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Convicted sex offender gets sole custody of 6-year-old daughter

 
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More harsh than supporting child rape? I think not.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


You all skipped right over the part where I clearly said multiple times I DO NOT CONDONE SUCH BEHAVIOR!

Sheesh.. y'all are blind as bats!

No, you're actually just too stuck in your ways and like to jump on people any chance you get as long as it fits your agenda.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Yeah I skipped right to the part where you were all happy about some cultures being fine with no age limits.

Fuck them and fuck you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


1. I never claimed to be happy or not happy with it. Just giving you some information.

2. How kind of you, sweetheart. Maybe one day you'll open your eyes. Maybe it will take death of your physical body to see clearer. Who knows?

I'll send some positive energy your way, AC. Seems you need it more than I.
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Go NAMBLA shill
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Personally, I believe lots of the judges are pedophiles, or at least sympathetic to pedophiles. This is not the first type of thing in Oklahoma.
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Pedos are swarming in the upper echelons of society, judges, politicians, business men.

Over here convicted pedos (thats "served their time" but we all know there's no such thing as served their time with this crime) may work in schools, daycare centers etc.
Pedopoliticians and and other pedos made sure of that.
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New record low. Fucking hell.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


It's crazy.

Here's an article in english about it:
[link to www.thelocal.se]

the people in the injustice systems built in the loopholes for their pedo friedns.
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higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: Sloane

He has already educated himself about how natural baby raping is in the animal kingdom and primitive cultures. He wants to educate us about leaving pedophiles alone.
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AC - I'd give you a karma point for that remark if you were registered.

peace

higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: Sloane

He has already educated himself about how natural baby raping is in the animal kingdom and primitive cultures. He wants to educate us about leaving pedophiles alone.
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Yup!

You have the layout right according to the way I read the pleadings, Hannah50.

Whew! It's a mess in more ways than one.
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This story isn't making sense to me.

From Story:
"OKLAHOMA CITY — In California, just six years ago, Nicholas Elizondo was convicted for *raping his then six-year-old daughter*. He took a deal and *served six years in jail*. During that time his ex-wife, Lisa Knight, has been raising their daughter *Sarah* in Norman."

So, Sarah is now 12 years old.

From Story:
"“I just know that *his victim* was six-years-old at the time and *Sarah is six-years-old right now*,” said Knight."

Did he rape his daughter or not? How is Sarah six years old right now if she was raped six years ago when she was six?
There are also a whole lot of sixes going on.

I don't mean to be defending the man's actions, no child should have to experience molestation of any type. It's just that the time line of the story is confused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3015251



The girl he molested was his 6 year old STEP daughter.

The one he is getting custody of is his own biological 6 year old daughter.

Watch the video.
 Quoting: LittleMissDictator


Don't worry AC, it's not your fault for not understanding - this is really bad writing - and it's becoming more and more prevalent...
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There will be casualties.

You do get to choose your side. I chose the Bright Side where my God fights for me.

Others chose the Dark Side and fight for an entity that views them with disdain and discards them.
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The Judge, Howard Haralson, is evidently a deviant himself who fully supports pedophilia. The pervert needs to be thrown out of office.
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Well, unfortunately, this judge reflects the antichrist and immoral beliefs of our supreme court my friends. Get used to these types of decisions. The homosexual gay lobby wants to suppress these types of stories as they illustrate with clarity the result of what their values are.
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Never fuck with a father

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 11:3

King James Version (KJV)
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G-d will punish you for your words are turning people away from g-d...
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He quotes the Bible and you say he's gonna get punished? Check yoself. -.-
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Never fuck with a father

But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.

1 Corinthians 11:3

King James Version (KJV)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8943526


G-d will punish you for your words are turning people away from g-d...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42484050


He quotes the Bible and you say he's gonna get punished? Check yoself. -.-
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40322488


Gee, was that Jesus in 1 Corinthians? No? What did Jesus say about hurting children? Irreverent quotes are irreverent. Note the spelling.
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The judge might also motivated to get the girl out of the county if she is on Medicaid (sounds like she has a lot of doctors, it might help the county budget considerably to ship her off to Cali)

[link to www.medicaid.gov]

The legal equitant of a bus ticket for the mentally ill?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


During a court hearing in Oklahoma City regarding visitation, the victim, who authorities say was molested by Elizondo, testified that she was never molested.

