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Germans Loved Obama - Now We Donít Trust Him

 
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Good question.
I can't speak for the Germans, personally I liked his positive karma and encouraging speeches.
It took me one term to read his real character.

I'm still a US fan, just disappointed by the extend of the NSA snooping.

We got spied on like Pakistan or Iran, despite the fact of 60 million US citizens with German descent.
OK, now we know we're just 3rd class partners and we gonna react appropriate.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42612077


No wonder how the U.S. brought it at Forbes List No. 3 in technological advance. What would the U.S. actually be without Germans?

We'll see!
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Dear German, French People:

We Americans apologize for the spying that has been done in your country.

We elected Barak Hussein Obama because he was a slick black guy. No one even checked his birth certificate. He is a Lawyer that wants to be a smart professor. He is a liberal but does not understand economics. He is a Chicago politician who never owned or operated a business and yet he is supposed to guide us through the worst recession since the 1930s.

He is incompetent. He was never vetted by the American press because they wanted a black guy as president so bad, they were blind. He is what the Russians discovered years ago - he is "in over his head" he doesn't know what he is talking about. All he cares is getting elected by the worst unproductive people in America; unions, government employees, welfare rats and blacks.

You will find out that they used the excuse of terror for their own political advantage.
All this spying was to find "dirt" on political adversaries at home and abroad. It was all so Obama and his fellow Democrats can get and remain in power. He didn't even have to know about what happened, he just had to appoint the right person to head the department. He talked to them with no records, no emails, no tapes. Why do you think he was on the golf course so much? Obama, in his first term, has spent roughly 600 hours on the golf course, and roughly 536 hours discussing the P.D.B. with his intelligence and national security advisors.

Again we apologize, but unfortunately we have to wait until they screw things up so bad that more competent people are put in the office by the American electorate. (Like Carter then Reagan.

sincerely,
Jack
:P
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The world is finally getting to realize what a fucking liar Obama is. Not only a liar, but a completely incompetent, utter fool.
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now....

lets look at this from a differnt perspective.

the "OUTSIDE PERSPECTIVE".

who would gain from a diversion of NATO, US/EUROPEAN alliance?

isnt this a clear strategy following the "divide et impera" paradigm?

this world is about to CHANGE as Obama predicted.
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Cui bono?
 Quoting: reader9


The question is WHICH FACTION of the New World Order would gain? The NWO controls, or heavily influences ALL western governments, China, Russia, Brazil and Israel.
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Excuse my not good english.

My confidence into the united states are deeply down. I am very disappointed and sad. So we can not make a free trade agreement because we can not have confidence on our partner. The government of the united states, especially President Barack HUSSEIN Obama have to say clearly words to the german AND EU citizens.

the spy affair is the deep point of the relations of our states. We, I, have NO MORE CONFIDENCE on the U.S. and I hope the EU will take down the talks to the free trade agreement and the ruled out the contract of flight passenger date and bank data.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR A PENALTY TO THE UNITED STATES. So we can not make again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42638604


PENALTY?
Are you kidding. The US protected us and kept Berlin alive while surrounded by the USSR.

Don't forget the NSA intelligence prevented 2 terror attacks in Germany. Our BND doesn't have such capabilities.

The NSA is important, just the extent of the spying is inappropriate.

And a free trade zone is a win win. I'm done with Chinese products and willing to pay a premium on Made in USA.
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I dont trust Germans as well. They shake your hand and the next minute your wallet is missing (and they blame u for that too)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42581831


Oh please, what is this nonsense? Have you already seen Germans stealing in Greece? ;-)

Your problem is another one, but you ought to scrutinize the actions of your government.
 Quoting: Niemand


This is the problem, our governments cause the these issues, not the people! Unfortunately the people blame each other and as we see here it divides us. The normal working person in Germany does not and will not take anything from Greece. As for the politicians, well that may well be a different story, only they know what their plans are. Please don't let events that we have no control over cause this divide, especially here on GLP.
 Quoting: bigsmidsy


That's what the Romans said, but they still fled England when the Empire collapsed.

Stop beating around the Bush. The USA needs to be taken out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


I'm surprised the Romans stayed so long, the weathers awful here!! As for "taking out" the Americans, I can't agree with that at all. You can't blame an entire nation for the actions of a few people, that's doesn't make any sense.
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Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37780293


My husband and I felt the same way. Brainwashed by a toddler's tv show slogan "Yes we can!" from Bob the Builder. It was completely surreal. I think a lot of the hypnotized masses have awakened, however. In his last campaign he couldn't even get enough people to come to his speeches to fill up a small lecture hall.
 Quoting: Spiritmyst




And all of THOSE people were pre-screened so that they'd be really enthusiastic. Almost like paid shills, although I doubt whether the NLP'd audiences were paid a nickel to be there.

