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Christians... The church is dead.

 
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Those who know all the answers haven't heard all the questions.
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And you're the one who thinks they have all the answers.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


I read all the Urantia book eight years ago. You should read it all one time before critising it's teachings..
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I've read enough of it and was attempted to be indoctrinated with it as a kid to have tried the spirits... And there is nothing Godly, wholesome, or meaningful about that wicked book. It is a black hole of "knowledge" that is smoke and mirrors... It looks like a marvel... It's really a turd.
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Find the Lords Recovery in your local area that is where the real, sincere believers is.It is a movement that was started by Watchman Nee a chinese man who got thrown into prison and his tongue cut out for his believes.His disciple Witness Lee came the US to share the truth there, but was rejected by mainstream christianity.They said it was a cult.Today the christian research institute admit they were wrong about them.These two men suffered a great deal for Gods message almost like the disciples of old. The teaching is about recovering what was lost in new christianity and they are against denominations ,because to be in a denomination is to be in division and there should be unity in the body of christ. So when you are in division you are not in the body.So you need to come out of Babylon ,but you need to function in the body.I have felt exactly the same as some of you and prayed to the Lord to show me the truth and this is where He lead me.I just thought to share this and just the fact that you realise that there is something wrong with modern christianity proofs that you are chosen to be part of the bride of christ, but you still need to get into the true church.
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The true church? The invisible body of believers. Nothing more... Nothing less... No dogma... No elaborate doctrine... Again, do not forget the simplicity of Christ.
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Do not forget the simplicity of Christ.... I think that succinctly addresses all of the new age crap and even worse this Urantia deception I've had the profound displeasure of being raised around. People who read that pile of channeled filth are always smug... Like they have some special secret knowledge that only they understand.
 Quoting: ThoughtFelony


This highlights a point I keep raising as well: the pride, the condesention. They think that the Bible and Christianity is "kindergarden", while they have "graduated" and "evolved" to "higher" levels of understanding. I think they have their directions backwards.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


You just described EXACLY how most chistians treat people..for the same reasons.

Hypocrite.

Ive seen some of the condescending crap you and others dish out to the "Uneducated" or unenlightened masses you so smugly look down on and condemn.

You are so good at spotting this trait in those who are into the Urantia garbage..but you fail miserbaly to see that you act the SAME WAY yourself..thinking yourself so special and enlightened and NOT doomed..like all those filthy unwashed sinners you hate so much with your site and arrogance.

Hypocrite.
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Urantians don't get it... They can't see the simple truth... They need something complex.
 Quoting: ThoughtFelony


Sorry my brother but my belif in the Urantia revelation isn't only in my head. I'm fifty years old and i gave totaly my life to God/Jesus at seventeen years old. I gave my life to him to do what he wants. I know him personaly. I feel Him within me. I have the assurance that my soul will survive after my physical death.

Be sincere with yourself and with God spirits. Seek God all the time.
Said Jesus: Become perfect as the Father is perfect..
 Quoting: Orange


I'm 55, at 15 told God my life belonged to him to do with as he pleased, I know him personally, I feel him with me, and I have assurance-- based not on wishes or feelings but on His Word-- that my soul will survive after I leave this life.

And none of it came from any book but the Bible. No meditation, no rituals, no pretend religious texts.

Seek the Way, the Truth, the Life, the One who rose from the dead. It is only through his righteousness and perfection that anyone else can have it, for those who trust him alone to save them.

Be true to God and to the revealed words of Jesus; ditch urantia.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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You just described EXACLY how most chistians treat people..for the same reasons.

Hypocrite.

Ive seen some of the condescending crap you and others dish out to the "Uneducated" or unenlightened masses you so smugly look down on and condemn.

You are so good at spotting this trait in those who are into the Urantia garbage..but you fail miserbaly to see that you act the SAME WAY yourself..thinking yourself so special and enlightened and NOT doomed..like all those filthy unwashed sinners you hate so much with your site and arrogance.

Hypocrite.
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Troll. Obsessed, hateful, bitter troll. Can't leave Christians alone, can't say a civil word to them, unless they get one of those who betray their own fellow believers and affirm your hatred.

Last Edited by Keep2theCode on 06/29/2013 08:06 PM
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Urantians don't get it... They can't see the simple truth... They need something complex.
 Quoting: ThoughtFelony


Sorry my brother but my belif in the Urantia revelation isn't only in my head. I'm fifty years old and i gave totaly my life to God/Jesus at seventeen years old. I gave my life to him to do what he wants. I know him personaly. I feel Him within me. I have the assurance that my soul will survive after my physical death.