( you might want to re-read that )


In other words he was one of about three dozen OTHER people who were wrongly convicted by police and a prosecutor who had a nasty habit of encouraging children to lie in court.


It's referred to as the "Kern County Witch Hunt" and he was one of the poor son of a bitches who got caught up in it.

Here's an article about it. [link to www.bakersfieldnow.com]


The reason he was given custody is because HE'S INNOCENT
The person he was convicted of molesting testified in court that it never happened and that she was pressured into lying by the police and prosecutor.
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If he were INNOCENT, he wouldn't have a conviction on his record. And he'd have millions in the bank.

Since that's not the case, stick it in your shilltastic ass.
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Bolded way below...was that at me? If so, thanks. I look forward to your 'details'...

Ha! I guess we 'trusted' in CPS, right? Our bad. And I'm not being derogatory towards your post...just sayin' we have agencies in place that are SUPPOSED to watch out for the welfare of children in these sorts of situations. We as citizens are obligated to report any SUSPECTED abuse. We don't even need proof, only the suspicion! And they'll take care of the rest. Yes, you have a good point. "They" are taking care of it, and the collective "we" are not.

Fiona is doing an amazing job at blasting it across her community and getting it on the internet.

I tell ya what, you start the organization and I'll sign up and write the letters....and protest in the street.

peace

Say that to the McMartin parents. I respect your message, but really people have, and do try. Read up on the McMartin child molestation trial - the parents fought tooth and nail and were still told by the system that they were in need of therapy, delusional, lying...the organized underground of pedophilia won. Even though the parents found the tunnels under the school that the children spoke of.

Bill Medley's ex-wife was murdered hours after dropping their son off at the school. One has to wonder what she walked in on.

An ongoing and recent thread here. Fiona IS a hero fighting, and many other's do too.
Thread: Elite PEDOPHILE Ring/SRA/MK-Ultra WHISTLEBLOWER

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 Quoting: hannah50


It's individuals against a system. Not that people here and there don't try, it's that there isn't really a sustained, serious, broad based and legally supported real solution. It's something that could be changed, but lots of people would have to work together, across other (media enraged) topics.
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You're cool. Thanks for letting me know at least some people here care. Details to follow.
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The judge might also motivated to get the girl out of the county if she is on Medicaid (sounds like she has a lot of doctors, it might help the county budget considerably to ship her off to Cali)

[link to www.medicaid.gov]

The legal equitant of a bus ticket for the mentally ill?
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


During a court hearing in Oklahoma City regarding visitation, the victim, who authorities say was molested by Elizondo, testified that she was never molested.

( you might want to re-read that )


In other words he was one of about three dozen OTHER people who were wrongly convicted by police and a prosecutor who had a nasty habit of encouraging children to lie in court.


It's referred to as the "Kern County Witch Hunt" and he was one of the poor son of a bitches who got caught up in it.

Here's an article about it. [link to www.bakersfieldnow.com]


The reason he was given custody is because HE'S INNOCENT
The person he was convicted of molesting testified in court that it never happened and that she was pressured into lying by the police and prosecutor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42501539


No, he was several yrs after the Kern County Witch Hunt.

Snipped; [link to www.bakersfieldnow.com]

The incident happened a few years after Kern County prosecutors tried and juries convicted numerous people on child sex abuse charges,

And I don't think an innocent man would have had 11 felony charges pled down to one that he would plead no contest to. He would have denied them all regardless.
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Spread this monsters picture around as well!
[link to www.oklahomacounty.org]
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Damn,he looks like a perv
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Wow my state is retarded.

"Hey lets give a convicted sex offender his daughter back, that sounds like a good idea" Said nobody ever.
 Quoting: *Evan


a court said that he isnot to be around children. The judge broke the law, and should be arrested and brought to court.

Better yet, if the pedophile is around any child, anyone can call the police on him. He has to register. If you have the court order in your hand, when the police arrive, what can they do, but obey the law, and if they donot, you can take them to court, as an accomplice to a crime.- same with that insane judge. What is his name? What is his religion?

The lawyers love stuff like this, theyare making money hand over fist on the psychological rape of this little girl and her mother.

We have two religions in this Nation that believe in using little girls as sex objects. Here is an example of these demons of the lust of the flesh:
[link to www.angelfire.com]
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That OP article is poorly written.

It says he took a plea deal, but was he actually CONVICTED of the rape or did he plead to a lesser offense? It would seem to me that rape should have landed him in prison a lot longer.

