31).

Fourth, and finally, they will be neither unconverted nor recently converted people. In other words, they will be baptized members of God's church and probably ordained ministers. Again, God's pattern in working to bring His plan to fruition reveals that the Two Witnesses will come from among His people, just as the prophets came from Israel and the apostles were chosen from among His disciples. The apostle Paul may seem to be a glaring exception to this rule, but even he was required to undergo a three-year period of instruction before he was sent out to fulfill his expansive calling (see Galatians 1:16-18). Due to their mission's magnitude, the Two Witnesses will likewise be prepared for it over an extended period beforehand.

These four points have eliminated great portions of humanity from the search for a sketch of the Two Witnesses. Now we need to decipher the Bible's hints about them.

Olive Trees and Lampstands

It is no wonder that these two are so enigmatic, for the Bible says little about them as persons. It says what God will do for them and what they will do for God during their time of testimony, but for the most part, the individuals themselves are cloaked and hooded. A shallow study of the primary passages might suggest that they are faceless, anonymous everymen.

However, this would be a hasty and mistaken conclusion. Revelation is a book of types and symbols that are designed, like Jesus' parables, to hide the truth from the uninitiated, yet to reveal it to whom "it has been given . . . to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven" (Matthew 13:11). The book's very name demands that it be a disclosure of truth, not a concealment of it.

Jesus, through the angel speaking to the apostle John, identifies who the Two Witnesses are: "These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands standing before the God of the earth" (Revelation 11:4). To the unenlightened, this sounds like little more than further symbolic claptrap. However, to those who use God's Spirit, which imparts the mind of Christ to His disciples (I Corinthians 2:16), it is a lighted, flashing arrow pointing back to the prophecy found in Zechariah 4.

Zechariah 4:14, in summing up the prophecy, parallels Revelation 11:4: "So [the angel] said, 'These [olive trees] are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth." Clearly, the Two Witnesses and their work are revealed in the two olive trees, but understanding this heavily symbolic description takes some effort.

In Zechariah 4:2, the angel describes a strange golden lampstand, somewhat like a menorah—a seven-branched candelabra—but with a large bowl on top. This lampstand features a central pole, on top of which is the bowl, and from it, perhaps in seven different directions, extend seven arms or branches, each ending in a lamp. Further, seven pipes or tubes run to each of the seven lamps from the large bowl on top. Verse 3 informs us that the two olive trees stand to the right and left of the bowl.

A similar vision is given to the apostle John in Revelation 1:12-13. In it, the resurrected Jesus Christ replaces the central pole, and the seven lampstands are arrayed around Him, much like the seven lamps. Christ Himself interprets the vision, saying that the seven lampstands are the seven churches (verse 20). However, in this vision, the olive trees are not to be found—they appear separately in Revelation 11. Here, the bowl, too, is missing.

Zechariah has no idea what he is seeing, so he asks for clarification. Through the angel, God gives His answer: "This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: 'Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit,' says the Lord of hosts" (Zechariah 4:6). Zerubbabel, a type of Christ, had been given the work of building the Temple after the Jews returned from exile in Babylon. God's answer to Zechariah is that His work is done through His Spirit.

Applying this to the vision, we are to see that the oil that drains from the bowl into the seven lamps represents God's Spirit manifested in works (I Corinthians 12:7-11). We never see the Holy Spirit, since it is invisible to the eye, but we see the works done through it (John 3:8).

On this aspect of the prophecy of Zechariah 4, the Kiel and Delitzsch commentary asserts: "Oil . . . is used in the Scriptures as a symbol of the Spirit of God, not in its transcendent essence, but so far as it works in the world, and is indwelling in the church." Simply put, oil signifies God's Spirit in its visible works rather than in its pure form.

Jesus declares an important principle in John 6:63, "The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life." One of the primary vehicles of the work of God's Spirit is words—spoken or written. The Bible is inspired by God's Spirit (II Timothy 3:16; II Peter 1:21), and it is a composition of words—God's words, prophets' words, and apostles' words. In the same way, the primary job of an anointed servant of God is to speak or write words to convict people of God's truth. In the speaking or writing of words, he witnesses for God and accomplishes a work.

In the case of the Two Witnesses, the two anointed ones, this connection becomes critical. Zechariah 4:12 literally reads, "What are the two olive clusters which through the two golden pipes empty out of themselves the golden oil?" It is an illustration of the olive trees emptying oil into the bowl! How can these two men—prophets though they are—supply the seven churches with oil? Because the oil is not God's Spirit in pure form but Spirit-inspired works, probably in the form of words—teaching, instruction.

If this is so, the Two Witnesses provide a massive amount of spiritual instruction to the seven churches just before the end.

"My Two Witnesses"

Another clue to the character of these two prophets appears in God's introduction of them in Revelation 11:3: "And I will give power to my two witnesses. . . ." The angel is obviously speaking for God—they are not the angel's witnesses but God's! We should note the use of the English possessive "My," which suggests both personal ownership and affiliation.

