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| Charlane User ID: 86524 04/27/2006 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do you feel this is so important to write about if you are 'beating women off with a stick'? Remember life is cyclical and while you may be at a point of saturation now, later your supply could be met with less demand. Ironically, everything you wrote could apply to men. Really, it's all genderless. The object of your desire is either an ass or isn't. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 86319 04/27/2006 11:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | TRUTH: Women are out for status and fun or for security, depending upon their age. A few women are out for cold cash, but not too many. Status-seeking women aren't ready to settle down. They just wanna have fun, and they want their girlfriends to know it. They're looking for a guy they can dangle in front of their friends and say, "Look what I got!" You don't have to have money to be that guy, you just have to come across as desirable. Of course if you have money you don't need to do anything else, but having no money isn't the end of the world. The women who are out for security have had their wild fling and want to settle down. They want a guy who can provide a stable base for the future (and that includes finances). |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 85801 04/27/2006 11:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | FACT - Men complain about how women are bitches and are only out for money, status, marriage, babies and _insert your complaint here_. They complain about how women look and routinely make fun of ugly women but when it is time to settle down they pick the ugliest dog in town who treats them like shit. The real tragedy is when a man complains about women and marries the biggest ho in town. She cheats on him, he is supporting kids who are not his own and she finally divorces him, takes all his kids and leaves him a pile of tearful man asking why. FACT - The man who thinks women just want status symbols. Somehow through all his complaints finds the biggest money obsessed, status seeking bitch in town to marry. She makes his life miserable and leaves him for the next yuppy scum to come along. Making his life miserable by getting the best divorce lawyer, the house, the car and the savings account. Leaving him a heap on the floor wondering why. MYTH - Men are so put upon by women. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 625 04/28/2006 12:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to famguardian.org] Terrorism, Sedition, and Treason: Why Child Support Enforcement laws are anti-American and an act of Terrorism against Americans written by: Bruce Eden, Constitutional Rights Director, Fathers Rights Association of New Jersey & Mid-Atlantic Region Communism is alive and well and it runs the United States of Amerika. I have been involved in the research of child support and welfare reform for years and have researched a number of very astute scientists, economists, psychologists, legal professionals, politicians and many others. Irwin Garfinkle's paper, "Sweden's Child Support System" (1982) is the current model for the state of Wisconsin which has been emulated by a large number of states in the U.S. However, economics experts studying this field of child support have found that is indeed not from Sweden, but in actuality from the former Soviet Union. Though we can learn from other systems, the transplantation of any foreign social program into the U.S. is fraught with danger. We have our own Constitution and a different relationship between government and private economy. It is nonsensical to transplant social programs outside the political and economic context in which they develop because this inevitably leads to treason and sedition and the overthrow of our government by internal forces. U.S. child support reforms are based on the Soviet model, Article 81 of the The Russian Family Code, adopted in 1995. Its use was and is promoted in the United States by Irwin Garfinkel as part of a suite of Communist policy which became known to us as "The Wisconsin Model" because it involves the income shares approach--how much each parent makes determines how much child support is paid; rather than the true cost of raising children. As the Communist Manifesto says: "Each according to ability; each according to his needs". Our child support system was conceived and implemented as part of the former Communist way of doing things. We can start by recognizing that the "percentage of income" formula comes directly from the Russian lawbooks. The Russians used 25% for one child, 30% for two, and 35% for 3 or more. Sound familiar? This must have made sense in a country where most everyone was poor, prices were controlled by the government, and the transfer of "wealth" was the most important fundamental ideal of the oppressive regime's entire economic system. The Income shares model developed by Robert Williams, of Policy Institute, Inc. fame, mimics the "percentage of income" formula to a significant extent. Russian fathers pay the amount prescribed by the formula. That's it. There are no deviations; there are no exceptions; there is no consideration of individual circumstances (i.e., involuntary loss of employment due to economic downturn, downsizing, outsizing, ageism, etc., disability, illness, underemployment and unemployment, and even death); and there is no excuse for non-payment. Most payments in the Russian system are taken directly by the government. They are all processed by the central bureaucracy. The bureaucracy doesn't care about "special circumstances". There was no "individual" in Soviet society--only compliance. Those who found, or even look for, a way to avoid compliance in the Russian child support system could get jail, credit problems, exclusion from work, loss of rights (to the extent they had any), and loss of government benefits. Sound strikingly familiar? Debtor's prison for CIVIL child support debt in violation of Fourth Amendment since there's no probable cause a crime was committed to arrest and jail someone in a CIVIL matter; prohibitions against imprisonment for debt; ruination of credit; suspension of driver's licenses, professional licenses, hunting and fishing licenses; seizure of Social Security Disability benefits and retirement benefits (I know firsthand since I am disabled and they left me below the regional poverty line after garnishing my Social Security Disability benefits without a trial); denial of visitation rights without any enforcement of court orders for same; jailed for extended periods of time causing loss of employment due to no fault of self because of inability to comply with excessively high support orders leaving people unable to fend for themselves. How did the Russian Communists react to the fact that not everyone in their society matched the model of a good communist citizen? With public humiliation and condemnation and even ostracizing from groups; calling groups of people "deadbeats" and putting up posters with names and pictures of