The child he is getting custody of now is not the victim, though the article seems to go out of the way to not make that clear.

The article also goes on to mix in a story of another sex offender victimizing the daughter in the custody dispute.

So in other words, the mother got pregnant by a man on trial for raping his daughter. That mother then fails to protect her child from a brother who must have attacked her while the father was in prison.

I dunno, something stinks about this story. I think it's a propaganda piece.
 Quoting: Cobra Commander


Sadly the six years is not unusual. Once again the punishment is not enough to fit the crime.

And the fact that the child he's gotten custody of is not the child he 'raped' makes it no less of an outrage. What? Are you kidding me?
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This is what we have become. My grandchildren were raped and tortured by their dad. We are still fighting the courts for custody. This is our government. What do I say but call in the artillery. This country is sick beyond healing. This whole world is sick. I pray for the pole shift to happen. I pray for the earth and for the children.
damma
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This is what we have become. My grandchildren were raped and tortured by their dad. We are still fighting the courts for custody. This is our government. What do I say but call in the artillery. This country is sick beyond healing. This whole world is sick. I pray for the pole shift to happen. I pray for the earth and for the children.
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So very sorry


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Spread this monsters picture around as well!
[link to www.oklahomacounty.org]
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that filty thing got one cherry; now he is hot for another:

he wants his own daughter's hymen.
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OKLAHOMA CITY — In California, just six years ago, Nicholas Elizondo was convicted for raping his then six-year-old daughter. He took a deal and served six years in jail. During that time his ex-wife, Lisa Knight, has been raising their daughter Sarah in Norman.

After six years of little contact with Sarah, he started fighting for sole custody. Yesterday, he won.

[link to kfor.com]

Flood the phones:


Oklahoma Judicial Complaint Mailing Address
Oklahoma Council on Judicial Complaints
1901 North Lincoln Boulevard
Oklahoma City, OK 73105

Telephone
877-873-7468
 Quoting: TheRollsRoyceTrent


This is terrible!!!! talk about corrupt?? I bet the judge didn't realize it would go viral like this!!! Hopefully something will happen for this child and mother! I don't know about you - but I'd take my baby and run for the hills or caves and I've have plenty of friends/acquaintances to help hide me, too!
Don't get mad - Get a Pepsi!
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Why is this not pinned? Was it pinned and I missed it earlier? I think we should have this pinned and keep checking on this case!

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Spread this monsters picture around as well!
[link to www.oklahomacounty.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21033400


that filty thing got one cherry; now he is hot for another:

he wants his own daughter's hymen.
[link to www.angelfire.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28397909


or perhaps that is how the pedophile was awarded the little girl, by promising her hymen to him, the judge.

None to most of you here have no idea how these pedophile rings operate. None of you know how really sick, twisted, murderous and perverted these people are.

One of the worse i remember is a piece of inhuman scum had sex with a very young, pregnant girl while she was in labor, giving birth . . . she bled to death from that. "They" walked out of the room with the baby, and the baby was probably used for a snuff movie (fucked to death, while still dripping wet and bloody from the womb) . . . you can bet they made nearly a million bucks on that one, and some fat pig is jerking off to that snuff movie, right now as we speak.
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Ok, I'm fucking lost now.

1. Step daughter (molested, then retracted)
2. Sarah, (bio daughter) he's just won custody of
3. An older daughter that supervised visits (born prior to #1)???

4. A son that touched Sarah while she was visiting CA
5. A son before this that supervised visitation rights

Is this the layout of siblings? Please correct if wrong.

For Hannah50:

It is my understanding that he molested his step-daughter. If it was another daughter I don't think she would be of an age yet to supervise visitation. The pleadings appear to refer to adult children that were from an earlier relationship unrelated to the sexual abuse allegations. The boy who may have inappropriately touched her is another child with another woman and appears to be a minor. These people get around. It is so common these days for people to have serial relationships, many of which produce children. Very unstable. We are not living in a Ward and June Cleaver world anymore, if we ever did. I rather like to think we might have, for a while anyway.
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 Quoting: hannah50


i will make it easy for you

This piece of inhuman filth is a hymen hunter

he took his step-daugher's cherry, and now he is about to take his own daughter's hymen
[link to www.angelfire.com]
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Ok, I'm fucking lost now.

1. Step daughter (molested, then retracted)
2. Sarah, (bio daughter) he's just won custody of
3. An older daughter that supervised visits (born prior to #1)???

