Christians... The church is dead.

You 100% correct...

I know.

And I quite often get called a demon and condemned to hell by them for simply pointing this out.

Evil hates to be exposed..especially self righeous evil.

2 John 1:7-11
For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward. Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds

The seal of God only is given unto those who have God.
We can be removed spewed out cast out...wiped clean a garnishee of what house we built.

It is a very bad thing to bring that which you are told not to bring into the house of worship deemed a church..even sign an agreement with them.

It is a bad thing to combine the church as one with them.

There are those who are not in authority to be like the keepers of the doctrine of Christ. They do not attained seminary and get ordained. They are like sheep in a sheep fold.

But when it is the ones holding high seats who do so then yes that house is worse than divided it is much worse than divided.

Three main reasons and each different have brought them to go that way. And three it is we are warned only come to take it that way.

So no I can not say they all have but the list is so long and mixed in denominations that have, I do not want to risk finding one.

I agree that the new testament isn't the absolute truth, the word of God.

God is truth and when we hear is voice within us we hear the word of God

"Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts..
And:
"Two thousand years ago, the 'Word' was made flesh. today the 'Word' is made book." Exhibit C-12.

[link to www.freeurantia.org]

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Wow. No. Jesus is still alive and is the Word of God. No book can usurp his throne and purpose.

He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God. -Revelation 19:13

Get out of here with that occult book.

John was in prison several times and was banished to the Isle of Patmos for a period of four years until another emperor came to power in Rome. Had not John been tactful and sagacious, he would undoubtedly have been killed as was his more outspoken brother James. As the years passed, John, together with James the Lord’s brother, learned to practice wise conciliation when they appeared before the civil magistrates. They found that a “soft answer turns away wrath.” They also learned to represent the church as a “spiritual brotherhood devoted to the social service of mankind” rather than as “the kingdom of heaven.” They taught loving service rather than ruling power — kingdom and king.

When in temporary exile on Patmos, John wrote the Book of Revelation, which you now have in greatly abridged and distorted form. This Book of Revelation contains the surviving fragments of a great revelation, large portions of which were lost, other portions of which were removed, subsequent to John’s writing. It is preserved in only fragmentary and adulterated form...

The only way anyone would know that the bolded statements were actually true would be to have an unabridged, undistorted, unlost, and unremoved version.

Please provide some information on this. A link to a validated text would be most helpful.

St. John would not be murdered, although twice it was attempted. Only God's Deliverance Preserved him from boiling in oil; and everything else...


The Church IS Alive, far from dead.
It is you Hebrews 12 Bastards who are dead to HIM...

You Bastards who study Scripture but have hearts "waxed gross" and therefore unable to Hear or See Th Gospel. You Bastards who are unable to consider witness or open your heart and Trust God Completely.


The Church, Jesus Witnesses is founded upon Knowing WHO HE IS (per Matthew ch 16:13-18). Love Christ? Know WHO HE IS?
Then The Father Has Called your heart.


This is Laodicea.
All save the few "very elect"; those who elected/chose to give their lives and will Unto The Father are bound and caught-up in the deception of this day. As Jesus Witnesses in Matthew 24:21-24 it ain't possible to deceive the very elect...

Not Born-Again, one who elected surrender Unto The Father? Then you are lost in the deception and on your own...



Matthew 22
1. And Jesus answered and spake unto them again by parables, and said,
2. The kingdom of heaven is like unto a certain king, which made a marriage for his son,


3. And sent forth his servants to call them that were bidden to the wedding: and they would not come.
4. Again, he sent forth other servants, saying, Tell them which are bidden, Behold, I have prepared my dinner: my oxen and my fatlings are killed, and all things are ready: come unto the marriage.
5. But they made light of it, and went their ways, one to his farm, another to his merchandise:
6. And the remnant took his servants, and entreated them spitefully, and slew them.
7. But when the king heard thereof, he was wroth: and he sent forth his armies, and destroyed those murderers, and burned up their city.

8. Then saith he to his servants, The wedding is ready, but they which were bidden were not worthy.
9. Go ye therefore into the highways, and as many as ye shall find, bid to the marriage.
10. So those servants went out into the highways, and gathered together all as many as they found, both bad and good: and the wedding was furnished with guests.


11. And when the king came in to see the guests, he saw there a man which had not on a wedding garment:
12. And he saith unto him, Friend, how camest thou in hither not having a wedding garment? And he was speechless.
13. Then said the king to the servants, Bind him hand and foot, and take him away, and cast him into outer darkness; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

14. For many are called, but few are chosen.



Only One Way to own a Wedding Garment: "Marvel not that I say unto you, Ye Must Be Born-Again".

Choose to give your life w/o condition or reserve Unto The Father? HE Will Give you A New Heart as Witnessed in Ezekiel 36:
26. A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27. And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.


The Church Christ Jesus Founded is more alive than ever.
If you were HIS, you would KNOW...

Maranatha!!!

God is still God.

John learned what he did from Jesus Himself, long before Patmos.

And the church was never so much a"social service of mankind" as an example of how believers in the Kingdom of God were to treat each other, and that whatever social good was done, was done through each individual believer. Notice that when Paul asked for donations from some congregations, it was for the purpose of helping the believers in Jerusalem who were starving--- not all the Jews, not the Gentiles, but the church in Jerusalem. This again is not to say that we shouldn't help unbelievers, but that this is not the priority for the church. We are to take care of each other as family, so that the unbelievers will see this and want to be a part of it.

So it is precisely the kingdom of Heaven that the church is all about. Jesus is King, and "you are all brothers and sisters", yes; there is to be no "lording over" or hierarchy among us. But this is a kingdom nonetheless, with one King, and we believers are citizens of that kingdom-- which is why the world hates us just as Jesus said.

