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hmmmmm I bet you are a registered sex offender arent you. You are offended that we don't recognize sex offenders rights to be sex offenders.

I'm on to you
 Quoting: *Evan


Nope. I just don't think it's anyone's business. You fuckers want freedom, privacy, and for the government to stay out of your lives...then you go and try to dictate other's lives? Fuck off.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Nope, you give up your right to freedom and privacy when you rape a 6 yr old. Idiot.
 Quoting: *Evan


Says you. The judge here obviously felt that the guy was perfectly capable of raising his own daughter.
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So we should trust a judge?!
another do pick
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Sex offender awarded custody of 6-year-old girl
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As for his conviction in 1995, Elizondo said he merely took a plea bargain given what he was facing. Elizondo was facing 11 felony charges of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14, but 10 of those were dismissed in exchange for Elizondo pleading no contest to one charge.

"It never happened," said Elizondo of the charge against him.

He said Thursday that police encouraged the child to say incriminating things during the investigation to build a case against him.

The incident happened a few years after Kern County prosecutors tried and juries convicted numerous people on child sex abuse charges, known as the "Witch Hunt" trials. People were given long prison sentenced. Many of those same convictions were later tossed out after an appellate court found the accused had been wrongly convicted. The last of the wrongful conviction lawsuits was settled in March of this year.

During a court hearing in Oklahoma City regarding visitation, the victim, who authorities say was molested by Elizondo, testified that she was never molested.
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I just watched the video. The mom sent her daughter from Oklahoma to California to visit with her "sex offender" father after he got out of jail.

The "victim" later claimed he never molested her.

They dropped 10/11 charges to get him to plea to one. If you-like most on this thread already-tend to believe what you hear on the news (guilty because MSM said so) this shouldn't alarm you. If you have any legal background you know they will not drop 10 sex offenses against a child to get a PLEA BARGAIN on just one charge unless they have no evidence.

Bet you anything the mom and judge knew dad didn't do it.
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And the truth always comes out. Good job AC.

Fuck you haters.

Neg rep me till the fuckers full, see if I give a shit. Stay the fuck out of other people's lives!
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I am confused about something.

If convicted sex offenders are not supposed to be within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds, and have to be on a molester register...then how could it be legal in any way to permit a convicted child molester to have CUSTODY of a child?

Even his biological one?

Is the fact that the child is biological some kind of loophole? What about the fact that most molesters START with their own biological children?

All the "mind your own beeswax" crap aside...WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LEGAL ANSWER HERE? Do we have any lawyers or judges on here that can explain this?

For the slow: How is it possible to give a convicted child molester custody when the LAW says child molesters are supposed to stay a certain distance away from children?

I'm not EVEN talking morality here, just the hard, cold, objective facts.
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As for his conviction in 1995, Elizondo said he merely took a plea bargain given what he was facing. Elizondo was facing 11 felony charges of lewd and lascivious acts with a child under 14, but 10 of those were dismissed in exchange for Elizondo pleading no contest to one charge.

"It never happened," said Elizondo of the charge against him.

He said Thursday that police encouraged the child to say incriminating things during the investigation to build a case against him.

The incident happened a few years after Kern County prosecutors tried and juries convicted numerous people on child sex abuse charges, known as the "Witch Hunt" trials. People were given long prison sentenced. Many of those same convictions were later tossed out after an appellate court found the accused had been wrongly convicted. The last of the wrongful conviction lawsuits was settled in March of this year.

During a court hearing in Oklahoma City regarding visitation, the victim, who authorities say was molested by Elizondo, testified that she was never molested.
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I just watched the video. The mom sent her daughter from Oklahoma to California to visit with her "sex offender" father after he got out of jail.

The "victim" later claimed he never molested her.

They dropped 10/11 charges to get him to plea to one. If you-like most on this thread already-tend to believe what you hear on the news (guilty because MSM said so) this shouldn't alarm you. If you have any legal background you know they will not drop 10 sex offenses against a child to get a PLEA BARGAIN on just one charge unless they have no evidence.

