Who will go to another 3D planet onboard Andromedan Biosphere this August 2013? Updated 23/7/2014: Timeline may have changed to August 2014 OMG!!

He doesn't channel, he says he has been onboard their ships and met with them in person......

we'll just say o.p.'s friend is right (I doubt it, but what do I know?) then...

I'm sticking with earth. I am really not down with years on board an alien vessel while they are supposedly taking me to my "new home". there are so many problems inherent in that scenario that just listing them all will take longer than I want to spend on this post.

o.p., you seem nice. stay here with us, o.k.?

So the Andromedans are going to dump 3.5 billion scruffy earth reffos on an "alternative, pristine, virgin 3D world"?

NO! Stop this mindless pollution! What the hell are they thinking? Learn from the vast history of mistakes you idiot meddlers!

Is that google link about an


"Alien invasion August 2013" .....


or bad link?

Solar Guardian,

I like your persistence, and I admire your thick skin, and there is actually some reason to believe the Ascension may be real, but there is one thing you should realize:

Channeling is crap.

All forms of communicating with other dimensions is crap.

Which includes what Tolec does ("communicating telepathically" and using "automatic writing").

The reason all forms of communicating with other dimensions is crap, is because the Astral is the realm of illusion!

You can't pull TRUTH out of the realm of illusion, no matter how hard you try, because all you'll ever find there, is - illusion!

This realm of illusion is amazing though, it can make up all kinds of believable dream scenarios, it can simulate intelligently behaving illusory entities that communicate with you, it can even tap the underlying layer of reality for "inspiration", and show you things that have a core of truth in them.

But it will ALWAYS distort that truth into near complete nonsense, and there is no way you can set it straight other than by using your logical mind. To ask illusory entities or astral "guides" to help you set things straight is to invite disaster.

The realm of illusion will simply produce more illusion, if you try to squeeze hard facts from it.

The channelers and soothsayers like Tolec and David Wilcock are UNAWARE of this - they think they can get hard facts by divination, and this is utterly impossible!

But I said there is some reason to believe the ascension story is REAL in some form, even though the details described by channelers are 99 % bullshit, and even though the dates they give are always wrong.

There are two reasons for this:


1. The realm of illusion does not CREATE information, it merely DISTORTS it. This means the very fact there is so much disinfo about ascension seeping out of the astral suggests there is a kernel of truth hidden in there somewhere. That the upcoming ascension event is real, but practically everything we've been told about it is still off the mark, including any dates given.

2. There is scientific information (and alternative scientific theories) that lends some credence to the possibility of ascension being a real physical process. (If you think sufficiently outside the box.)


Those two reasons are the ONLY reason to entertain the idea of ascension! In short, disregard EVERYTHING you heard from Tolec and anyone else, but do stay open to the possibility of ascension happening eventually nonetheless. Perhaps this year, perhaps in 100 years, there's no way for us to tell!

Divining an answer in any way will give an illusory answer, remember!