I see.

The Bible isn't the Word of God.

The word of god is whatever you think it is.

Well... isn't that convenient?!

Do not forget the simplicity of Christ.... I think that succinctly addresses all of the new age crap and even worse this Urantia deception I've had the profound displeasure of being raised around. People who read that pile of channeled filth are always smug... Like they have some special secret knowledge that only they understand.

This highlights a point I keep raising as well: the pride, the condesention. They think that the Bible and Christianity is "kindergarden", while they have "graduated" and "evolved" to "higher" levels of understanding. I think they have their directions backwards.

Thank you for this post, OP. You are exactly right. We are few and far between, but reading this gives me hope that real brothers and sister in Christ are out there. Somewhere. They are just near impossible to find these days. American "Christianity" is so vile and abominable that I don't even know what the real thing looks like anymore. I just hope to run into the real thing every once in a while on this lonely journey through Babylon. It's a tough world, and it's getting exponentially worse. I pray that you and I and others will also find others to help carry the load through this empty life while we await full redemption and true reality to come into fruition. God bless you, brother.

ASSIGNED by Gabriel to supervise the restatement of the life of Michael when on Urantia and in the likeness of mortal flesh, I, the Melchizedek director of the revelatory commission intrusted with this task, am authorized to present this narrative of certain events which immediately preceded the Creator Son’s arrival on Urantia to embark upon the terminal phase of his universe bestowal experience. To live such identical lives as he imposes upon the intelligent beings of his own creation, thus to bestow himself in the likeness of his various orders of created beings, is a part of the price which every Creator Son must pay for the full and supreme sovereignty of his self-made universe of things and beings...

[link to www.urantia.org]


The Times of Michael’s Bestowal

ACTING under the supervision of a commission of twelve members of the United Brotherhood of Urantia Midwayers, conjointly sponsored by the presiding head of our order and the Melchizedek of record, I am the secondary midwayer of onetime attachment to the Apostle Andrew, and I am authorized to place on record the narrative of the life transactions of Jesus of Nazareth as they were observed by my order of earth creatures, and as they were subsequently partially recorded by the human subject of my temporal guardianship. Knowing how his Master so scrupulously avoided leaving written records behind him, Andrew steadfastly refused to multiply copies of his written narrative. A similar attitude on the part of the other apostles of Jesus greatly delayed the writing of the Gospels...


[link to www.urantia.org]

You beleive this or not. Remember you have the spirit of truth around you.(The spirit of Jesus/Michael)..

Jesus/Michael is more our Father/brother than a King.

Jesus is not Michael. Jesus is the King of Kings. Michael is a created being, an angel.

I completely reject anything to do with urantia, so whatever claims you make on that basis are illegitimate as far as any Christian is concerned.

I believe Jesus said this:

(1732.5) 155:6.12 You must cease to seek for the word of God only on the pages of the olden records of theologic authority. Those who are born of the spirit of God shall henceforth discern the word of God regardless of whence it appears to take origin. Divine truth must not be discounted because the channel of its bestowal is apparently human...

[link to www.urantia.org]

Do you find this reasonable?

The Paradise Creator Sons

(234.1) 21:0.1 THE Creator Sons are the makers and rulers of the local universes of time and space. These universe creators and sovereigns are of dual origin, embodying the characteristics of God the Father and God the Son. But each Creator Son is different from every other; each is unique in nature as well as in personality; each is the “only-begotten Son” of the perfect deity ideal of his origin...

(234.3) 21:0.3 These primary Paradise Sons are personalized as Michaels. As they go forth from Paradise to found their universes, they are known as Creator Michaels. When settled in supreme authority, they are called Master Michaels. Sometimes we refer to the sovereign of your universe of Nebadon as Christ Michael. Always and forever do they reign after the “order of Michael,” that being the designation of the first Son of their order and nature...

[link to www.urantia.org]

There is too the Archangel of Michael..

It is pointless to quote urantia to me. You might as well quote from a Klingon legend.

3. The Archangels

Archangels are the offspring of the Creator Son and the Universe Mother Spirit. They are the highest type of high spirit being produced in large numbers in a local universe, and at the time of the last registry there were almost eight hundred thousand in Nebadon.

Archangels are one of the few groups of local universe personalities who are not normally under the jurisdiction of Gabriel. They are not in any manner concerned with the routine administration of the universe, being dedicated to the work of creature survival and to the furtherance of the ascending career of the mortals of time and space. While not ordinarily subject to the direction of the Bright and Morning Star, the archangels do sometimes function by his authority. They also collaborate with others of the Universe Aids, such as the Evening Stars, as is illustrated by certain transactions depicted in the narrative of life transplantation on your world...

Remember that the Urantia Papers are a revelation of truth.
You compare it with Klingon legend. It is to you to discern the truth in every writting you read.

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Are you a bot? Why else would you go on preaching urantia to me after what I said?

Urantians don't get it... They can't see the simple truth... They need something complex.

Those who know all the answers haven't heard all the questions.

And you're the one who thinks they have all the answers.

Start a Urantia thread. There are plenty of people deluded with the new age that would love to hear that demonic garbage.

Sorry my brother but my belif in the Urantia revelation isn't only in my head. I'm fifty years old and i gave totaly my life to God/Jesus at seventeen years old. I gave my life to him to do what he wants. I know him personaly. I feel Him within me. I have the assurance that my soul will survive after my physical death.

Be sincere with yourself and with God spirits. Seek God all the time.
Said Jesus: Become perfect as the Father is perfect..

Awesome Video.....during the reason #37 explanation. A rocker kid does the satanic rock hand sign on the left, Satan just cant hide his handy work.