Bet you anything the mom and judge knew dad didn't do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559772


And the truth always comes out. Good job AC.

Fuck you haters.

Neg rep me till the fuckers full, see if I give a shit. Stay the fuck out of other people's lives!
 Quoting: higherconscience


So he pleaded guilty to a sex crime is basically what I see.

I wouldn't plead guilty to a sex crime if I didn't do it.

Fail on your part pedo boy
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The Judge, Howard Haralson, is evidently a deviant himself who fully supports pedophilia. The pervert needs to be thrown out of office.
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Everyone needs to get on this, this woman needs help.
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Okay, there you go then.

You know, I can't speak to whether or not the guy was actually guilty. But I knew something was going to come out about him being "actually convicted and found guilty of" the molestation.

Because while I am sure there are a lot of corrupt and just plain dumb judges out there, I am 100% sure that none of them would be able to slip a blatant violation of the sex offender laws by in the courthouse.

Look at the little roar they got here. You know, you may have a few idiot judges in a courthouse but there are a few good ones too. And those review and see what other judges do.
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I am confused about something.

If convicted sex offenders are not supposed to be within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds, and have to be on a molester register...then how could it be legal in any way to permit a convicted child molester to have CUSTODY of a child?

Even his biological one?

Is the fact that the child is biological some kind of loophole? What about the fact that most molesters START with their own biological children?

All the "mind your own beeswax" crap aside...WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LEGAL ANSWER HERE? Do we have any lawyers or judges on here that can explain this?

For the slow: How is it possible to give a convicted child molester custody when the LAW says child molesters are supposed to stay a certain distance away from children?

I'm not EVEN talking morality here, just the hard, cold, objective facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34874741


For one thing, the law varies from state to state. Just because someone has to register does not mean they cannot have contact with children. The LAW in some states does not particularly stipulate what I have in bold text in the quote from you.

Of course, I don't CONDONE any of the behavior or actions with what led to the guy's conviction... but as AC above pointed out, it sounds like it was all BS from the beginning anyways.

I hope this guy can take care of his kid and renew his relationship with her if in fact he has been innocent this whole time.
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UH NO! He was convicted of raping his daughter!

You don't just sit by and watch something horrific happen to a child. It's everyone's business and responsibility. You never turn a blind eye when it comes to the welfare of a child. Ever.

I wonder what kind of life you lead to make such a statement.

Thank you to OP for posting contacts to protest. Yes 'flood the phones!'
 Quoting: Sloane


Step daughter. NOT daughter. Beside the point anyways.

I didn't say anything about turning a blind eye. Perhaps there's information that you and the general public isn't privy to when it comes to the judge's decision, hmm?

GTFO. Raise your own kids how you see fit and fuck off with telling others how to raise theirs.
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Never.
 Quoting: Sloane


I knew it. You people just can't leave well enough alone.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Children can't protect themselves from sexual predators. It is left up to others to do so, who care enough. Not stand by and do nothing.

Somebody like this in my community just went down - because we couldn't/wouldn't 'leave it alone'. Couldn't put him in prison but removed him from elementary school 'security guard.' Sickening situation but I will spare you the details.

And what is 'well enough' about this situation 'higherconscience'?

And how is it you call yourself that?
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Personally, I believe lots of the judges are pedophiles, or at least sympathetic to pedophiles. This is not the first type of thing in Oklahoma.
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I am confused about something.

If convicted sex offenders are not supposed to be within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds, and have to be on a molester register...then how could it be legal in any way to permit a convicted child molester to have CUSTODY of a child?

Even his biological one?

Is the fact that the child is biological some kind of loophole? What about the fact that most molesters START with their own biological children?

All the "mind your own beeswax" crap aside...WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LEGAL ANSWER HERE? Do we have any lawyers or judges on here that can explain this?

For the slow: How is it possible to give a convicted child molester custody when the LAW says child molesters are supposed to stay a certain distance away from children?

I'm not EVEN talking morality here, just the hard, cold, objective facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34874741


For one thing, the law varies from state to state. Just because someone has to register does not mean they cannot have contact with children. The LAW in some states does not particularly stipulate what I have in bold text in the quote from you.

