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Types of Thinking. A Primer

 
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Types of Thinking. A Primer
The Dynamic of Mind has to do with the Interplay between

Abstract thoughts received from above (in various fashions) and expressing Universal Principles

and

Concrete Application of those Principles to Perceived Reality.

Correct Discrimination of these two Layers is a hard one to master


Example:

"In reality, everything turns.

Time, Space, Energy, Matter - it all turns. And when something turns through space, across time, it forms a vortex.

A vortex is like a tornado, or the spin of a hurricane, or water going down the drain. Spin, stretched along an axis.

Time also turns in cycles - and moves along an axis. That axis is an axis of consciousness, meaning an energy field that varies in the level of consciousness it supports. Your mind, unless it is extremely strong, is heavily influenced by the energy fields of the Earth. The Earth's energy fields are heavily influenced by those of the Sun. The Sun and the Earth are moving through space in a spiral, effected by radiating energy fields from the center of the Milky Way Galaxy. All those eneregy fields vary in cycles of intensity over time, helping, and then not helping, and then helping again, the stability and growth of consciousness.

And it's all turning, in a vortex.

So, if you're IN a vortex, WHERE you are - matters.

A lot.

If you're in the center, things are still, like the eye of a hurricane.

If you're away from the center, things move faster and faster and faster, until at the edge they are moving fastest of all. And too, the farther away from the center you are, the less inner stability there is to hold together, in addition to being spun faster. So, things tend to be separated, then broken, then ripped apart, as they proceed into the vortex, away from the center.

Now imagine a slowly turning pond filled with small boats. TPTB have slaves to paddle their boats, and they regularly pay these slaves in dead, rotten fish they steal from other boats, by having their slaves paddle them over, and conking the other people on their heads with their paddles and stealing their fish.

The slaves are the members of the secret societies, too lazy to fish. They never eat fresh fish - that's just for the people who actually fish, and TPTB, who have the slaves steal it for them. But the slaves are paid in dead fish instead of having to fish themselves, and so they consider themselves superior because they receive a reliable salary and pension, and get to dream of someday rising to the level of a PTB and eating fresh fish. The fisherpeople, on the other hand, eat fresh fish, but never enough, because it's always stolen by TPTB, and they always have headaches from being conked on the head by paddles.

That's the world as it's been for thousands of years under TPTB. That "social structure" is the "genius" of TPTB.

Abstract Truth. Correct




Okay, now imagine the pond starts to speed up in it's turning. Imagine the whole pond is actually flying through space, and going downhill at the same time, and so as it gets closer and closer to the bottom, it starts to spin faster and faster. Crazy as that sounds, it's very much like what is going on in the time/space/plasma environment of the solar system right now. And the bottom of the hill is the alignment with the axis of the galaxy that takes place on the winter solstice of this year - in a speedup that goes into it's FINAL PHASE starting at the fall equinox in a few weeks.

Concrete application. Fail

So what happens to the boats in the pond? Well, TPTB still try to keep their system going, but getting to the fisherfolk is getting harder and harder, because moving around in the spinning water is getting harder and harder. So TPTB are getting more brutal with their slaves, who have to work harder and harder to get the same amount of fish. And the boats have to be made stronger too, because the water is spinning so hard against them. So that's what TPTB have been doing, using stronger and stronger black magic and spells and demons and technology, to get the same things - but spending WAY more energy to do so.

But the spinning keeps accelerating. Now the pond is spinning so fast the boats have to stay near the center or they simply can't stay together, and the ones near the edge are starting to break up.

The Nobody is sitting at the center of the pond.

He's not "doing" anything.

But theft and thuggery and slavery are not possible at the center of the pond, because such activities inevitably imbalace one's boat, and send it careening off into the now very fast vortex. This was always true, but the results used to be far slower and more recoverable. Now, not so much - and getting worse, fast.