Be sincere with yourself and with God spirits. Seek God all the time.
Said Jesus: Become perfect as the Father is perfect..
 Quoting: Orange


I'm 55, at 15 told God my life belonged to him to do with as he pleased, I know him personally, I feel him with me, and I have assurance-- based not on wishes or feelings but on His Word-- that my soul will survive after I leave this life.

And none of it came from any book but the Bible. No meditation, no rituals, no pretend religious texts.

Seek the Way, the Truth, the Life, the One who rose from the dead. It is only through his righteousness and perfection that anyone else can have it, for those who trust him alone to save them.

Be true to God and to the revealed words of Jesus; ditch urantia.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Wow..yu finally said something true without being all smug and arrogant.

maybe there is hope for you yet.
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Wow..yu finally said something true without being all smug and arrogant.

maybe there is hope for you yet.
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Why must you keep baiting me? Why must you continually judge me?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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You just described EXACLY how most chistians treat people..for the same reasons.

Hypocrite.

Ive seen some of the condescending crap you and others dish out to the "Uneducated" or unenlightened masses you so smugly look down on and condemn.

You are so good at spotting this trait in those who are into the Urantia garbage..but you fail miserbaly to see that you act the SAME WAY yourself..thinking yourself so special and enlightened and NOT doomed..like all those filthy unwashed sinners you hate so much with your site and arrogance.

Hypocrite.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776


Troll. Obsessed, hateful, bitter troll. Can't leave Christians alone, can't say a civil word to them, unless they get one of those who betray their own fellow believers and affirm your hatred.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Truth getting to you s it?

Should I dig up some of your arrogant hateful remarks like I had to do to Mr Irish to make the pooint??

Why cant you see it eh?

WHY do you always attack others for being arrogant and yet you trat others the SAME way?

I dont attack christians..I attack their arrogance..and their pride..and they hate the truth being known.

Maybe if they actually start loving people with gentle Christlike humility my job will be done here.
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I'm 55, at 15 told God my life belonged to him to do with as he pleased
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Pffff. . .He did no such thing - you *chose* that. You've claimed again and again that it's all about Freewill. He can't override our choices, remember? We dictate, and He stoically responds.

rolleyes
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Wow..yu finally said something true without being all smug and arrogant.

maybe there is hope for you yet.
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Why must you keep baiting me? Why must you continually judge me?
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Becauise I give a shit about you thats why.

If I didnt..I would not bother.

But you know the truth.

So start ACTING like you do..instead of like the urantia peopel..who THINK they know the truth..and are therefore convinced they are above everyone else.

Dont attack them..if YOU have the same attitude.

thats all IM saying.
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Truth getting to you s it?

Should I dig up some of your arrogant hateful remarks like I had to do to Mr Irish to make the pooint??

Why cant you see it eh?

WHY do you always attack others for being arrogant and yet you trat others the SAME way?

I dont attack christians..I attack their arrogance..and their pride..and they hate the truth being known.

Maybe if they actually start loving people with gentle Christlike humility my job will be done here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776

Truth getting to you is it?

Should I dig up some of your arrogant hateful remarks you copy/paste in every Christian thread? How about a link to your raging hate in my Rapture thread?

Why can't you see it?

WHY do you always attack others for being arrogant and yet you treat others the SAME way?

You DO attack Christians, relentlessly and viciously. You think you're God.

And you act NOTHING like you demand Christians act.