Of course, I don't CONDONE any of the behavior or actions with what led to the guy's conviction... but as AC above pointed out, it sounds like it was all BS from the beginning anyways.

I hope this guy can take care of his kid and renew his relationship with her if in fact he has been innocent this whole time.
 Quoting: higherconscience


See, you hope everything is ok with the dad....we all pray the little girl isn't his next victim.
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Step daughter. NOT daughter. Beside the point anyways.

I didn't say anything about turning a blind eye. Perhaps there's information that you and the general public isn't privy to when it comes to the judge's decision, hmm?

GTFO. Raise your own kids how you see fit and fuck off with telling others how to raise theirs.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Never.
 Quoting: Sloane


I knew it. You people just can't leave well enough alone.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Children can't protect themselves from sexual predators.

I understand that point. Not arguing against it.It is left up to others to do so, who care enough. Not stand by and do nothing.

Somebody like this in my community just went down - because we couldn't/wouldn't 'leave it alone'. Couldn't put him in prison but removed him from elementary school 'security guard.' Sickening situation but I will spare you the details.

And what is 'well enough' about this situation 'higherconscience'?

Supposing the guy was actually guilty of a crime, he paid the price for it already. Oh, he's supposed to stay in a mental jail for the rest of his life? Get the fuck out of here.


And how is it you call yourself that?

You wouldn't even understand, that's pretty obvious. I look at things in a much different way than most- and it would take a lifetime to explain that to you.
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I am confused about something.

If convicted sex offenders are not supposed to be within a certain distance of schools and playgrounds, and have to be on a molester register...then how could it be legal in any way to permit a convicted child molester to have CUSTODY of a child?

Even his biological one?

Is the fact that the child is biological some kind of loophole? What about the fact that most molesters START with their own biological children?

All the "mind your own beeswax" crap aside...WHAT IS THE ACTUAL LEGAL ANSWER HERE? Do we have any lawyers or judges on here that can explain this?

For the slow: How is it possible to give a convicted child molester custody when the LAW says child molesters are supposed to stay a certain distance away from children?

I'm not EVEN talking morality here, just the hard, cold, objective facts.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34874741


For one thing, the law varies from state to state. Just because someone has to register does not mean they cannot have contact with children. The LAW in some states does not particularly stipulate what I have in bold text in the quote from you.

Of course, I don't CONDONE any of the behavior or actions with what led to the guy's conviction... but as AC above pointed out, it sounds like it was all BS from the beginning anyways.

I hope this guy can take care of his kid and renew his relationship with her if in fact he has been innocent this whole time.
 Quoting: higherconscience


See, you hope everything is ok with the dad....we all pray the little girl isn't his next victim.
 Quoting: *Evan


The kid's well being was implied. Of course I hope she's OK as well.
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: Sloane


clappa
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I just watched the video. The mom sent her daughter from Oklahoma to California to visit with her "sex offender" father after he got out of jail.

The "victim" later claimed he never molested her.

They dropped 10/11 charges to get him to plea to one. If you-like most on this thread already-tend to believe what you hear on the news (guilty because MSM said so) this shouldn't alarm you. If you have any legal background you know they will not drop 10 sex offenses against a child to get a PLEA BARGAIN on just one charge unless they have no evidence.

Bet you anything the mom and judge knew dad didn't do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35559772


And the truth always comes out. Good job AC.

Fuck you haters.

Neg rep me till the fuckers full, see if I give a shit. Stay the fuck out of other people's lives!
 Quoting: higherconscience


So he pleaded guilty to a sex crime is basically what I see.

I wouldn't plead guilty to a sex crime if I didn't do it.

Fail on your part pedo boy
 Quoting: *Evan


Uh, you might. If you stood to get out in 5 years vs. 50, you'd be surprised what you'll do.

You called me "pedo" because I have dealt with numerous situations like this and know how the world (courts/juries) work.

"Better for a millstone to be hanged around their neck and tossed into the sea rather to offend one of these little ones."