Yet somehow, some way, by some ironic "twist of fate", he is once again our "leader". Or should I say "Dear Leader"?
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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NSA affair: Attacks Berlin

The government reviews its communication networks, Angela Merkel is angry about U.S. President Barack Obama. The SPD does not take the outrage from the Chancellor - and makes the NSA affair a campaign issue for next elections!

[link to translate.google.de]
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Oh please, what is this nonsense? Have you already seen Germans stealing in Greece? ;-)

Your problem is another one, but you ought to scrutinize the actions of your government.
 Quoting: Niemand


This is the problem, our governments cause the these issues, not the people! Unfortunately the people blame each other and as we see here it divides us. The normal working person in Germany does not and will not take anything from Greece. As for the politicians, well that may well be a different story, only they know what their plans are. Please don't let events that we have no control over cause this divide, especially here on GLP.
 Quoting: bigsmidsy


That's what the Romans said, but they still fled England when the Empire collapsed.

Stop beating around the Bush. The USA needs to be taken out.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


I'm surprised the Romans stayed so long, the weathers awful here!! As for "taking out" the Americans, I can't agree with that at all. You can't blame an entire nation for the actions of a few people, that's doesn't make any sense.
 Quoting: bigsmidsy


Thank you for your kind words! Greetings from Germany!

bushhitler
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07/01/2013 12:19 PM
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Amerikan.

We are still deciding the fate of your country:

Chose between:

Nuke Strike, Plague, Fiscal Collapse, Obama for Life President, Oil in Euros and Roubles, Civil War or Starvation.

Combinations always accepted.

Oh, and you are all driving on the the wrong side of the road, pronounce Aluminium wrong, still use outdated Imperial units, and your temperatures are just gay.

Degrees are in Celsius!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106


I'll admit, this make me laugh. Out loud.
 Quoting: AnathemaTNO




I wonder if anyone ever laughs "in soft"?!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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Bush was such a horrible president that he forced the political pendulum to swing so far to the left that now we are stuck with a Neo-Marxist anti-capitalist and anti-American president in the White House IMO. What's worse is that now this current administration has taken the NSA surveillance program that Bush Sr. started and has blown it out the barn doors by expanding the program to spy on everyone including "patriotic" Americans, Europeans and anyone else around the world who may type "Obama" or "surveillance" or "NSA" onto their laptops or other devices. As a matter of fact, this post will likely be going straight to the NSA data mining center here in the states. Yes, we certainly lost our privacy in the name of "security" and I fear it won't be long before this administrations's own version of the brown shirts (I.e. FEMA surge protection force) will be knocking on doors of those who are not in-line with this current administration's policies/ideology. Sadly, we are seeing history repeat itself and there doesn't seem to be much resistance, and when Americans do finally wake up it will be while on the trains heading to FEMA camps just as the Jews were headed to the concentration camps.
 Quoting: Numb9


There is much truth in your post, and if you draw the logical conclusion, you know well why they've built FEMA camps and the police state.

hidinghidinghiding
 Quoting: Niemand


Well, they aren't planning on exterminating the Mexican immigrants - that's for sure.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1483106




Perhaps that's the TRUE explanation behind Obama's "non-existent" Birth Certificate - he's actually Mexican and wants to move the whole entire population up to America!
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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The ability to monitor any individual, track movements, collect and store private communications, personal information and thoughts, all financial transactions.. etc. has provided this administration the kind of powers only God could have...

The Germans are the only ones pissed?

:P
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Welcome to the club ! It just takes a little more time for some to figure him out. He can be an eloquent speaker but if you really listen you begin to realize he's nothing but a lying sack of shit ! He really has no clue what he's talking about. All he does is read someone else's shit off his teleprompter and most of the time he makes no sense. Americans really got suckered electing this asshole ! However with a little bit of subterfuge and voter fraud and he's in. Not once but twice ! Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me. Please don't blame Americans for the things he does because most hard working people don't agree with his agenda. Most of us just hope we survive his second term !Odickhead
 Quoting: brassbat


Years ago, when I was in Britain I remember watching Obama get elected. It sent cold shivers down my spine to see the way that masses of people, especially when he visited Europe (and Germany in particular), seemed to be idolising him for no apparent logical reason (after all, he hadn't done anything at that point). I felt like I was the only one who was saying that he was 'shifty' - it felt like everyone around me was brainwashed. At least now people are waking up to what morons they have been.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37780293


Was even stranger that he got the Nobel Peace Prize before he had done anything. It was like they gave it to him in advanced because they believed he'd bring peace, like some sort of messiah.

