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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Donít Trust Him

 
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now....

lets look at this from a differnt perspective.

the "OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE".

who would gain from a diversion of NATO, US/EUROPEAN alliance?

isnt this a clear strategy following the "divide et impera" paradigm?

this world is about to CHANGE as Obama predicted.
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
Occam's Razor, morans!
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now....

lets look at this from a differnt perspective.

the "OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE".

who would gain from a diversion of NATO, US/EUROPEAN alliance?

isnt this a clear strategy following the "divide et impera" paradigm?

this world is about to CHANGE as Obama predicted.
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Cui bono?
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When I see how passionate people can get about their perceived privacy, I wish there were no nuclear or other weapons at all.

For those who believe it, remember God sees everything too.

They couldn't resist the temptation, IT/spy budgets had to be justified. Will they learn? Not while China/Russia others use exact same tactics, no.

These are all symptoms, exterior displays of the underwar which has already been won by the forces of good in 1969 in the lower astrals.
 Quoting: schiehallion


i know God sees all...that is okay.

and...

while i have nothing to hide i have been interrogated and spied upon and possibly worse.

they are focusing on people like me who may be opinonated but who are patriotic citizens INSTEAD of focusing on muslims an mosques!!!

this is the problem - obama's misuse of this program!
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Because they brainwashed by their puppet government/media. Like whole world
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07/01/2013 10:14 AM
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We never loved Obama but we were happy the other Guy left.
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Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !Odickhead
 Quoting: brassbat




And beseech Almighty God in Heaven that his cronies don't formulate a way to bypass the Constitution and hand him a third, fourth, and fifth term.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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I didn't trust Obama when he held his first speech in Germany and was sure after he got elected in the United States when he kept whispering Ďyes we caní in a hypnotics way and watched the masses repeating his mantra.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689


yeah, i know. i recognized the NLP but i stupidly voted for him in 2008 bc he was on the dem ticket and at the time (tho not now) sarah palin worried me....she was also doing NLP stuff (imho) tho to a lesser degree in the VP debate. i was wrong, but mccain has no stones either. he proved that on his trips to libya and syria and on immigration. what a fucking hosebag.
 Quoting: m&m's



You weren't wrong. Obama was (and still is compared to McCain) the lesser of two evils. McCain is an absolutely insane, corporatist pig who has sold out this country in a variety of ways. I understand he was always a POS. Palin was unfit to be president and was picked only to guarantee the loss of McCain.

You would have no difference in what is going on if McCain (or Romney for that matter) were elected. THE SAME THINGS WOULD BE GOING ON, but the problem is....most conservatives would support the VERY SAME THINGS OBAMA IS DOING if they were done by an alleged conservative/Republican. All of the wars, corporate nonsense, Monsanto, drones, spying, bail outs - ALL OF IT - would have been swept under the carpet by conservatives if Republicans had been elected. It's only because Obama is a Democrat and personally despised that all of these things have become open scandals.

So...NO, you did the right thing. We need to see the ugly open face of treason and recognize it is the entire system and both parties - NOT ONE INDIVIDUAL. When Obama is gone, the same system will stay in place with the same criminalities.
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Because he showed himself as a good guy.
Good guys dont kill, good guys dont torture (waterboard), good guys want concentration camps closed.
He was liberal and he was perfectly properly and reasonably, human loving and solid, able to love at all.

I still belive in him but i know there is forces in your country that are against all that.
I really belive he wanted to close Guantanamo but he failed within the US politicans, he is not almighty.

What you guys call Obamacare is pretty normal way of life here in Europe. EVERYONE has a right of medical care, even if he can not pay for it, he will be cured.

I still think, his way is right and i still know, its not everyones opinion in the USA.

How mutch worth is a human life in the USA ?
In Europe, it is pretty worthy and people fight for the lifes of unknown others.

But no worries, we have the konservatives here running the show, selling EVERY STATE OWNED PROPERTY to private hands and totally ruining our country.

Our interior minister seems to be a big friend of the US spying as he said its ok, so you see, we have our own problems with politicans too here.
My rights trump your fucked thinking. - Trinity
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07/01/2013 10:18 AM
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We hate Negros.
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You need to hate liberal honkies too.
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07/01/2013 10:28 AM
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Negros not living in Africa are per definition liberal!

Pay your taxes and say thank you for this insane system!

BTW: The French and the Arabs started it all! What you see now is the effect of the slave trade!
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Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !:Odickhead:
 Quoting: brassbat


Nobody blames the Americans! ;-)

I know the Americans are in the absolute majority good and hard working people, enjoying life as we do here. I know, because I have some relatives overseas.

The worse must be now, the masses wake up in a world of which only the crazy and conspiracy theorists talked about.