Enough!
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Christ came for a threefold purpose into this world. To share the manifest glory of God in the flesh. To teach and lead by example the way of righteousness and humility, and finally to be condemned and rejected for the sins of the world. The church today has become a far cry from these initial precepts of faith. It is a rotten corpse that scarcely resembles anything truly "Christian". Today it is about "feeling" not faith. A typical church today is concerned with attendance and green paper. They achieve the first by spouting a hollow, generic "feel good" message that tip-toes on scripture like a robber in your home. They maintain the second by reminding you of your destination if you falter from THEIR definition of faith. Any true Christian today should be not only disgusted by the wickedness of the world at large... It should abhor the very four walls that have the audacity to call themselves a church in the first place. I instead call it a God rackett. Apostasy has set in like gangrene... Listen to any radio "ministry" you can always get the pastors message for a donation of X... God's word and message are the good news... Free to all who have ears to hear. Do you think when Christ sent out the apostles by 2's that after telling them NOT to take a coat... No money... No staff... That he finished with "and make sure you extort those who listen... You know to maintain your ministry". The fact that those who are proclaimed Athiests or agnostic have such a hard time digesting the truth of the word does not surprise me... The typical "Christian" today is a joke... A person who likes to compare clothing on Sunday. A person so brainwashed by religion they don't even know what they believe. Walking in Jesus is not easy... And defending the faith is even harder. I was saved because God found me... Not because I was pressured to walk forward to a pulpit. I haven't set foot in a "Church" in over 15 years... And you won't find me in one until we all make an account of our lives before God himself.
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Be not discouraged; human evolution is still in progress, and the revelation of God to the world, in and through Jesus, shall not fail.

The great challenge to modern man is to achieve better communication with the divine Monitor that dwells within the human mind. Man’s greatest adventure in the flesh consists in the well-balanced and sane effort to advance the borders of self-consciousness out through the dim realms of embryonic soul-consciousness in a wholehearted effort to reach the borderland of spirit-consciousness — contact with the divine presence. Such an experience constitutes God-consciousness, an experience mightily confirmative of the pre-existent truth of the religious experience of knowing God. Such spirit-consciousness is the equivalent of the knowledge of the actuality of sonship with God. Otherwise, the assurance of sonship is the experience of faith.
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I'm 55, at 15 told God my life belonged to him to do with as he pleased
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Pffff. . .He did no such thing - you *chose* that. You've claimed again and again that it's all about Freewill. He can't override our choices, remember? We dictate, and He stoically responds.

rolleyes
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You're not making any sense. I FREELY CHOSE to give myself to God, to submit my will to his. It was my choice, freely made.

You seem very confused about this. And I won't even roll my eyes like a toddler over it.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I've read enough of it and was attempted to be indoctrinated with it as a kid to have tried the spirits... And there is nothing Godly, wholesome, or meaningful about that wicked book. It is a black hole of "knowledge" that is smoke and mirrors... It looks like a marvel... It's really a turd.
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You were a kid...i was fourty seven. There is a difference.
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Becauise I give a shit about you thats why.

If I didnt..I would not bother.

But you know the truth.

So start ACTING like you do..instead of like the urantia peopel..who THINK they know the truth..and are therefore convinced they are above everyone else.

Dont attack them..if YOU have the same attitude.

thats all IM saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776


No, you show no concern whatsoever about me. You stomp, stab, and spit at me all the time. You can't stop because you are filled with hate. And you DON'T know the truth.

So START ACTING the way you demand I act; be the example. I'd never want to be like you or have your attitude.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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I FREELY CHOSE to give myself to God, to submit my will to his. It was my choice, freely made.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


That's the stuff. You had me worried there for a second, because it almost sounded as if you were implying that God has any authority to do a damn thing without our permission ;)
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Truth getting to you s it?

Should I dig up some of your arrogant hateful remarks like I had to do to Mr Irish to make the pooint??

Why cant you see it eh?

WHY do you always attack others for being arrogant and yet you trat others the SAME way?

I dont attack christians..I attack their arrogance..and their pride..and they hate the truth being known.

Maybe if they actually start loving people with gentle Christlike humility my job will be done here.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776

Truth getting to you is it?

Should I dig up some of your arrogant hateful remarks you copy/paste in every Christian thread? How about a link to your raging hate in my Rapture thread?

Why can't you see it?

WHY do you always attack others for being arrogant and yet you treat others the SAME way?

You DO attack Christians, relentlessly and viciously. You think you're God.

And you act NOTHING like you demand Christians act.

Enough!
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Im not attacking "Christians"..or Jesus..or God..im atytacking the ROT..the arrogance and pride..the snide evil way they look DOWN on people all the time.

In the same way you judges and sentence the urantia people..is the SAME way YOU acto towards those who dont KNOW as much as you.

You are such a hypocrite..its so obvious to everyone but you and those who act like you.

You condemned the urantia people for THE SAME THING YOU DO.

Your arrogance has blinded you to this FACT~!

If you REALLY had the truith..WHY do you act in the SAME WAY you saidf THEY do?

