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License Plate Reader Jammers | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 41852956  Brazil06/30/2013 06:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Bill in Brasil (OP) User ID: 41852956 Brazil06/30/2013 06:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are interesting articles. I met a guy a few years ago that said he never goes to Mill Valley to have cocktails anymore. He claimed that the city bought a hardware/software program for its police cars that scans the license plates of parked cars, say near a bar, does a lookup, and alerts the officer when one of the vehicles has had a DUI in the past couple years or so. The cop can then watch that car more carefully. Land of the free? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42578460  United States06/30/2013 06:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 41852956 Brazil06/30/2013 06:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Bill in Brasil (OP) User ID: 41852956 Brazil06/30/2013 06:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Iowa City to ban red-light cameras, drones, and license plate readers too [link to arstechnica.com] If Iowa City can do it so can we!!! |
| Bill in Brasil (OP) User ID: 41852956 Brazil06/30/2013 06:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | But when back stateside it is very disconcerting...the gubbermint is completely out of control between digital and phone monitoring and now this...something needs to be done. National ID cards with chips could be right around the corner...the next step is chip implants - sounds crazy but probably not that far off. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 34853598 United States06/30/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I accidentally allowed a small rug to accidentally fall over top of my license plate, when I closed the tail gate to my truck. Then, I got onto a toll road, and when I got off, I corrected the accident. I still got a fee notice in the mail. So this means that -either the rug flapped up and allowed detection, or the detector detected through the rug. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40300096  United Kingdom06/30/2013 06:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They would probably be legal to buy legal to sell, but illegal to use. Thats the usual ploy. ANPR (automatic number plate recognition) is used all over the UK it sets off an alarm in a police car equipped with anpr if someone isnt taxed insured or mot'd, or if the car is stolen stuff like that. A jammer would be pretty cool, but cant see what purpose it would serve other then to let those who already dont have insurance road tax and mot's cause more havoc on the roads. If it was a speed camera jammer then im all for that, those things are a pain in the arse and are always in places where they dont serve any other purpose then to collect revenue. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42566056 United States06/30/2013 06:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't quite figure out how to design one. If you obfuscated your plate, the car would show as no plate, or another number. The other number would have to be clean and a similar vehicle. If they take a picture, it could conceivably identify you without the plate number. Probably the only way to really jam such a thing would be with HPM, and that might permanently take out half the electronics in the cop car. Good for a laugh, but the cop may not get the joke, and may still take your picture. Any other ideas? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42592971 United States06/30/2013 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
mrmuffins69  User ID: 41433215 United States06/30/2013 06:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.thetruthaboutcars.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 12931045 United States06/30/2013 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can't quite figure out how to design one. If you obfuscated your plate, the car would show as no plate, or another number. The other number would have to be clean and a similar vehicle. If they take a picture, it could conceivably identify you without the plate number. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42566056 Probably the only way to really jam such a thing would be with HPM, and that might permanently take out half the electronics in the cop car. Good for a laugh, but the cop may not get the joke, and may still take your picture. Any other ideas? Most cameras are CCD or CMOS image sensors... Overload invisible IR light on too you plate that it will over saturate the camera's image sensor... Granted this going to take alot... put your phone in real time camera and flash a remote... you will get the concept |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States06/30/2013 07:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much illegal, interfering with the police is a crime...you might not agree or like it but that doesn't change the fact that it is a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42578460 Nope There needs to be a change in the law in order for it to be illegal. If you follow the letter of the law there is no law broken. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42578460 United States06/30/2013 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much illegal, interfering with the police is a crime...you might not agree or like it but that doesn't change the fact that it is a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42578460 Nope There needs to be a change in the law in order for it to be illegal. If you follow the letter of the law there is no law broken. Please do try that defense in court and see how far it get's ya Bottom line: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, then ya won't have a problem. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42602401 United States06/30/2013 07:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | a license plate must be able to be read from 500 feet away. 1. put on blinders like what's on stop signs that are only to be seen from one street but not another street that's at a close angle. you could then see the license plate from 500 feet away when you are directly behind the car, and that's all the government requires so they get what they asked for. 2. a holographerizer that only allows your license plate to be read when you are exactly 500 feet away. I believe that meets the requirements. 3. motorized license plate mountings that you can retract when the car is parked. who says they have to be visible when you are parked? does it say in the statutes? I don't think it does. or if you're on the cheap, use velcro. 4. attach your plates upside down. |
| Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 41852956 Brazil06/30/2013 07:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I accidentally allowed a small rug to accidentally fall over top of my license plate, when I closed the tail gate to my truck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34853598 Then, I got onto a toll road, and when I got off, I corrected the accident. I still got a fee notice in the mail. So this means that -either the rug flapped up and allowed detection, or the detector detected through the rug. Did you have a front plate at the time? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States06/30/2013 07:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much illegal, interfering with the police is a crime...you might not agree or like it but that doesn't change the fact that it is a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42578460 Nope There needs to be a change in the law in order for it to be illegal. If you follow the letter of the law there is no law broken. Please do try that defense in court and see how far it get's ya Bottom line: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, then ya won't have a problem. If you follow the letter of the law you aren't breaking the law. Are you that brain addled? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42498155 United States06/30/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Don't nearly all vehicles have Onstar based GPS and diagnostics built in? Even in the old days, you had the same wiring harness in all cars, they just capped certain plugs if you did not have a feature like air conditioning. I can not imagine it is cheaper to ommit tracking capability from some autos than it is to put it in all of them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42578460 United States06/30/2013 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pretty much illegal, interfering with the police is a crime...you might not agree or like it but that doesn't change the fact that it is a crime. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42578460 Nope There needs to be a change in the law in order for it to be illegal. If you follow the letter of the law there is no law broken. Please do try that defense in court and see how far it get's ya Bottom line: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, then ya won't have a problem. If you follow the letter of the law you aren't breaking the law. Are you that brain addled? Nope, just smarter than you Einstein |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States06/30/2013 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42448212 Nope There needs to be a change in the law in order for it to be illegal. If you follow the letter of the law there is no law broken. Please do try that defense in court and see how far it get's ya Bottom line: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, then ya won't have a problem. If you follow the letter of the law you aren't breaking the law. Are you that brain addled? Nope, just smarter than you Einstein You are insanely stupid. What would you be charged with genius? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 35481792 United States06/30/2013 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I accidentally allowed a small rug to accidentally fall over top of my license plate, when I closed the tail gate to my truck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34853598 Then, I got onto a toll road, and when I got off, I corrected the accident. I still got a fee notice in the mail. So this means that -either the rug flapped up and allowed detection, or the detector detected through the rug. Does your truck have a front license plate? They get that one too :) |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 32959810 United States06/30/2013 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42578460 United States06/30/2013 07:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42578460 Please do try that defense in court and see how far it get's ya Bottom line: DON'T BREAK THE LAW, then ya won't have a problem. If you follow the letter of the law you aren't breaking the law. Are you that brain addled? Nope, just smarter than you Einstein You are insanely stupid. What would you be charged with genius? depends on your state, so look that up for yourself.... bottom line: Every state has some form of motor vehicle law covering the readability of License plates....check your local and state LEA for what applies to you.... or take dipshit here's advice and roll the dice in court. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States06/30/2013 07:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42448212 If you follow the letter of the law you aren't breaking the law. Are you that brain addled? Nope, just smarter than you Einstein You are insanely stupid. What would you be charged with genius? depends on your state, so look that up for yourself.... bottom line: Every state has some form of motor vehicle law covering the readability of License plates....check your local and state LEA for what applies to you.... or take dipshit here's advice and roll the dice in court. That's right there genius Had you read the links you would see the laws he was adhering to. ALL states at present state visible at a certain distance and require lighting. NONE of them state visible to the requirements of a camera. Capish? God you are a sheep I say again FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW and you will be FINE Which is the same thing you said.  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42578460 United States06/30/2013 07:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | depends on your state, so look that up for yourself.... bottom line: Every state has some form of motor vehicle law covering the readability of License plates....check your local and state LEA for what applies to you.... or take dipshit here's advice and roll the dice in court. That's right there genius Had you read the links you would see the laws he was adhering to. ALL states at present state visible at a certain distance and require lighting. NONE of them state visible to the requirements of a camera. Capish? God you are a sheep I say again FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW and you will be FINE Which is the same thing you said. Please do try that defense in court....we can use the "Extra" revenue!!!! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 42448212 United States06/30/2013 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42448212 You are insanely stupid. What would you be charged with genius? depends on your state, so look that up for yourself.... bottom line: Every state has some form of motor vehicle law covering the readability of License plates....check your local and state LEA for what applies to you.... or take dipshit here's advice and roll the dice in court. That's right there genius Had you read the links you would see the laws he was adhering to. ALL states at present state visible at a certain distance and require lighting. NONE of them state visible to the requirements of a camera. Capish? God you are a sheep I say again FOLLOW THE LETTER OF THE LAW and you will be FINE Which is the same thing you said. Please do try that defense in court....we can use the "Extra" revenue!!!! In court on what charge? There would be no court date without charges filed |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 28468708 United States06/30/2013 10:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I accidentally allowed a small rug to accidentally fall over top of my license plate, when I closed the tail gate to my truck. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 34853598 Then, I got onto a toll road, and when I got off, I corrected the accident. I still got a fee notice in the mail. So this means that -either the rug flapped up and allowed detection, or the detector detected through the rug. was there a front plate on your truck? |
