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Anonymous Coward User ID: 16591630 United States 06/28/2013 11:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Personally, I would MUCH rather face the guillotine than any of the other forms of capital punishment. It's quick, clean, and over before you know it. Quoting: QuantumKev Lethal injection? No thanks - you lay there on the gurney for how long (?) slowly waiting to die. Yuck. Electric chair? NO WAY! That just CANNOT feel good, and it's not all too quick either. I have never seen why the guillotine or firing squads were so "inhumane"....? Seems to me that - as long as the blade was sharp and the aims were true - they would be much quicker and much less painful. Am I missing something? Actually the least painful way to go is an oxygen free environment. You don't feel suffocation, you just pass out and the brain dies from lack of oxygen in 12 to 20 minutes or so. In fact after passing out you can drain he body of blood and wait for the heart to stop beating. ewwww sounds like an appointment at jiffy lube |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37936964 United States 06/28/2013 11:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state’s electric chair with the guillotine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36803473 Teper’s reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the “Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact.” [link to vineoflife.net] This was in 1996.... and he failed to get the bill through... [link to en.wikipedia.org] There are currently no plans, here in Georgia, to replace the state's electric chair... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42439461 United States 06/28/2013 11:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state’s electric chair with the guillotine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36803473 Teper’s reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the “Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact.” [link to vineoflife.net] This was in 1996.... and he failed to get the bill through... [link to en.wikipedia.org] There are currently no plans, here in Georgia, to replace the state's electric chair... Yes there really is. |
The Slavior User ID: 26023321 United States 06/28/2013 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I was in a death row's shoes, at least juice me up with some painkillers. It's all about pain isn't it? This thread reminds me of another thread that wondered why the govmt was buying up a shitload of guillotines. Possibility is the nature of God, and impossibility is the limitation of man. |
aH.E.M. User ID: 32786008 United States 06/28/2013 12:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Responding to the thread, I am not surprised at all, considering it is Georgia at the center of this. I don't know about anyone else. but this has been one of those weeks where everything concerning End Times has been at the forefront of the news cycles. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 886463 That's because pushing the gun nuts to revolution didn't work out, so now maybe they'll give Apocalyptic Christians a try. They have to get some group to revolt, so they can step in ruthlessly to suppress us, requiring us to be "rescued" from our own Government by the UN et al. That's one theory anyway. aH.E.M. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 42432760 United States 06/28/2013 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget they have to do some practise runs before the civil war and the Fema camps. Quoting: grumpier Why Did the U.S. Government Recently Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? [link to shariaunveiled.wordpress.com] Why can I find no evidence that the government purchased 30,000 guillotines? A few websites mention this but offer no evidence to back the claim up. Where's the evidence, I'd really like to see it. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37936964 United States 06/28/2013 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't forget they have to do some practise runs before the civil war and the Fema camps. Quoting: grumpier Why Did the U.S. Government Recently Purchase 30,000 Guillotines? [link to shariaunveiled.wordpress.com] Why can I find no evidence that the government purchased 30,000 guillotines? A few websites mention this but offer no evidence to back the claim up. Where's the evidence, I'd really like to see it. Because they never actually did... all the threads here on GLP that claimed this, were fake and showing pictures of an Art Sculpture and had web link references to prove it.... so this was successfully debunked. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37936964 United States 06/28/2013 12:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state’s electric chair with the guillotine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36803473 Teper’s reasoning? It would allow for death-row inmates as organ donors, he says, since the “Blade makes a clean cut and leaves vital organs intact.” [link to vineoflife.net] This was in 1996.... and he failed to get the bill through... [link to en.wikipedia.org] There are currently no plans, here in Georgia, to replace the state's electric chair... Yes there really is. No there really isn't. Even the OP's linked article, references the fact that this was news from March of 1996! Infact. [link to en.wikipedia.org] Doug Teper, is not even a member of the current Georgia General Assembly. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 8723351 United States 06/28/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: grumpier Research during the French revolution showed it is VERY painful and lasts two minutes. Really? I disagree with that. Severing the head quickly means the brain is separated from the majority of the nervous system...there would be no pain receptors feeding data to the brain. The most appalling part of the guillotine was the fact that the head and brain were conscious for a few seconds after severance. It takes the brain a few seconds to know the body is dead. Pretty creepy actually. The guillotine was highly efficient though...no energy required. A heavy, razor sharp blade slashes through the neck and spinal cord in a split second...the head tumbles away into a basket where it must realize it is finished... The stories of the head blinking and the eyes looking around are true. The most humane death is where the brain is instantly shut down and destroyed...or it simply is put to sleep and never wakes up. It all depends on how our new masters want us to check out...painlessly and efficiently or with much pain and suffering... The thinning of the population is at hand...they WILL do this...just a matter of how and when. There is nothing to disagree, it is just researched and established fact. Deal with it. I have to now give a resounding "bullshit"...you cannot feel pain detached from the nervous system....neurology 101 dude...I am not saying it is not a trauma to the psyche or consciousness...but there is no fucking pain...you deal with that. First, only MOST of your nervous system is detached. Some of it is in your neck and head, including your brain, brain stem, and part of the spinal cord, which together form the central nervous system (CNS). Second, pain is a sensation that is ultimately delivered by your brain, not your pain receptors. It's the same with other senses: sight is just your brain's interpretations of signals from your eyes, sound is your brain's interpretation of signals from your ears, etc. Phantom limb syndrome is a good example of this: even when all of the nerves responsible for sensation in the severed limb are severed, the limb can still be "felt" by the victim, and often times the sensation is one of pain and discomfort, especially when the limb is lost to trauma. This is real, documented medical science, by the way. Nothing hokey. Third, French experiments showed that at least one victim responded to auditory stimuli for a while after being decapitated, so sensory information IS still being delivered to the brain. So I mean since we can't ask someone whether or not it hurts, we can't REALLY know (unless maybe by doing a brain scan at the moment of decapitation), but I think it would hurt like hell. And science doesn't disagree. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 36803473 United States 06/28/2013 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If I was in a death row's shoes, at least juice me up with some painkillers. It's all about pain isn't it? Quoting: The Slavior This thread reminds me of another thread that wondered why the govmt was buying up a shitload of guillotines. [link to shariaunveiled.wordpress.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25873844 United States 06/28/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if I ever get killt, I would prefer the guillotine. it's so fast I bet it almost painless. Quoting: 508527 You are so incredibly wrong. You still have consciousness for several minutes and your heart still beats as well. it is like being paralyzed, seeing your head away from your body and slowly dying. It is a most horrendous death because you are not officially dead until heart beat stops, and oxygen is depleted after your head is lopped off - which takes some time. That's why you can still look around, blink, etc... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 30075865 United States 06/28/2013 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It won't affect the crime rate a bit - guaranteed! Public whippings as is done in some countries (bare ass whippings - not lashings) with a cane on the other hand would and has brought crime rates down! P.S. Awesome pic you have OP........ |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22338936 United States 06/28/2013 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Damrod Really? I disagree with that. Severing the head quickly means the brain is separated from the majority of the nervous system...there would be no pain receptors feeding data to the brain. The most appalling part of the guillotine was the fact that the head and brain were conscious for a few seconds after severance. It takes the brain a few seconds to know the body is dead. Pretty creepy actually. The guillotine was highly efficient though...no energy required. A heavy, razor sharp blade slashes through the neck and spinal cord in a split second...the head tumbles away into a basket where it must realize it is finished... The stories of the head blinking and the eyes looking around are true. The most humane death is where the brain is instantly shut down and destroyed...or it simply is put to sleep and never wakes up. It all depends on how our new masters want us to check out...painlessly and efficiently or with much pain and suffering... The thinning of the population is at hand...they WILL do this...just a matter of how and when. There is nothing to disagree, it is just researched and established fact. Deal with it. I have to now give a resounding "bullshit"...you cannot feel pain detached from the nervous system....neurology 101 dude...I am not saying it is not a trauma to the psyche or consciousness...but there is no fucking pain...you deal with that. First, only MOST of your nervous system is detached. Some of it is in your neck and head, including your brain, brain stem, and part of the spinal cord, which together form the central nervous system (CNS). Second, pain is a sensation that is ultimately delivered by your