We're on the same moral side-unfortunately, when people are accused of "raping a child" they tend to get convicted by emotional jurors no matter what(they don't make the 6 year old victim testify against the adult). Accordingly, they are told by their attorneys to "take the deal or get raped for the rest of your life in jail."

Truth.
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If you want to control &/or undermine a country but remain hidden, start by controlling its financial, legal & political system.

If you want to control a countries legal system, get into a position where you decide who ultimately dispenses justice (a key political position?).

The same rules apply to politics, law enforcement, the military.. etc etc.

It should come as no shock to anyone now that there are sex offenders at the highest levels, but why sex? Well, that's simple. If you want control of someone, you find a weakness in their character & exploit it. That weakness can't be something like greed because for starters, it would be very obvious that a judge can't afford a private jet for example. It couldn't be alcohol because even the cleverest alcoholic is a blundering asshole once in a while. It certainly could never be drugs because drug addicts are unpredictable & could not be relied upon to function routinely.

So that leaves (questionably) the most addictive thing on Earth: sex. No hangover or withdrawal that would make a person incapable of functioning. It also has the added advantage of being an extremely corrupting potential in certain individuals (see judge named in this case)...

A pedophile.

Make no mistake, our countries are under a corrosive attack from within. Look for the people at the top who decide who does what further down. Find the keystones & then find out who's feeding their particular 'habit'
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Shelly MorrisonNEW2 days ago
Whatthefuck!?!?­! That judge should be shot! Is he also a child molester and the dad is going to let him participate? Omg.... I'm speechless!
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Its a bad crime to threaten a judge.

Its not against the law to wish or hope a person dies because of standing case law.

But what you did there was at-least conspiracy to commit.
you gave an offer " should be shot" so that somebody would take up your request for self gratification as payment.

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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
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You shouldn't use such absolutes.

Educate yourself.
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He's done it before, he WILL do it again.
Pedophilia is not something that can be wished away, or cured. There is no way he can be trusted alone with a child EVER.
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:AGRREEE:
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
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clappa
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ALWAYS..ALWAYS REPEAT THE OFFENSE...ALWAYS.
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
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You shouldn't use such absolutes.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Well I think I understand where you are coming from. And I hope you are the exception. I really do. Most abusers suffered the same way themselves in childhood. It's a terrible cycle. If someone is able to break it, more power to them.
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Well at least this thread is exposing piece of shit pedo sympathizers. Note to all of you: Please hang yourselves.
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Shelly MorrisonNEW2 days ago
Whatthefuck!?!?­! That judge should be shot! Is he also a child molester and the dad is going to let him participate? Omg.... I'm speechless!
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Its a bad crime to threaten a judge.
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Only if he's black or a muzzie in the New AmeriKa.
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wtf
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There is a VERY good chance that the father was railroaded and convicted due to the mother in the first place.

Juries love to side with a mother who can put on a good show and believe me no child would be taken from a mother and put in harms way without THOROUH checking by the family courts.

Most likely the mom set up the father and has finally screwed up enough that the child is in danger.
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Convicted sex offenders adopt kids everyday and now they can legally marry. Homos!
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Convicted sex offenders adopt kids everyday and now they can legally marry. Homos!
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ummmmmmmmmm no
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
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You shouldn't use such absolutes.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: higherconscience


And six years does not cure a child of the psychological problems they incur at the hands of a sexual predator. Most are haunted for life, and many live at a fraction of their potential, or become offenders themselves. The cost to society is huge.
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There is a VERY good chance that the father was railroaded and convicted due to the mother in the first place.

Juries love to side with a mother who can put on a good show and believe me no child would be taken from a mother and put in harms way without THOROUH checking by the family courts.

Most likely the mom set up the father and has finally screwed up enough that the child is in danger.
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+1.

It's too easy to lock someone up and forget about them when it comes to cases like this, unfortunately. ...because everyone jumps on the emotional bandwagon and says "BUT THE KIDS!!!! DO IT FOR THE KIDS!!!" without trying to think rationally.
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I was not in the court room , I didn't not hear either case.
Ill leave the judgments to the professionals.Im sure the judge had all parties best interest at heart.

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