Maybe that's why a black became president, because they will pass the buck and stamp him as responsible for this surveillance apparatus.

If you want to understand the Germans a little, you have to read the comment - and then who, if not the Germans had to get up the duty in this case?

And all Americans, which basically says "Who cares?", no problem - continue to live in your nutshell. Exactly what they expect from you!
 Quoting: Niemand


That sounds plausible. I wish it didn't but the current stirring by MSM on race issues, adds to the plausibility. They have a choice to feed the problem or squelch it and it appears they are feeding it.
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We never loved Obama but we were happy the other Guy left.
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Every hero is a human, there are no perfect humans. They all have a fault. It's kind of like the whole false messiah thing. lolsign
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07/01/2013 10:42 AM
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Bush, Iraq & "Media" ... do I have to say more? Germany is a banana republic, like the USA.
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We hate Negros.
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We hate them too - and mixed race brownies.

And we hate being spied on. I think it is time for the Right Wing to take control in Europe.
It is the only way to protect peoples privacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


I believe you both are somebody's puppet, trying to fuel the same race issues as MSM.

To hate anyone based on their skin color is like judging a book by it's cover.

It's a sign of a lack of intelligence.
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Because he showed himself as a good guy.
Good guys dont kill, good guys dont torture (waterboard), good guys want concentration camps closed.
He was liberal and he was perfectly properly and reasonably, human loving and solid, able to love at all.

I still belive in him but i know there is forces in your country that are against all that.
I really belive he wanted to close Guantanamo but he failed within the US politicans, he is not almighty.

What you guys call Obamacare is pretty normal way of life here in Europe. EVERYONE has a right of medical care, even if he can not pay for it, he will be cured.

I still think, his way is right and i still know, its not everyones opinion in the USA.

How mutch worth is a human life in the USA ?
In Europe, it is pretty worthy and people fight for the lifes of unknown others.

But no worries, we have the konservatives here running the show, selling EVERY STATE OWNED PROPERTY to private hands and totally ruining our country.

Our interior minister seems to be a big friend of the US spying as he said its ok, so you see, we have our own problems with politicans too here.
 Quoting: Rawfox



Greeks and Spaniards, among others, have been following the libtard formula for years, and they're among the most screwed up parts of Europe and the world.

Libtardism sounds nice and beautiful, but it's all a big ploy, full of crocodile tears.
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i do not like the current gun laws in germany tho...means i can not bring my arms. that's not cool.
 Quoting: m&m's


No, you can only have weapons, if you're in a kind of sport shooting club. ;-)
 Quoting: Niemand


right, but as i understand the law i cannot take my weapons over there.

hmmm...maybe if i did citizenship first, joined a rod and gun club, and then came over. lots of things are uncertain future wise for me, so i am weighing options...and risks.

thx for the reply - i will reinvestigate should germany become an option.
 Quoting: m&m's




None of my business, just hitch-hiking on your conversation here, but it seems like the plan you're laying out will take quite a bit of time, considering how slowly the Bureaucracy functions.

Given the urgency of World events, and the dangerous escalation of hostilities between Countries, will you have enough TIME to complete all of the requirements before TSHTF?

Good luck, and best wishes. hf Don't blame you a bit for thinking of re-locating; I'm sure that a whole BUNCH of Americans would consider the same thing if they could swing it somehow.
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We hate Negros.
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We hate them too - and mixed race brownies.

And we hate being spied on. I think it is time for the Right Wing to take control in Europe.
It is the only way to protect peoples privacy.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


When you say "We", are you speaking for your country as a whole, or just a particular racist group for which you are a part?
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You just have to assume every countries leader is a psychopathic piece of shit, once you achieve such understanding you'll never love one again, Germany.
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This^^^^^^ Politicians are all cut from the same pos,is obvious.poop
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I'll take America over Germany any day. I was there a year ago, and in Germany, it's ok for a teenage boy to kidnap a 4 year old off a park and rape her. The Polizei even tried to keep me from telling my neighbors because it might hurt his feelings. A lot of backward laws in Germany. Everyone is so afraid to speak up. Afraid it will return to what it once was that you guys let little rapists get away with what they are doing. I understand the fear. But I hate with a vengeance the fear that you all have to stand up. At least in America I have a feeling that people will rise up when needed.
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you say " now you don't trust him???"

corporatism controls\plays both sides of the fence, the republic and democrat, been that way for a long long time...we are in the final stages of a planned take over from within.

Any two party system is ripe for a takeover by money makers\and control freaks, common sense tells you that.