people who interfered with communist efficiency. The child support enforcement tyranny does the same identical tactics in this country. Those who say we won the Cold War are sadly mistaken. Former Soviet Union Premier Nikita Kruschev was right. He stated that the United States would be defeated by communism from within its own borders. The Communist system existed for 80 years in Russia before its collapse. We fought communism all over the World--Korea, Vietnam. NATO was a result of Communist hegemony. Why then, are the biggest, most important U.S. social policy changes of the last 15-20 years based on the Soviet-Communist model? Why also, are the centralized computer systems purchased for the child support system powerful enough to keep track of intimate details of every person on the planet? Why are we opening up the IRS database for use by other agencies? Why have there been so many court decisions undermining the guarantees spelled out clearly in the Bill of Rights? Doesn't this all involve a completely foreign vision of the basic fundamental relationship between individuals and the state; something that is indeed, in the most concrete way possible, anti-American? We are headed in the wrong direction for this country. The time to stop it is now before it is too late. Government is passing more and more draconian child support enforcement laws every day. Government oppression is at its highest pinnacle since the British ruled this country over 225 years ago. Where does it stop? We are on the slippery slope. And, for what? Because some bureaucracy wants to remain employed by violating and depriving the people of their fundamentally secured rights? It has become big government/big business. Just like in the Soviet Union. Bruce Eden, Constitutional Rights Director, Fathers Rights Association of New Jersey & Mid-Atlantic Region |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 60695 04/28/2006 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, I never had any idea what I wanted. In retrospect, all I wanted was to avoid having children and playing the role of wife. Now all I want is a smart radical to have fun with all the time and who is willing to escape the U.S. All you've figured out is how to abuse women and give them veneral diseases. The only men I would avoid entirely are Italians. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76732 04/28/2006 12:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A VERY good read...mostly all true. An "ole timer" told me years and years ago one truth which has stood the test of time. You will see the inherent "truth" of the statement if you'll think about it for awhile. " Everything in this life boils down to either the Fuck or the buck". |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 83855 04/28/2006 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ultimately it boils down to you do what ever you want, with whom ever you want, until you both want to do something else. Why live a lie that says you have to do this and answer to that ? In the end you'll both 'find a way' to do what you want anyway. This TRUTH is all TRUTH on the surface and MYTH anyway down deep. All you have is people searching and trying to discover the world and attempting to discover themselves through others. Just let go and enjoy the present, instead of always being worried about some women who's out to get something. We all want something, even if it's peace of mind. The main attraction to the opposite sex is energy. Go and exchange some. We look at someone, perceive someone with a filter of knowledge of who we 'think' they are & visa versa. You really can not know anybody, only your invented image, your concept, your belief of who they are. Unless you want companionship & sex, there's no need to be with anyone. In fact, I just built a log cabin and I'll see you back here in 10 years. When you change the way you look at things the things you look at change. It's all in the MIND, just enjoy everyday of your life. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 82216 04/28/2006 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | >>"Why do you feel this is so important to write about if you are 'beating women off with a stick'? Remember life is cyclical and while you may be at a point of saturation now, later your supply could be met with less demand. Ironically, everything you wrote could apply to men. Really, it's all genderless. The object of your desire is either an ass or isn't."<< ----------------------------------------- ????? I have a very hard time believing you read the OP's entire post. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 598 04/28/2006 01:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 625, do you think that men should not pay child support? You guys have your "fun" and then when the responsibility for your acts shows up you vanish and that's OK? I do agree that alimony and child support is frequently obscene in its proportions. ADVICE - don't get married . Legal marriage is a contract between you her and THE STATE! I do know a guy who was in that position. He loves his child. He pays fair support voluntarily. And then some! The kid is rather spoiled, Is daddy's only love and knows it and sometimes takes unfair advantage The mother is really pissed because she was hoping to get enough to support herself too, so she wouldn't have to work. Money is important to the extent that it tell a lot about the man. If he is 30 and doesn't have gainful employment and savings, he must have really loose brains. No self respecting woman would want him. I view taking care of his body as very important. I think "sloppy body, sloppy mind". If this is the case haveing money is meaningless. If he doesn't love himself, then he will be unable to love me. The biggest mistake that men make is thinking that woman was created for man. This ages old attitude has created the existing chaos in our relationships. It is this idea that has given men the "love 'em and leave 'em" attitude. It is this attitude that has made women into insecure whining bitches. It is this attitude that causes some women to feel that they must control men. I have never had those gab fests with my girl friends. I have listened to them going on and on about their husbands and boyfriends, and wondered why they would say such things about the man they professed to love. I have also listened to men talk about the women they have been with. And if those women ever heard what was said, they would kill them. What problems do men have that women don't care about? What problems do women have that men don't care about? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 380 04/28/2006 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "I have never had those gab fests with my girl friends." Yep.There are exceptions to every rule.I myself am an exception to the rule most women see for men.Only problem is, the general result is basically as outlined in the OP. The bigger problem is, though intellectually I know the OP is right,I have little or no interest in living like that. |
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