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cosmicgypsy User ID: 36357210 United States 06/30/2013 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's "salt of the earth" advice to remember your work environment is not a wise place to stake a personal claim of opinion, regardless of how honorable or shameless it is. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Common sense should trump ego-need on this one. But the Asians are allowed to? You only get in trouble for responding to them? If it's not one race, it's another. If it's not one political opinion, it's another. If it's not one religious ideology, it's another. If it's not one job, it's another. It's not an uninformed choice in this day and age to make a choice to air an opinion in a professional setting, and to then be prepared to possibly pay the consequences. Really, at the base of what I'm saying is, it's not about freedom of speech and who is or isn't getting to voice what they want...it's about choosing the appropriate place to hash personal views out. I dunno, if someone wants to be a job place conscientious objector of whatever, it's their choice. I'm pretty sure, however, that the person who is satisfied in their workplace?...they'd be protecting their job asset over a personal opinion. Sometimes, personal censorship is a saving grace...and "salt of the earth" advice is time-tested-true and saged advice. And I suppose if a job is just a job without any kind of personal investment therein, then it doesn't make a difference what one says. We choose our "battles" no matter where we are. I think the street would be a safer and more productive place to do so, rather than the work place. thats how it starts,thats how they control you. oops better not say anything at work, opps better not say anything amongfriends,oops better not say anything on the street, oops better not say anything ever,best to be just a robot and do as im told. cant rememebr who said this quote " i may not like what you have to say but i will fight to the death for your right to say it" How it starts? This hasn't JUST BEGUN. This thread's subject matter is also an example of one of the least of ways of how we've been controlled. It's just a no-brainer for me. If I'm working, I go to work and do my job. I'm not comfortable with airing my views in a work place ...not because it's not politically correct, but because I don't know who those people are...why should I care to go there with them? What difference does it make to do so IN the work place, when it can be done so elsewhere without as much stigma? On the other hand, if I've met someone in the work place I have something in common with, I've always invited them over for dinner or whatever, and go from there. So easy. Little chance of complication. And I never feel like I'm not heard when I want to be heard. My choice. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
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saved User ID: 40779759 United States 06/30/2013 09:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work is not the proper place to discuss politics or religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42557540 You are unprofessional and should be replaced. You fucking dimwit, she wast discussing either! SInce when is talking about the predominant language or culture of your own country about politics or religion? Its the immigrants that are turning it into another issue, go fuck yourself wanker. Come And Take It! |
saved User ID: 40779759 United States 06/30/2013 09:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in retail at a well known uk retailer. I was on my non paid lunch break and was talking to several staff. The topic of immigration came up and some Asian staff members argued that they shouldn't have to learn English to live in England and English people should learn to speak "multi cultural" languages Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42596360 I voiced my opinion to say that immigrants who come into the uk specially England should know or learn English . Whilst I said this a white manager came in and had heard and pulled me over to one side and said I should leave early and they will review my enployment at their store So I'm about to get fired I guess By the Way I'm am excellent employee missed 1 day in 3 years and had a drs note for that . There is always something better down the road for those willing to speak the truth, especially under threat. This is what obama wants for all americans. Anyone who would speak the trut about what he is doing is an enemy combatant. Come And Take It! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35456105 United Kingdom 06/30/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello OP here, I did not think this thread would take off this much. I just needed to vent my anger at the failed system. These days it seems' that freedom of speech is long dead or controlled. I was not stating a hate message, just saying that in my job it can be, at times difficult to understand non-english speaking customers. However when I find it hard to understand them they seem annoyed at me like its my fault that I have not taken the time to learn their language. Thanks for the PIN. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35424737 United States 06/30/2013 09:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work is not the proper place to discuss politics or religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42557540 You are unprofessional and should be replaced. You fucking dimwit, she wast discussing either! SInce when is talking about the predominant language or culture of your own country about politics or religion? Its the immigrants that are turning it into another issue, go fuck yourself wanker. Lol, you sound like a typical "saved" christian piece of trash. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20266013 United States 06/30/2013 10:04 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's "salt of the earth" advice to remember your work environment is not a wise place to stake a personal claim of opinion, regardless of how honorable or shameless it is. Quoting: cosmicgypsy Common sense should trump ego-need on this one. But the Asians are allowed to? You only get in trouble for responding to them? If it's not one race, it's another. If it's not one political opinion, it's another. If it's not one religious ideology, it's another. If it's not one job, it's another. It's not an uninformed choice in this day and age to make a choice to air an opinion in a professional setting, and to then be prepared to possibly pay the consequences. Really, at the base of what I'm saying is, it's not about freedom of speech and who is or isn't getting to voice what they want...it's about choosing the appropriate place to hash personal views out. I dunno, if someone wants to be a job place conscientious objector of whatever, it's their choice. I'm pretty sure, however, that the person who is satisfied in their workplace?...they'd be protecting their job asset over a personal opinion. Sometimes, personal censorship is a saving grace...and "salt of the earth" advice is time-tested-true and saged advice. And I suppose if a job is just a job without any kind of personal investment therein, then it doesn't make a difference what one says. We choose our "battles" no matter where we are. I think the street would be a safer and more productive place to do so, rather than the work place. thats how it starts,thats how they control you. oops better not say anything at work, opps better not say anything amongfriends,oops better not say anything on the street, oops better not say anything ever,best to be just a robot and do as im told. cant rememebr who said this quote " i may not like what you have to say but i will fight to the death for your right to say it" THIS x1000 someone gets it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35424737 United States 06/30/2013 10:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hello OP here, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35456105 I did not think this thread would take off this much. I just needed to vent my anger at the failed system. These days it seems' that freedom of speech is long dead or controlled. I was not stating a hate message, just saying that in my job it can be, at times difficult to understand non-english speaking customers. However when I find it hard to understand them they seem annoyed at me like its my fault that I have not taken the time to learn their language. Thanks for the PIN. It's so clear that this thread is a bunch of made up BULLSHIT brought to you by TAVISTOCK. Freedom of Speech? You are SO OBVIOUSLY not from England. Show me where free speech is protected? Lying sack of shit sockpuppet of Trinity is what you are. |
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LiteraryArtist User ID: 6904946 United States 06/30/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Eventually, all countries will be like the Tower of Babble - One language and God confused the workers by making them speak different languages - so the same applies in Britain and here in the US - when everyone speaks different languages - they will break away into their own groups - So EVERYONE loses! LiteraryArtist |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27794780 United States 06/30/2013 10:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously the other people do not agree with you so why bother to tell them anything. What problem you want to give yourself today? It is also up to the people who are Elected and if you feel that strongly about anything, I guess you will have to become a politician and see if you are elected to Office. And don't talk about sex either. Freedom of Speech does not mean that. It only means the Right to Assemble (which may take a permit and other things needed by the people who passed those Laws) and then you can voice your Opinion at a Town Hall Meeting or agenda that is what they consider to be legal. That is all Freedom of Speech means. But whether humans go on in this world or not is about the question you end up with in the end?? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 35424737 United States 06/30/2013 10:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Obviously the other people do not agree with you so why bother to tell them anything. What problem you want to give yourself today? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27794780 It is also up to the people who are Elected and if you feel that strongly about anything, I guess you will have to become a politician and see if you are elected to Office. And don't talk about sex either. Freedom of Speech does not mean that. It only means the Right to Assemble (which may take a permit and other things needed by the people who passed those Laws) and then you can voice your Opinion at a Town Hall Meeting or agenda that is what they consider to be legal. That is all Freedom of Speech means. But whether humans go on in this world or not is about the question you end up with in the end?? No freedom of speech in the UK, fucktard. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3123453 United States 06/30/2013 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42553800 But the Asians are allowed to? You only get in trouble for responding to them? If it's not one race, it's another. If it's not one political opinion, it's another. If it's not one religious ideology, it's another. If it's not one job, it's another. It's not an uninformed choice in this day and age to make a choice to air an opinion in a professional setting, and to then be prepared to possibly pay the consequences. Really, at the base of what I'm saying is, it's not about freedom of speech and who is or isn't getting to voice what they want...it's about choosing the appropriate place to hash personal views out. I dunno, if someone wants to be a job place conscientious objector of whatever, it's their choice. I'm pretty sure, however, that the person who is satisfied in their workplace?...they'd be protecting their job asset over a personal opinion. Sometimes, personal censorship is a saving grace...and "salt of the earth" advice is time-tested-true and saged advice. And I suppose if a job is just a job without any kind of personal investment therein, then it doesn't make a difference what one says. We choose our "battles" no matter where we are. I think the street would be a safer and more productive place to do so, rather than the