So, the Nobody waits for all these self-proclaimed geniuses to finally get what's happening. That they can't kill the Nobody not because he's all powerful, but because thy're spinning by so fast they can't aim their weapons properly anymore. That the Nobody isn't invincible, he just respects the vortex enough not to fight it, and it, in turn, shows him where to sit safely, in peace. Around, and around and around TPTB and their slaves whirl, faster and faster and faster, gloating that thy've isolated the Nobody, that he can't be a part of their vast power, and they laugh, and party, as their boats start to creak and bend and crack and spin, and the pond speeds up faster and faster and faster towards the bottom of the hill.

And in between the center of the vortex and TPTB with their slaves, are the fisherfolk, who have gotten used to being conked, and rationalized that things aren't so bad if you have the right headache medications, and are really pissed that the fishing isn't as good as it used to be, and are asking each other if anyone wants to agree, as a group, that maybe something is going on that they should collectively look at, after everyone is heard from and a vote is taken and they all come to some sort of agreement that doesn't require any particular fisherperson to decide anything for themselves - given that they also get validation for their collective decision from TPTB, of course.

Around and around and around they all go, where they'll stop, Nobody knows.

But the clock keeps ticking down."

Abstract Again. Correct


Moral of the lesson?
Time is a Hard Key to Master.
And Karma is a Bitch :)

hf

Last Edited by VenusRose on 06/29/2013 03:57 AM
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Those colored fonts give me a headache.

thanks for making it black font

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"We shall not cease from exploration, and the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started and know the place for the first time." - T. S. Eliot
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Those colored fonts give me a headache.
 Quoting: eekers


I agree, can't even get through a paragraph. Nothing personal OP but for some reason it makes me dizzy.
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle.

We are not human beings on a spiritual journey.
We are spiritual beings on a human journey.
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yes bad idea the fonts

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Moral of the lesson?
Time is a Hard Key to Master.
And Karma is a Bitch :)


Yep.
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Occams razor based thinking combined with being smart enough to say i don't know with out shame. Thats my theory on a correct mindset, that and K.I.S.S.

I like it OP. Why chase someone riding a merry-go-round, they'll be back by your way soon enough.
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Occams razor based thinking combined with being smart enough to say i don't know with out shame. Thats my theory on a correct mindset, that and K.I.S.S.

I like it OP. Why chase someone riding a merry-go-round, they'll be back by your way soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003422


what k.i.s.s. refers to? :)

occams rasor is the essential tool of logical kit box

i used it extensively for 10-15 years to clear up the mental ground

so that higher intuition might clearly be heard
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Occams razor based thinking combined with being smart enough to say i don't know with out shame. Thats my theory on a correct mindset, that and K.I.S.S.

I like it OP. Why chase someone riding a merry-go-round, they'll be back by your way soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003422


what k.i.s.s. refers to? :)

occams rasor is the essential tool of logical kit box

i used it extensively for 10-15 years to clear up the mental ground

so that higher intuition might clearly be heard
 Quoting: andreidita


K eep
I t
S imple
S tupid
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K eep
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S imple
S tupid
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hahaha
good one

and how is this principle to be applied? :P
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KISS is bullshit, another attempt to dumb us down and be meek and compliant.

What am I sick of?
I am sick to the gills of people who say, "it cant be done" or "its too hard"

Know what God said to me the one and only time I heard His voice?

"You provide the will, I wil provide the power.

The best way to use the "kiss" principle is to LOL and kick it to the curb..

more asonic tripe...but dont worry..I knwo how to win friends and influence people...

Masons..I cant stand ya.


Anyway..enough of my disdain for te becloaked apron wearing do gooders...

Thin King....

very important.
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ah, now I can read it and respond. Give me a while.
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Occams razor based thinking combined with being smart enough to say i don't know with out shame. Thats my theory on a correct mindset, that and K.I.S.S.

I like it OP. Why chase someone riding a merry-go-round, they'll be back by your way soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003422


what k.i.s.s. refers to? :)

occams rasor is the essential tool of logical kit box

i used it extensively for 10-15 years to clear up the mental ground

so that higher intuition might clearly be heard
 Quoting: andreidita


K eep
I t
S imple
S tupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963044


I f-ing hate that. For some, I suppose, it works when ideologies are based on: Ignorance is Bliss.
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K eep
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S imple
S tupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963044


hahaha
good one

and how is this principle to be applied? :P
 Quoting: andreidita


It is a theory like occams so application is up to you.