Scary how suceptible people are to the mainstream influence.

Last Edited by Earth Daughter on 07/01/2013 12:42 PM
"Arrows of hate have been shot at me too, but they never hit me, because somehow they belonged to another world, with which I have no connection whatsoever." - Albert Einstein
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The world is finally getting to realize what a fucking liar Obama is. Not only a liar, but a completely incompetent, utter fool.
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applause2
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Excuse my not good english.

My confidence into the united states are deeply down. I am very disappointed and sad. So we can not make a free trade agreement because we can not have confidence on our partner. The government of the united states, especially President Barack HUSSEIN Obama have to say clearly words to the german AND EU citizens.

the spy affair is the deep point of the relations of our states. We, I, have NO MORE CONFIDENCE on the U.S. and I hope the EU will take down the talks to the free trade agreement and the ruled out the contract of flight passenger date and bank data.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR A PENALTY TO THE UNITED STATES. So we can not make again!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42638604


PENALTY?
Are you kidding. The US protected us and kept Berlin alive while surrounded by the USSR.

Don't forget the NSA intelligence prevented 2 terror attacks in Germany. Our BND doesn't have such capabilities.

The NSA is important, just the extent of the spying is inappropriate.

And a free trade zone is a win win. I'm done with Chinese products and willing to pay a premium on Made in USA.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42612077


it's good to hear positives (albeit from the past & hopefully future) about the USA, esp. since it seemed you kicked us out in the 1990s and decided to make gast arbeiters citizens - giving them the housing we built, nevermind all the infrastructure we built with OUR TAX DOLLARS after germany started WW2. my Mom remembers US Army soldiers bringing lunch every day to her school, for some of her classmates that was their only meal of the day.
it seemed we got a big ole "fuck you very much" once your economy was doing well against the dollar.

bc of this and other experiences i DO NOT believe in nation building. germany should be a colony of the USA....and how about you pay us back for all the rebuilding we did?

so...anyway good to read the points you made.
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We never loved Obama but we were happy the other Guy left.
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Yeah, but see (and this goes for the stupid, dumbed down, public-school graduated Americans too) the "other guy" would have left regardless - his two terms were up. For those who say that they voted for Obama because they hated Bush - that's not only imbecilic, but demonstrates a dismal knowledge of American Civics.

I know that they USED to teach Civics in school, but I guess they don't have time for it anymore since they now prefer to teach about how Mary Has Two Mommies, or Bobby Has Two Daddies, or Muslim Week (where all the kids dress like Muslims and pray to Mecca), or teaching Kindergarteners about "fisting" and masturbation, or making sure that boys can be in the girls' restroom or girls can be in the boys' restroom because they claim to be "transgendered" instead of "perverted". All of which is INFINITELY more important than learning how the Government of one's own Country runs, wouldn't you agree?

Even our new National Hero, Trayvon, had a girlfriend who is 19 and a SOPHOMORE (usually 14 - 15) and can't read.

Heckuva job, Teachers! You've done your Unions proud.
"I have come to the conclusion that all news should be treated like 9/11, assume it is a psyop with actors participating in a staged event complete with props, until proven otherwise, in which case assume whatever is being recorded, reported, televised, is distortions/lying by omission/outright lies, until proven otherwise." - Anonymous, 4-13-12
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And here I thought us Americans were supposed to be stupid.
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When I see how passionate people can get about their perceived privacy, I wish there were no nuclear or other weapons at all.

For those who believe it, remember God sees everything too.

They couldn't resist the temptation, IT/spy budgets had to be justified. Will they learn? Not while China/Russia others use exact same tactics, no.

These are all symptoms, exterior displays of the underwar which has already been won by the forces of good in 1969 in the lower astrals.
 Quoting: schiehallion


i know God sees all...that is okay.

and...

while i have nothing to hide i have been interrogated and spied upon and possibly worse.

they are focusing on people like me who may be opinonated but who are patriotic citizens INSTEAD of focusing on muslims an mosques!!!

this is the problem - obama's misuse of this program!
 Quoting: m&m's


Nobody give a sh*t what you are doing. They want to know what all the other world leaders current and future are doing. You are a mere casualty of the method.
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The ability to monitor any individual, track movements, collect and store private communications, personal information and thoughts, all financial transactions.. etc. has provided this administration the kind of powers only God could have...

The Germans are the only ones pissed?