4. A son that touched Sarah while she was visiting CA
5. A son before this that supervised visitation rights

Is this the layout of siblings? Please correct if wrong.

For Hannah50:

It is my understanding that he molested his step-daughter. If it was another daughter I don't think she would be of an age yet to supervise visitation. The pleadings appear to refer to adult children that were from an earlier relationship unrelated to the sexual abuse allegations. The boy who may have inappropriately touched her is another child with another woman and appears to be a minor. These people get around. It is so common these days for people to have serial relationships, many of which produce children. Very unstable. We are not living in a Ward and June Cleaver world anymore, if we ever did. I rather like to think we might have, for a while anyway.
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i will make it easy for you

This piece of inhuman filth is a hymen hunter

he took his step-daugher's cherry, and now he is about to take his own daughter's hymen
[link to www.angelfire.com]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28397909


and then he will take his grandchildren's cherries, and if he lives long enough, his great grandchilren's cherries.
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Why is this not pinned? Was it pinned and I missed it earlier? I think we should have this pinned and keep checking on this case!

bump
 Quoting: *HAARP Lady*


because we donot want to step on the toes of the pedophiles' . . . now do we ! ! ! that would be a sad loss of cash money tsk tsk
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You all skipped right over the part where I clearly said multiple times I DO NOT CONDONE SUCH BEHAVIOR!

Sheesh.. y'all are blind as bats!

No, you're actually just too stuck in your ways and like to jump on people any chance you get as long as it fits your agenda.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Yeah I skipped right to the part where you were all happy about some cultures being fine with no age limits.

Fuck them and fuck you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37530539


1. I never claimed to be happy or not happy with it. Just giving you some information.

2. How kind of you, sweetheart. Maybe one day you'll open your eyes. Maybe it will take death of your physical body to see clearer. Who knows?

I'll send some positive energy your way, AC. Seems you need it more than I.
 Quoting: higherconscience


Go NAMBLA shill
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Not a shill for one. For two, NAMBLA has nothing to do with this since there wasn't a man and a boy involved, but a man and supposedly a girl.
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The fucker just does not want to pay child support.

Seriously, how in the hell is it even logical to take a child away from the parent who has been raising it for 6 years and give it to the parent that has not seen it in 6 years? This would be fucked up even if the loser wasn't a convicted child sex offender but the fact that the loser is certainly ups the fucked uped ness of the situation.
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Elizondo must have promised the judge some kid candy.
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Re: Convicted sex offender gets sole custody of 6-year-old daughter
higherconscience - yes I believe in second chances. Just not with child sex offenders.

They repeat always. Six years in jail doesn't cure them.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: Sloane


You shouldn't use such absolutes.

Educate yourself.
 Quoting: higherconscience


And six years does not cure a child of the psychological problems they incur at the hands of a sexual predator. Most are haunted for life, and many live at a fraction of their potential, or become offenders themselves. The cost to society is huge.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1545892


It seems that this guy was falsely accused in the first place, hence none of what you say applies in this case.

I won't even go in depth about how the "haunting" you speak of is a result of how Western society deals with such things in the first place.

Again, I'm not saying I condone such behavior or acts- but there are plenty of cultures where two consenting people regardless of age ain't nothin' but a thing.

Perhaps it's "society" that has the problem...

On a level that most people cannot or will not stop to think about rationally, provided two people regardless of age consented to such behavior and it wasn't "forbidden"- there really isn't as much "wrong" with it as one would think.

Besides possible impregnation between two blood relatives causing DNA or other related problems, anyways.

In the animal kingdom these acts are perfectly natural. Spare me the lecture about how we are different as humans. If you don't understand my point, then just skip past this post.
 Quoting: higherconscience


So, you actually are the judge who made the ruling?

It cannot happen, but every man should have to grow up
as a girl first, and remember ever single experience,
before they become men.

Fuck you.
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Re: Convicted sex offender gets sole custody of 6-year-old daughter
The reason he was given custody is because HE'S INNOCENT
The person he was convicted of molesting testified in court that it never happened and that she was pressured into lying by the police and prosecutor.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42501539


In cases like that, the prosecutor may be a pedo who is projecting his fantasies onto the children.

He may be using them to relive previous abuse scenarios, and experience "ecstatic recall"

[link to seattletimes.com]

Has anyone looked into the prosecutors motivations, if the charges were indeed false (which much not be established, as the fathers record has not been cleared)





GLP