All Im saying is..KNOCK IT OFF..because in so doing ..you shit all over the Lords character..and people..rightly SO>..think christians are nothing but two faced hypocrites..all arrogant and smug..and they are RIGHT.

So stop giving them ammunition.
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Im not attacking "Christians"..or Jesus..or God..im atytacking the ROT..the arrogance and pride..the snide evil way they look DOWN on people all the time.

In the same way you judges and sentence the urantia people..is the SAME way YOU acto towards those who dont KNOW as much as you.

You are such a hypocrite..its so obvious to everyone but you and those who act like you.

You condemned the urantia people for THE SAME THING YOU DO.

Your arrogance has blinded you to this FACT~!

If you REALLY had the truith..WHY do you act in the SAME WAY you saidf THEY do?

All Im saying is..KNOCK IT OFF..because in so doing ..you shit all over the Lords character..and people..rightly SO>..think christians are nothing but two faced hypocrites..all arrogant and smug..and they are RIGHT.

So stop giving them ammunition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776


Stop. Just stop. Leave us alone.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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And these people in the Lords Recovery are all down to earth ,humble people that only live Christ.They come together and everyone gets a chance to function in the meeting.Remembered when all the believers came together in the time of acts.One has a song other a prophesy other a teaching.Thats how the body functions.We all received gifts of the Holy Spirit and need to use them in the body.Anyway there is no docrines only life.Wouldnt hurt to find out about them I can see you are looking for truth.
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And these people in the Lords Recovery are all down to earth ,humble people that only live Christ.They come together and everyone gets a chance to function in the meeting.Remembered when all the believers came together in the time of acts.One has a song other a prophesy other a teaching.Thats how the body functions.We all received gifts of the Holy Spirit and need to use them in the body.Anyway there is no docrines only life.Wouldnt hurt to find out about them I can see you are looking for truth.
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2. The Vine and the Branches

(1945.4) 180:2.1 Then Jesus stood up again and continued teaching his apostles: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. I am the vine, and you are the branches. And the Father requires of me only that you shall bear much fruit. The vine is pruned only to increase the fruitfulness of its branches. Every branch coming out of me which bears no fruit, the Father will take away. Every branch which bears fruit, the Father will cleanse that it may bear more fruit. Already are you clean through the word I have spoken, but you must continue to be clean. You must abide in me, and I in you; the branch will die if it is separated from the vine. As the branch cannot bear fruit except it abides in the vine, so neither can you yield the fruits of loving service except you abide in me. Remember: I am the real vine, and you are the living branches. He who lives in me, and I in him, will bear much fruit of the spirit and experience the supreme joy of yielding this spiritual harvest. If you will maintain this living spiritual connection with me, you will bear abundant fruit. If you abide in me and my words live in you, you will be able to commune freely with me, and then can my living spirit so infuse you that you may ask whatsoever my spirit wills and do all this with the assurance that the Father will grant us our petition. Herein is the Father glorified: that the vine has many living branches, and that every branch bears much fruit. And when the world sees these fruit-bearing branches — my friends who love one another, even as I have loved them — all men will know that you are truly my disciples.

“As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Live in my love even as I live in the Father’s love. If you do as I have taught you, you shall abide in my love even as I have kept the Father’s word and evermore abide in his love.”
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This isn't a Urantia thead... I don't think it could be made any clearer. You remind me of my dad with that damn book. We don't want it here... Didn't ask for it.. And have repeatedly asked you to stop. Take your new bible somewhere else.
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Watch the sermon on livestream now that I've posted..

The church is alive and well~ Bless His Holy Name
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I think your feeling/beliefs about the church although true, they stem from this common problem.

We believe.
But we know that we get easily misled and wish there was someone to help that we could really count on from time to time.
But they have failed us too many times.

We don't belong.
We are never comfortable we cant blend in because of that nagging feeling that this is wrong.

We don't Trust them!
We don't Trust ourselves!
We Trust only him.
and every now and then we let him down too.

So OP and anyone else. I say Good! Separate yourselves from them! and keep your faith while studying.


And for those of you that say "you must go to church and worship". well here is the answer to that.
Just like the People of Israel cannot offer up sacrifices to God because they have no temple and no alter to sacrifice. Neither do I have anywhere to bring my sacrifices to. All are corrupt.
So ill wait.
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I think your feeling/beliefs about the church although true, they stem from this common problem.