:P
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You need to broaden you world news reading. It goes far beyond the Germans.
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We never loved Obama but we were happy the other Guy left.
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Yeah, but see (and this goes for the stupid, dumbed down, public-school graduated Americans too) the "other guy" would have left regardless - his two terms were up. For those who say that they voted for Obama because they hated Bush - that's not only imbecilic, but demonstrates a dismal knowledge of American Civics.

I know that they USED to teach Civics in school, but I guess they don't have time for it anymore since they now prefer to teach about how Mary Has Two Mommies, or Bobby Has Two Daddies, or Muslim Week (where all the kids dress like Muslims and pray to Mecca), or teaching Kindergarteners about "fisting" and masturbation, or making sure that boys can be in the girls' restroom or girls can be in the boys' restroom because they claim to be "transgendered" instead of "perverted". All of which is INFINITELY more important than learning how the Government of one's own Country runs, wouldn't you agree?

Even our new National Hero, Trayvon, had a girlfriend who is 19 and a SOPHOMORE (usually 14 - 15) and can't read.

Heckuva job, Teachers! You've done your Unions proud.
 Quoting: Eggcellent


So now they've convinced you American teachers are to blame. lolsign

You are one sad little puppet.
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.

Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe


[link to www.spiegel.de]

Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe

[link to www.spiegel.de]

Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations


[link to www.spiegel.de]

Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying

[link to www.spiegel.de]

Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain

[link to translate.google.de]
 Quoting: Niemand


clappa
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In Germany, whenever the government begins to infringe on individual freedom, society stands up. Given our history, we Germans are not willing to trade in our liberty for potentially better security. Germans have experienced firsthand what happens when the government knows too much about someone. In the past 80 years, Germans have felt the betrayal of neighbors who informed for the Gestapo and the fear that best friends might be potential informants for the Stasi. Homes were tapped. Millions were monitored.

Although these two dictatorships, Nazi and Communist, are gone and we now live in a unified and stable democracy, we have not forgotten what happens when secret police or intelligence agencies disregard privacy. It is an integral part of our history and gives young and old alike a critical perspective on state surveillance systems.

[link to www.nytimes.com]

Cover Story: How the NSA Targets Germany and Europe


[link to www.spiegel.de]

Guardian Report: US Engaged in Vast Spying Operation on Europe

[link to www.spiegel.de]

Spying 'Out of Control': EU Official Questions Trade Negotiations


[link to www.spiegel.de]

Growing Alarm: German Prosecutors to Review Allegations of US Spying

[link to www.spiegel.de]

Transatlantic Ice Age - Important American Voices calling: Obama must explain

[link to translate.google.de]
 Quoting: Niemand


clappa

Here is a Shout out for the OP
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AC - no, i do not think niemand is a communist!

Niemand, even tho i love the summers i have usually come in time for the christmas markets. i love them! brought home an artifical christmas tree from that christmas store in the walled city. schiesse - not getting any sleep plus this infection is messing with my head....rothenburg ob den tauber....been there many times but forgot the name!
anyway...i love how beautiful germany is during this time...even in the bleak winter....gluhwein will take that all away! :)

i make traditional german food (learned to cook and bake from my german Mom), but since i am vegetarian i limited it a bit....still make spaetzle, but the gravy is vegetarian and no flesh roast! or kasespaetzle. yum. dampnudeln. i am getting hungry and homesick for heidelberg (my birthplace).

Niemand - it is not good here. this homo shit and illegal aliens and guest workers. you'd think germany would be an example of what NOT to do here in the USA re: immigration (turks, etc. in germany non-assimilation, etc.) i do not even feel at home here anymore.
 Quoting: m&m's


Dampfnudeln?

I am looking for the name of a specialty from Worms, Germany.

it is not noodles at all and may be called Dampfnudel.

a kind of bread-donut steamed and it was soo good!


Studied in Mannheim but never ate mannimer dreck - maybe you have, it is a chocolate thing I think.
Now is the time.
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Dear German, French People:

We Americans apologize for the spying that has been done in your country.

We elected Barak Hussein Obama because he was a slick black guy. No one even checked his birth certificate. He is a Lawyer that wants to be a smart professor. He is a liberal but does not understand economics. He is a Chicago politician who never owned or operated a business and yet he is supposed to guide us through the worst recession since the 1930s.

He is incompetent. He was never vetted by the American press because they wanted a black guy as president so bad, they were blind. He is what the Russians discovered years ago - he is "in over his head" he doesn't know what he is talking about. All he cares is getting elected by the worst unproductive people in America; unions, government employees, welfare rats and blacks.