I am stuck on a planet full of self indulge n blind idiots..i know you will be the first to die, and that brings peace to me.
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We never loved Obama but we were happy the other Guy left.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29186829


So all Bush did was set things up for Obama to be a shoo-in, it seems like?
Occam's Razor, morans!
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At least in America I have a feeling that people will rise up when needed.
 Quoting: Brandywine84


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Thats what all fear.
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Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !Odickhead
 Quoting: brassbat


MOst of us would love to take him out behind the woodshed and give him the lesson of his adult life!! He's worse than a benadict arnold! He is the biggest treasonous asshole ever on the face of the earth! And he is busy appointing those of the same mindset just like hitler did!!!

It shows you know he will never be impeached and he wasnt elected, he was appointed, dont ever forget that. And on top of it is not even qualified to run for president.

We amercians by in large are completely sick of him!!! BUt the media will never take an actual pole that reflects that!!! They helped him to be elected.

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Excuse my not good english.

My confidence into the united states are deeply down. I am very disappointed and sad. So we can not make a free trade agreement because we can not have confidence on our partner. The government of the united states, especially President Barack HUSSEIN Obama have to say clearly words to the german AND EU citizens.

the spy affair is the deep point of the relations of our states. We, I, have NO MORE CONFIDENCE on the U.S. and I hope the EU will take down the talks to the free trade agreement and the ruled out the contract of flight passenger date and bank data.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR A PENALTY TO THE UNITED STATES. So we can not make again!
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Excuse my not good english.

My confidence into the united states are deeply down. I am very disappointed and sad. So we can not make a free trade agreement because we can not have confidence on our partner. The government of the united states, especially President Barack HUSSEIN Obama have to say clearly words to the german AND EU citizens.

the spy affair is the deep point of the relations of our states. We, I, have NO MORE CONFIDENCE on the U.S. and I hope the EU will take down the talks to the free trade agreement and the ruled out the contract of flight passenger date and bank data.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR A PENALTY TO THE UNITED STATES. So we can not make again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42638604


I am pretty sure that your English was good enough to make clear how we in Europe and especially in Germany think about the U.S. Gobamaverment. On the other hand, believe me, most Americans see this the very same way. That's the bad thing, they see it and do nothing.
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Good question.
I can't speak for the Germans, personally I liked his positive karma and encouraging speeches.
It took me one term to read his real character.

I'm still a US fan, just disappointed by the extend of the NSA snooping.

We got spied on like Pakistan or Iran, despite the fact of 60 million US citizens with German descent.
OK, now we know we're just 3rd class partners and we gonna react appropriate.
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I didn't trust Obama when he held his first speech in Germany and was sure after he got elected in the United States when he kept whispering Ďyes we caní in a hypnotics way and watched the masses repeating his mantra.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31381689


yeah, i know. i recognized the NLP but i stupidly voted for him in 2008 bc he was on the dem ticket and at the time (tho not now) sarah palin worried me....she was also doing NLP stuff (imho) tho to a lesser degree in the VP debate. i was wrong, but mccain has no stones either. he proved that on his trips to libya and syria and on immigration. what a fucking hosebag.
 Quoting: m&m's


It doesn't matter anymore who gets voted in. Both sides are owned. The ONLY difference between the 2 parties is the rhetoric. The agenda rolls forward no matter which party is in office.
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Come on ... Germans' LIONIZED Obama when he was first elected. They LOVED HIM. Virtually the third coming of Christ (Christ #1, Hitler #2) himself!!

Look at the huge love feast at the Brandenberg Gate a few years back!!

Obama has not changed at all. He was back then exactly what he is today.

Germans seem to have this special ability to totally embrace a Devil ... until the Devil has turned on them and started to devour THEM. As long as the Devil is devouring someone else they will lionize him and support him, if fact even assist him in devouring others.

It is a character flaw of the German mindset ... one that still seems to be there even after the experience of Hitler and the East German Police State.
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Come on ... Germans' LIONIZED Obama when he was first elected. They LOVED HIM. Virtually the third coming of Christ (Christ #1, Hitler #2) himself!!

Look at the huge love feast at the Brandenberg Gate a few years back!!

Obama has not changed at all. He was back then exactly what he is today.

Germans seem to have this special ability to totally embrace a Devil ... until the Devil has turned on them and started to devour THEM. As long as the Devil is devouring someone else they will lionize him and support him, if fact even assist him in devouring others.

It is a character flaw of the German mindset ... one that still seems to be there even after the experience of Hitler and the East German Police State.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20589235


It wasn't just the Germans though, many of the Europeans nations fell for the shyster in chief. It was just us normal folks who knew he was a con artist from the beginning. And no I didn't vote for mccain either, I voted libertarian for the first time in 2008 because I couldn't stomach voting for that douche bag mccain.

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