Lets say you have bobcats or coyotes attacking people and livestock in an area. Do you rent a helicopter and go hunting with it? Do you set up traps or stay up all night for weeks waiting them out?


Or do you and 5 or 10 people slaughter a hog and leave it in the woods under some tall trees and wait for the pack to show up in mass to feed?

When all or most are their you all open fire at once from your hi=hide in the trees and kill the whole pack in mass.



The above is an example of how we killed a wild pack of dogs and coyotes when i was younger when nothing else would work.
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Occams razor based thinking combined with being smart enough to say i don't know with out shame. Thats my theory on a correct mindset, that and K.I.S.S.

I like it OP. Why chase someone riding a merry-go-round, they'll be back by your way soon enough.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1003422


what k.i.s.s. refers to? :)

occams rasor is the essential tool of logical kit box

i used it extensively for 10-15 years to clear up the mental ground

so that higher intuition might clearly be heard
 Quoting: andreidita


K eep
I t
S imple
S tupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963044


I f-ing hate that. For some, I suppose, it works when ideologies are based on: Ignorance is Bliss.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


how about using it when dealing with other people whose ideologies are that = ignorance is bliss.
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what k.i.s.s. refers to? :)

occams rasor is the essential tool of logical kit box

i used it extensively for 10-15 years to clear up the mental ground

so that higher intuition might clearly be heard
 Quoting: andreidita


K eep
I t
S imple
S tupid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963044


I f-ing hate that. For some, I suppose, it works when ideologies are based on: Ignorance is Bliss.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


how about using it when dealing with other people whose ideologies are that = ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923252


Exactly. The problem is, if KISS is their ideology, then they ignore any other suggestions except the least common denominator. But, as we all know, Keep It Simple Stupid is relative and based on perceptual belief as well. In other words, it is a self dumbing down ideology. I am not equating this with Occam's Razor, as Occam's Razor can breach the confines of simple stupidity, and has the ability to lay rest to the most obvious answer, not the simplest.
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K eep
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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 963044


I f-ing hate that. For some, I suppose, it works when ideologies are based on: Ignorance is Bliss.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


how about using it when dealing with other people whose ideologies are that = ignorance is bliss.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 923252


Exactly. The problem is, if KISS is their ideology, then they ignore any other suggestions except the least common denominator. But, as we all know, Keep It Simple Stupid is relative and based on perceptual belief as well. In other words, it is a self dumbing down ideology. I am not equating this with Occam's Razor, as Occam's Razor can breach the confines of simple stupidity, and has the ability to lay rest to the most obvious answer, not the simplest.
 Quoting: Septenary Man


I look at it like a tool in my belt not to be overlooked.
I could wrestle with that stupid laced seal on the top of the 50 pound dog food bag, or i could just pull my knife off my hip and cut the proper size hole to pour from with one horizontal cut and on short vertical one.

But yeah, it is a lesser form of thinking that should be applied to dumb things individually not the whole.
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sounds to me that tptb are caught in the whirlpool of arbitrary power

between scylla and charybdis
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btw, occam's razor is a principle of abstract logic in specific contexts.

given a specific domain which one wnats to formalize

he should use a minimum of assumptions that completely capture the semantic content

if anyone has done at least some courses of Logics at university level, then he knows how in Natural Deduction one can introduce assumptions by will to prove a Premise

but according to Occam's razor one should not introduce more assumptions than necessary to prove that premise

in real day applied thinking, though
occam's razor stands on the side of Wisdom,
as opposed to over-intelectualizing some situation

there is a saying on this line:

an intelligent man says simple things in complex words
an wise man says complex things in simple words
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as for k.i.s.s.
its value can lay only in very limited practical contexts
with unqualified day-workers which just have to carry a load of stones from here to there.

but in terms of abstract thinking and honest search for understanding, it is a Big NO-NO





GLP