You will find out that they used the excuse of terror for their own political advantage.
All this spying was to find "dirt" on political adversaries at home and abroad. It was all so Obama and his fellow Democrats can get and remain in power. He didn't even have to know about what happened, he just had to appoint the right person to head the department. He talked to them with no records, no emails, no tapes. Why do you think he was on the golf course so much? Obama, in his first term, has spent roughly 600 hours on the golf course, and roughly 536 hours discussing the P.D.B. with his intelligence and national security advisors.

Again we apologize, but unfortunately we have to wait until they screw things up so bad that more competent people are put in the office by the American electorate. (Like Carter then Reagan.

sincerely,
Jack
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all very true. Thanks for putting this together.
Now is the time.
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My question to our German friends is, WHY did you love Obama in the first place?

His long list of accomplishments?

His stellar resume?

If you (like those of us who paid attention) knew nothing about the man, why did you all confer rock star status upon him before his "election"? Why did you love him when you knew nothing about him?
 Quoting: MartianPrincess


Good question.
I can't speak for the Germans, personally I liked his positive karma and encouraging speeches.
It took me one term to read his real character.

I'm still a US fan, just disappointed by the extend of the NSA snooping.

We got spied on like Pakistan or Iran, despite the fact of 60 million US citizens with German descent.
OK, now we know we're just 3rd class partners and we gonna react appropriate.
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No wonder how the U.S. brought it at Forbes List No. 3 in technological advance. What would the U.S. actually be without Germans?

We'll see!
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my many years in Germany showed me that they are simultaneously

very idealistic and very down-to-earth practical.

For obumfack, the idealistic side took over at first - they loved him for all the superficial reasons any liberal would.

then REALITY set in ......I am glad.
Now is the time.
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Dampfnudeln?

I am looking for the name of a specialty from Worms, Germany.

it is not noodles at all and may be called Dampfnudel.

a kind of bread-donut steamed and it was soo good!


Studied in Mannheim but never ate mannimer dreck - maybe you have, it is a chocolate thing I think.
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I'M LOVIN' ITô
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Amerikan.

We are still deciding the fate of your country:

Chose between:

Nuke Strike, Plague, Fiscal Collapse, Obama for Life President, Oil in Euros and Roubles, Civil War or Starvation.

Combinations always accepted.

Oh, and you are all driving on the the wrong side of the road, pronounce Aluminium wrong, still use outdated Imperial units, and your temperatures are just gay.

Degrees are in Celsius!
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I'll admit, this make me laugh. Out loud.
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I wonder if anyone ever laughs "in soft"?!
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I just did.
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Excuse my not good english.

My confidence into the united states are deeply down. I am very disappointed and sad. So we can not make a free trade agreement because we can not have confidence on our partner. The government of the united states, especially President Barack HUSSEIN Obama have to say clearly words to the german AND EU citizens.

the spy affair is the deep point of the relations of our states. We, I, have NO MORE CONFIDENCE on the U.S. and I hope the EU will take down the talks to the free trade agreement and the ruled out the contract of flight passenger date and bank data.

IT IS NOW TIME FOR A PENALTY TO THE UNITED STATES. So we can not make again!
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I am pretty sure that your English was good enough to make clear how we in Europe and especially in Germany think about the U.S. Gobamaverment. On the other hand, believe me, most Americans see this the very same way. That's the bad thing, they see it and do nothing.
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It's not that we do nothing! We try to resist his policies legally (we ARE a "Nation Of Law", after all) but have so many roadblocks put in our way, while at the same time Obama does "end runs" around our Constitution by coming up with all sorts of Executive Orders, which basically have devolved into Presidential Declarations Of Law. Have you been following the IRS Hearings where Conservative political groups were stonewalled and strung along for up to 3 YEARS in getting a permit, while Obama's brother received HIS permit within 2 WEEKS? (and there was no proof that his group was in any way deserving of a tax-exempt status, either).

Obama learned his political "style" in Chicago, and has surrounded himself with cronies from Chicago. He is running the country the same gangster way that Al Capone ran Chicago.

Only, Capone did a better job.
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Him who?

Obammy or the Germans??
I have so much debt, I can start a government.
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U.S. spying in Germany: The lovely allies

Welcome to the Cold War 2.0: Just we were best friends, now the Germans are only "third-class partner." Do Americans still not trust us, almost 70 years after the war? The answer is no. But they trust nobody anyway.

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Yes, it was a beautiful day, a hot day, when the U.S. President Barack Obama visited Berlin, not even two weeks ago that he was sweating in front of the Brandenburg Gate so much that he took off his jacket and said, "Under friends we can be a little relaxed."

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