brain, not your pain receptors. It's the same with other senses: sight is just your brain's interpretations of signals from your eyes, sound is your brain's interpretation of signals from your ears, etc. Phantom limb syndrome is a good example of this: even when all of the nerves responsible for sensation in the severed limb are severed, the limb can still be "felt" by the victim, and often times the sensation is one of pain and discomfort, especially when the limb is lost to trauma. This is real, documented medical science, by the way. Nothing hokey. Third, French experiments showed that at least one victim responded to auditory stimuli for a while after being decapitated, so sensory information IS still being delivered to the brain. So I mean since we can't ask someone whether or not it hurts, we can't REALLY know (unless maybe by doing a brain scan at the moment of decapitation), but I think it would hurt like hell. And science doesn't disagree. Your brain is no longer attached to your body. There is no pain if the CNS is no longer intact, since your brain can no longer receive messages from pain receptors! |
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Bluebird User ID: 27748381 United States 06/28/2013 12:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How practical, some one has actually thought this all out and put it on paper just like the Nazi's, I know lets chop off their heads and sell their organs sick puppies. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42178498 Well, it's a copy from China where they have some method of harvesting the organs immediately. I think they use firing squad, however, so this method here would eliminate all that lead into the environment. One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one. Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway. Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?. . .J. Handy |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8723351 United States 06/28/2013 12:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your brain is no longer attached to your body. There is no pain if the CNS is no longer intact, since your brain can no longer receive messages from pain receptors! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22338936 You don't get it. Re-read the post. Your brain doesn't NEED to be attached to your body to feel pain. Even if there were no pain receptors, all you need is the brain to feel pain, especially after the trauma of decapitation. And the CNS IS still intact except for the most of the spinal cord. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21351810 United States 06/28/2013 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if I ever get killt, I would prefer the guillotine. it's so fast I bet it almost painless. Quoting: 508527 You are so incredibly wrong. You still have consciousness for several minutes and your heart still beats as well. it is like being paralyzed, seeing your head away from your body and slowly dying. It is a most horrendous death because you are not officially dead until heart beat stops, and oxygen is depleted after your head is lopped off - which takes some time. That's why you can still look around, blink, etc... You won't see your head away from your body because you'll have a sack over your head, lol :P |
Rabid Wolf User ID: 42192940 United States 06/28/2013 12:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Georgia lawmaker Doug Teper (Democrat) has proposed a bill to replace the state’s electric chair with the guillotine. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36803473 *snip* Yes, it was read twice and never voted on. It died 17 years ago. Bury the fucker already! [link to www.legis.ga.gov] Unless you can show newly introduced legislation, I call Bull Shit. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21351810 United States 06/28/2013 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your brain is no longer attached to your body. There is no pain if the CNS is no longer intact, since your brain can no longer receive messages from pain receptors! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22338936 You don't get it. Re-read the post. Your brain doesn't NEED to be attached to your body to feel pain. Even if there were no pain receptors, all you need is the brain to feel pain, especially after the trauma of decapitation. And the CNS IS still intact except for the most of the spinal cord. Phantom limb pain does NOT happen instantaneously. It happens much later after the fact, during the recovery process and onward, as the brain is trying to make sense of no longer receiving information from the limb. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 21351810 United States 06/28/2013 12:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Your brain is no longer attached to your body. There is no pain if the CNS is no longer intact, since your brain can no longer receive messages from pain receptors! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22338936 You don't get it. Re-read the post. Your brain doesn't NEED to be attached to your body to feel pain. Even if there were no pain receptors, all you need is the brain to feel pain, especially after the trauma of decapitation. And the CNS IS still intact except for the most of the spinal cord. Phantom limb pain does NOT happen instantaneously. It happens much later after the fact, during the recovery process and onward, as the brain is trying to make sense of no longer receiving information from the limb. ...also, yes, your brain would still be processing auditory and visual stimuli...because your eyes and ears are attached to your head! But any pain felt in the trunk or extremities would not be felt because the messages would never make it to the brain. |