We believe.
But we know that we get easily misled and wish there was someone to help that we could really count on from time to time.
But they have failed us too many times.

We don't belong.
We are never comfortable we cant blend in because of that nagging feeling that this is wrong.

We don't Trust them!
We don't Trust ourselves!
We Trust only him.
and every now and then we let him down too.

So OP and anyone else. I say Good! Separate yourselves from them! and keep your faith while studying.


And for those of you that say "you must go to church and worship". well here is the answer to that.
Just like the People of Israel cannot offer up sacrifices to God because they have no temple and no alter to sacrifice. Neither do I have anywhere to bring my sacrifices to. All are corrupt.
So ill wait.
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AMEN
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I think your feeling/beliefs about the church although true, they stem from this common problem.

We believe.
But we know that we get easily misled and wish there was someone to help that we could really count on from time to time.
But they have failed us too many times.

We don't belong.
We are never comfortable we cant blend in because of that nagging feeling that this is wrong.

We don't Trust them!
We don't Trust ourselves!
We Trust only him.
and every now and then we let him down too.

So OP and anyone else. I say Good! Separate yourselves from them! and keep your faith while studying.


And for those of you that say "you must go to church and worship". well here is the answer to that.
Just like the People of Israel cannot offer up sacrifices to God because they have no temple and no alter to sacrifice. Neither do I have anywhere to bring my sacrifices to. All are corrupt.
So ill wait.
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AMEN
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I agree that the new testament isn't the absolute truth, the word of God.

God is truth and when we hear is voice within us we hear the word of God
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I see.

The Bible isn't the Word of God.

The word of god is whatever you think it is.

Well... isn't that convenient?!
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I believe Jesus said this:

(1732.5) 155:6.12 You must cease to seek for the word of God only on the pages of the olden records of theologic authority. Those who are born of the spirit of God shall henceforth discern the word of God regardless of whence it appears to take origin. Divine truth must not be discounted because the channel of its bestowal is apparently human...

[link to www.urantia.org]

Do you find this reasonable?
 Quoting: Orange


I see.

Jesus Christ's words in the Bible aren't the Word of God

but his supposed words elsewhere are...


As You Will.
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Im not attacking "Christians"..or Jesus..or God..im atytacking the ROT..the arrogance and pride..the snide evil way they look DOWN on people all the time.

In the same way you judges and sentence the urantia people..is the SAME way YOU acto towards those who dont KNOW as much as you.

You are such a hypocrite..its so obvious to everyone but you and those who act like you.

You condemned the urantia people for THE SAME THING YOU DO.

Your arrogance has blinded you to this FACT~!

If you REALLY had the truith..WHY do you act in the SAME WAY you saidf THEY do?

All Im saying is..KNOCK IT OFF..because in so doing ..you shit all over the Lords character..and people..rightly SO>..think christians are nothing but two faced hypocrites..all arrogant and smug..and they are RIGHT.

So stop giving them ammunition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35123776


Stop. Just stop. Leave us alone.
 Quoting: Keep2theCode


Oh look.

Diddums getting the shits because the truth is really starting to piss him off.

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07/03/2013 12:26 PM

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Re: Christians... The church is dead.
I agree that the new testament isn't the absolute truth, the word of God.

God is truth and when we hear is voice within us we hear the word of God
 Quoting: Orange


I see.

The Bible isn't the Word of God.

The word of god is whatever you think it is.

Well... isn't that convenient?!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636215


I believe Jesus said this:

(1732.5) 155:6.12 You must cease to seek for the word of God only on the pages of the olden records of theologic authority. Those who are born of the spirit of God shall henceforth discern the word of God regardless of whence it appears to take origin. Divine truth must not be discounted because the channel of its bestowal is apparently human...

[link to www.urantia.org]

Do you find this reasonable?
 Quoting: Orange


I see.

Jesus Christ's words in the Bible aren't the Word of God

but his supposed words elsewhere are...


As You Will.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636215

The text i posted says: ..You must cease to seek for the word of God only on the pages of the olden records of theologic authority.

And for the topic:

There is no danger in religion’s becoming more and more of a private matter — a personal experience — provided it does not lose its motivation for unselfish and loving social service. Religion has suffered from many secondary influences: sudden mixing of cultures, intermingling of creeds, diminution of ecclesiastical authority, changing of family life, together with urbanization and mechanization.

Last Edited by Orange on 07/03/2013 12:29 PM
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