However, the Greek reads more literally, ". . . the two witnesses of me." While this rendering also imparts the idea of possession, it adds a vital element: that the Two Witnesses testify about God Himself. They are God's direct representatives in the crucial last years of man's civilization. And they represent Him, not just in words, but in everything they do during their prophetic ministry.

In other words, these two men are not run-of-the-mill Christians by any means! Not a single word of censure is aimed at them in either Revelation 11 or Zechariah 4. They will be model Christians, followers of Christ and His righteousness to such a degree that when the people of this world observe them, they will see human reproductions of the life of Christ. In much the same way as Jesus represented the Father during His physical life, so will the witnesses represent Jesus during the Great Tribulation and the Day of the Lord (see John 14:9). While they will not be perfect, they will be men of godly character and virtue.

It is no wonder, then, that they attract the wrath of Satan and the Beast, as well as the hatred of the whole world! Just as Jesus was opposed, mocked, persecuted, and finally killed, so will these men draw the fire of the anti-Christ, end-time population of earth. Thus, Christ endues His two prophets with power to preach, to plague, and to defend themselves against harm (Revelation 11:5). In order to survive their mission during a time of Noachian-type violence, God will give them the tools and protection to reveal Him for a final time as a witness before Christ intervenes in world affairs.

Therefore, we should not be looking necessarily for great signs and wonders being done by two prophets, as that activity will likely be confined to the final three and a half years. By that point, it will be obvious to the enlightened who they are. As Revelation 11:9-10 suggests, by the time they are finished with their work, the whole world will know who they are.

Instead, at this time we need to be looking for Christ-like servants who are fulfilling the type of the two olive trees—feeding the churches through their Holy Spirit-inspired works—and who are focused on "measur[ing] the temple of God, the altar, and those who worship there" (Revelation 11:1). They will be intensely laboring to achieve the equipping of the saints (Ephesians 4:12) for the terrifying days to come and the return of Christ.

Who the Two Witnesses are has not yet been revealed, and how long we have to go before the time of their appearance no one knows. However, in looking for them, we need to concentrate on what Scripture reveals so that we might properly identify them. Ecclesiastes 3:11 in the Moffatt version declares how God works in these matters: "He assigned each [thing] to its proper time, but for the mind of man he has appointed mystery, that man may never fathom God's own purpose from beginning to end." God will make them known when their time has come. So, wait and watch!

Was that "movement to the basement" of his father's home an act of desperation...after numerous FBI SUPPORTED AND PROTECTED GANG STALKING INCIDENTS THAT SHOULD SHOCK THE CONSCIOUS OF APPELLATE FED JUDGES, who are supposed to make sure THE FED COURTS ARE AVAILABLE TO THOSE WHO HAVE THEIR RIGHTS UNILATERLLY RESCINDED BY FASCIST FUCKING PIGS, JERKOFF PUNKS, EX MILITARY TRASH, AND COMMUNITY WATCH GROUPS.

Too late, they were aborted years ago. The ones that lived through abortions had their brains fried with vaccinations. While you were busy fucking around studying the law and figuring out new ways to make it difficult, the devil wiped out the two witnesses.

Jesus needs to come back now to stop this stupid shit you propose, sit on your ass and wait, while the devil goes after the prophets while they are vulnerable.

No more waiting for the two olive branches to be proclaimed by a church that can't wipe its on ass.

He would be out of work, all the info that is going to be given is already in print in the Bible.

Yes, Quite Hellish.

Until God's perfect timing.

You have to say something or he want come back. How many times will the innocent fall? A million? one? 100 million?

He will not free you from bondage till you ask.

I am asking, not only asking I am saying Jubilee is upon us, and boldly going to God and asking him to bring it about. End the tyranny of the beast, wall street.
Forgive all debts public and private.

Ask and you shall receive. Or you can wait for some dumbass to tell you to wait for some church to instruct the two witnesses, to save our ass.

In the last days I will pour out my spirit, your kids will prophesy. Not your dumbasses who insist on waiting for two witnesses who never made it out of the womb. Because the dumbasses were busy listening to their dumbass minister preaching santa claus.

He is the teacher. He is the one who can teach you what is written.
i am him

What? are you saying you are the prophet? or one of the prophets?
Wow! Thanks for clearing that up.

any shit eating moron can style himself a prophet.