work place. thats how it starts,thats how they control you. oops better not say anything at work, opps better not say anything amongfriends,oops better not say anything on the street, oops better not say anything ever,best to be just a robot and do as im told. cant rememebr who said this quote " i may not like what you have to say but i will fight to the death for your right to say it" How it starts? This hasn't JUST BEGUN. This thread's subject matter is also an example of one of the least of ways of how we've been controlled. It's just a no-brainer for me. If I'm working, I go to work and do my job. I'm not comfortable with airing my views in a work place ...not because it's not politically correct, but because I don't know who those people are...why should I care to go there with them? What difference does it make to do so IN the work place, when it can be done so elsewhere without as much stigma? On the other hand, if I've met someone in the work place I have something in common with, I've always invited them over for dinner or whatever, and go from there. So easy. Little chance of complication. And I never feel like I'm not heard when I want to be heard. My choice. No, the reason is because you have been sufficiently brainwashed to feel uncomfortable in voicing any opinions counter to the commanders views... You are a good slave ..be proud |
cosmicgypsy User ID: 36357210 United States 06/30/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: cosmicgypsy If it's not one race, it's another. If it's not one political opinion, it's another. If it's not one religious ideology, it's another. If it's not one job, it's another. It's not an uninformed choice in this day and age to make a choice to air an opinion in a professional setting, and to then be prepared to possibly pay the consequences. Really, at the base of what I'm saying is, it's not about freedom of speech and who is or isn't getting to voice what they want...it's about choosing the appropriate place to hash personal views out. I dunno, if someone wants to be a job place conscientious objector of whatever, it's their choice. I'm pretty sure, however, that the person who is satisfied in their workplace?...they'd be protecting their job asset over a personal opinion. Sometimes, personal censorship is a saving grace...and "salt of the earth" advice is time-tested-true and saged advice. And I suppose if a job is just a job without any kind of personal investment therein, then it doesn't make a difference what one says. We choose our "battles" no matter where we are. I think the street would be a safer and more productive place to do so, rather than the work place. thats how it starts,thats how they control you. oops better not say anything at work, opps better not say anything amongfriends,oops better not say anything on the street, oops better not say anything ever,best to be just a robot and do as im told. cant rememebr who said this quote " i may not like what you have to say but i will fight to the death for your right to say it" How it starts? This hasn't JUST BEGUN. This thread's subject matter is also an example of one of the least of ways of how we've been controlled. It's just a no-brainer for me. If I'm working, I go to work and do my job. I'm not comfortable with airing my views in a work place ...not because it's not politically correct, but because I don't know who those people are...why should I care to go there with them? What difference does it make to do so IN the work place, when it can be done so elsewhere without as much stigma? On the other hand, if I've met someone in the work place I have something in common with, I've always invited them over for dinner or whatever, and go from there. So easy. Little chance of complication. And I never feel like I'm not heard when I want to be heard. My choice. No, the reason is because you have been sufficiently brainwashed to feel uncomfortable in voicing any opinions counter to the commanders views... You are a good slave ..be proud Oh, please do fuck off with your pigeon hole-ing system contrition. You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete. -Buckminster Fuller ...I adapt to the unknown, under wandering stars I've grown, by myself, but not alone... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 3123453 United States 06/30/2013 10:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21416459 thats how it starts,thats how they control you. oops better not say anything at work, opps better not say anything amongfriends,oops better not say anything on the street, oops better not say anything ever,best to be just a robot and do as im told. cant rememebr who said this quote " i may not like what you have to say but i will fight to the death for your right to say it" How it starts? This hasn't JUST BEGUN. This thread's subject matter is also an example of one of the least of ways of how we've been controlled. It's just a no-brainer for me. If I'm working, I go to work and do my job. I'm not comfortable with airing my views in a work place ...not because it's not politically correct, but because I don't know who those people are...why should I care to go there with them? What difference does it make to do so IN the work place, when it can be done so elsewhere without as much stigma? On the other hand, if I've met someone in the work place I have something in common with, I've always invited them over for dinner or whatever, and go from there. So easy. Little chance of complication. And I never feel like I'm not heard when I want to be heard. My choice. No, the reason is because you have been sufficiently brainwashed to feel uncomfortable in voicing any opinions counter to the commanders views... You are a good slave ..be proud Oh, please do fuck off with your pigeon hole-ing system contrition. Bothers you to think of yourself as brainwashed ; doesn't it |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40891079 United States 06/30/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I work in retail at a well known uk retailer. I was on my non paid lunch break and was talking to several staff. The topic of immigration came up and some Asian staff members argued that they shouldn't have to learn English to live in England and English people should learn to speak "multi cultural" languages Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42596360 I voiced my opinion to say that immigrants who come into the uk specially England should know or learn English . Whilst I said this a white manager came in and had heard and pulled me over to one side and said I should leave early and they will review my enployment at their store So I'm about to get fired I guess By the Way I'm am excellent employee missed 1 day in 3 years and had a drs note for that . Would you happen to be white? If so, then you were being racist. |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 06/30/2013 10:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work is not the proper place to discuss politics or religion. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42557540 You are unprofessional and should be replaced. You serious ? Absolutely. You are there to do a job, not participate in arguments or voice your opinion on any matter whatsoever. Join the EDL, and voice your opinions at their meetings. Seriously, no offense but religion and politics are not meant for the workplace. You caused strife among your co-workers, and I would find someone who was not so incendiery to replace you. It's not like there are a shortage of workers looking for jobs, and as you are working with Asian immigrants, I assume you are in a minimum wage, low-skill position. Did you even bother to read the original post? OP was PART of a conversation & was singled out & punished for a comment which was pertinent to said conversation. Amazing how conditioned we've become to just bend over & take it over fear someone might get their feelings hurt & run off to find some scum sucking lawyer to enable this stupid behaviour, but it's perfectly fine for the people who CHOOSE to move to OUR COUNTRY'S & whine, bitch & moan about learning how to speak the language of the Country they CHOSE to move to but the problem is with the person who voices a different opinion. The lawyers, politicians & the apologists(sometimes all one in the same) sure have done a great job of fucking up this Planet & making people scared to death of stating fact or opinion, all to keep them from discussing anything that matters, locked down tight, in fear & thus easy to control. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
Reinvigorated Being User ID: 2782120 United States 06/30/2013 10:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Damn! Shills & apologists abound, yet again & as expected. I'm a proud Texan & American, posting from Central Texas & have no clue why my flag shows friggin Canada(no offense to my Canadian friends). "Men will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." Diderot "Immigration without assimilation is invasion!" - Anonymous Coward Gird your lions, shave your Family & panic sex the 'maters! "When your so-called religion is purely a political theory of conquest, and deception is one of it's core principles then it strikes me as perfectly sane and reasonable to assume literally everyone who is of such a "religion" to be exactly the same POS who deserves to be treated as the enemy non-stop." Darkwolf007 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42361563 Canada 06/30/2013 10:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP is a fucking racist pig. You deserve to be fired and be homeless to teach you a lesson. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42361563 What he said wasn't racist, if I go to live in a foriegn country, I will intend to intergrate properly including learning the language. It would be difficult at first. They said he should learn their language to him before he said what he said. Why should somebody from England have to speak in a foriegn language. Racist apologist |
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person User ID: 27415310 United States 06/30/2013 10:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So yes England has become a socialist dystopia . But it has nothing to do with race |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42375972 Canada 06/30/2013 10:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Start your own business, or bend over and be a subordinate dbag and obey their rules. Don't like it? Leave you fn spineless jellyfish. Find another job, you beta bitch. WTF is wrong with you.? Grow a set you pussy. Youre a slave, because your retarded. |
Ms. Superduper User ID: 15016867 United States 06/30/2013 10:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I always felt very blessed to work for a lawyer for so long who actually was a down-to-earth person. For one thing that relates to this topic, she always had me tell potential new clients that if they spoke NO English, or even had a problem speaking or understanding this language, she could not/would not be able to assist them in their legal matter - even if they brought a translater. That could lead to potential business and problems with their case. Anyway, it was a very legitimate reason. No one ever said anything further after declining them services. Never heard from them or anyone else regarding this. Also, when I have to call about a problem with a bill/statement or repair of some item I purchased from their company, and I reach a foreign speaking person, I ask for someone who speaks good English. I don't care if they are offended because that is what their job entails and I'm sure I am one of many who complain about their lack of English language skills. I am the customer and the company is required to provide a good service for my money. Business is business. I really do not see the problem in your discussion of the language barrier. So many problems - business-wise could come of improper communication. Your boss must be a you-know-what. Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world. Whatever feels good to your soul, do that. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1395091 Australia 06/30/2013 10:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not blame the employer for this - they are just covering their asses. What you said could potentially turn intoa descrimination law suit against the company. Your boss is only doing his job. This is what the world has become. People sue others for the stupidest shit ever. |