Lets see--- died at 17--left solar system sent back to earth by Jesus--- check

Refused to accept Satan as MY God--- Defeated Satan in Hell-- power of the Father to forgive--- removed Souls from Hell ----check

Fought on behalf of the Father in the past-- visited pyramids when the Beam Weapon was still working---check
Took out the transhumanism nit-wit in future--- check

Was summoned back to Heaven--- worked (see consequence of saving Souls from Hell)--- check

Whipped the Devils ass--- hand to hand combat--- the Devil was screaming like a woman giving birth to a bowling ball--- check

Took out an assortment of really evil false prophets of very unusual non-human qualities--- check

Visited other worlds-- check
Trans-dimensional journeys--- very eye-opening to other human civilizations [Houses of the Creator] check

Strategic missions to off-world military bases run in secrecy--- very interesting as well--- check

Future probable time-lines--- tough call--- some seem much more possible than others--- especially involving a significant changes to the Mississippi--- check

More battles with alien--types organic and machines--- too numerous to even remember properly--- check

Exceptional leaps into future--- last days of man on earth--- Satan is revealed as a non-physical energy-sucking creature--- very F'n weird--- hunts down the remaining people--- basically children running feral--- check

Positive encounters with much more advanced races--- was shown the real purpose of the earth moon[earth rotation stabilization] and its construction--- very cool --check

Many interactions with Angels-- especially when trans-dimensionally moving into restricted parallel worlds-- they are very sweet however--- even as they send me back-- check

Under-cover missions of mind-boggling details and purposes--- non-terrain races operating right under peoples awareness--- big ties to secretive military/corporation activities---- check

Witnessed a new world being created from firmaments to first Sunrise--- check

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Well, these are just a few things off the top of my head that I have done over the last thirty or so years... Proving the impossible is pointless. Explaining anything beyond the Norm to people anymore is fruitless. Yeah, if only I had a super-duper-camera which operated behind me to capture the moments--- man would I be rich and famous why men would be shaking my hand with great gusto and woman would be throwing kisses my way.... kids laughing as they do as kids do... why its rainbows and skittles all day long....


The reality is people do not give a flying monkeys ass. Hateful people spewing their toxic wrath at a drop of a pin and god forbid you mention doing anything that trumps that stupid-shit Marxist crap... damn that dude was hard-rock f'n stupid... yeah Satan the [immortal] dead god Ha Ha very funny-- evil prick and the leftist mouth his lies as their own. Well, they claim to have improved the lie for the modern mind of course. Bottom line no respect for any truth not found in a tiny little box called science.

A real prophet knows to stay alive means keeping their mouths shut until such times a genuine word is needed. I do not consider myself a prophet, but having walked the walk for so long the battle scars run deep. All of these other-worldly activities really take a real toll on the body---- so if your really looking for an answer--- maybe the prophet was never the Champion deluxe after all.

You earn what you keep. What have you earned today? When men treat Wisdom like gold maybe some prophet will become much more popular....




until then it is crickets.....





By the way Hell--- not a sound of any kind-- not even rock-n-roll, how odd----- the damned had no bodies... they looked like pale-white, lolly-pops for Satan... no Crowns either. I did not see one iota of joy on their dead surprised faces. Satan's red-beady eyes were burning with old-age and evil. His horns were on his metal helmet. His helmet was solid as his body was transparent. Not a sight for the weak and stupid. And if you think knocking down Satan's will is a cake walk... that son'of'a'bitch would be long since gone by now. He might very well be collecting prophets like bobble-heads. He lost quite a few Souls that day while getting bitch-slapped.... now that would have been a You-Tube moment.

A prophet would understand who the enemy is:

History repeats itself, and stories in NT are (micro)patterns for endtime events to unfold on a macro scale. ie Jesus rides on donkey first time, rides white horse on return.

The dynasty of Herod were half Edomite, half Jew (Esau which means red). The Herod's were baby killers, purposely tried to stop Messiah, rebuilt the temple in their image. Wanted to be gods (eaten by worms)

A prophet would understand:
The book of Obadiah is a prophetic book of the future like Revelation and spells out the role of Edom and his grandson Teman. Teman represents the future generations of Esau. Early church fathers understood this, but the teaching was steered away to lay a foundation of the great deception. Esau was bent on world dominion as he killed Nimrod to steal the rule of Babylon. This is why he sold his birthright (Book of Jasher) and has been working to get that dominion. Today, Esau has puts on the skins of Jacob to deceive a blind world.

A prophet would understand:
The Great Harlot rides a red (Esau) beast. The dragon who tried to devour the manchild in Rev 12 is a red (Esau) dragon.

Rothschild means Red Schild (sheild) an adopted name when they came into power. THE RED SHIELD OF ESAU who finally got world dominion.

Oreo, Where did you go.

I switched to chocolate chips. Oreo's give me gas. I am not a prophet, I cuss to my, I need attention, I don't study the word enough. I am not sure the entire Bible is inspired by God. The writers gave themselves a lot of good copy. God told them to wipe out the folks, when God said don't kill. it works great if you want to make yourself look good. if you're suppose to be setting the example for the world, going out and destroying villages has the opposite effect.

I can't tolerate organized religion, especially world wide church of god freaks.
Power crazy hypocrites.

Nice post! "Who says I am not a widow? "
"Your house has been left desolate"

wow. so many on here seem to think poorly of God. God is almighty! no one defeats God. if God wants prophets they will be. if God wants messiah there will be one.

there is no stopping God. period. God's will ... will be done.