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the bible is not the Word

 
Keep2theCode

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Is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to say something is from Satan when in fact it is from God?
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Yes, it is.
I tell you truly that all people's sins and blasphemies will be forgiven, unless they blaspheme the Holy Spirit. There is no acquittal for that in this age, and they are guilty of an eternal sin." (He said this because they had accused him of having an unclean spirit.
 Quoting: Jesus, in Mark 3:28-30

Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? (Gal. 4:16)
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Yeah its not blasphemy of the Spirit but its resistance because according to Christians today The Spirit is dead. That's all I've learned in church anyway and from people who are taught by other men. God is dead that'd the message
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


I've never met a christian that believes the Spirit of God is dead.

What kind of church did you go to? Some churches are good, some are really pathetic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


They say God does not speak anymore He doesn't do miracles nothing
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I agree with everything in your post except for the bolded part. It's not even close to blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is basically calling God the evil one and attributing His Holy Power to evil deeds that the enemy does. It's hating God and speaking out against Him, accusing Him of evil....and accusing Him of being the enemy, which is satan.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa

It is saying that people who wrote the Bible were under baptism of the Holy Spirit and they could lie at the same time.

Nor is the Bible about spirituality, God is literalism at it's finest.

1Co:4:20:
For the kingdom of God is not in word,
but in power.

Heb:10:31:
It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
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Is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to say something is from Satan when in fact it is from God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Yes, that's right......but the intent of the person has to be evil driven........not just stupidity.

Do you understand the difference?
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Yeah its not blasphemy of the Spirit but its resistance because according to Christians today The Spirit is dead. That's all I've learned in church anyway and from people who are taught by other men. God is dead that'd the message
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


I've never met a christian that believes the Spirit of God is dead.

What kind of church did you go to? Some churches are good, some are really pathetic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


They say God does not speak anymore He doesn't do miracles nothing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


They are wrong, and they are the ones who is dead. Not God and not His Holy Spirit.

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And if He does..its satan
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Yeah its not blasphemy of the Spirit but its resistance because according to Christians today The Spirit is dead. That's all I've learned in church anyway and from people who are taught by other men. God is dead that'd the message
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


I've never met a christian that believes the Spirit of God is dead.

What kind of church did you go to? Some churches are good, some are really pathetic.
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


They say God does not speak any more He doesn't do miracles nothing
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Some people have been saying that since the late 2nd century. "Montanism" was considered a heresy because Montanus and his followers thought the Spirit did work in that day the same way the Spirit worked in the time of Christ.

[link to en.wikipedia.org]
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The Bible is not the word of God and the Bible Jesus didn't exist.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Yes He does
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So you are saying the Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament exists. So where is this entity at then?
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Why don't you seek Him out and see
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I've been there and done that. I used to be a Christian until I started doing some research in the matter and deep meditation.
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I had fallen prey to one of the chronic illnesses of our time: organized religion. Religion gets in the way of our true connection with God.
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I had fallen prey to one of the chronic illnesses of our time: organized religion. Religion gets in the way of our true connection with God.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Yes it does. Jesus was anti religion. Pro faith
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Yes He does
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42652176


So you are saying the Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament exists. So where is this entity at then?
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Why don't you seek Him out and see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41560558


I've been there and done that. I used to be a Christian until I started doing some research in the matter and deep meditation.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Thank you
that was exactly the point of my post before

because after the first initial Zeal is over,
the zeal of ' thinking that jesus is a magickal way of believing',
and the believer has to grow, he will not find much food, "if the Word is not applied", explained, [ which is indeed rarely the case anywhere no more these days]
to explain the world and the spiritual world in His context;

then those souls who desíre to grow,
will say goodbye and search their own methods and ways
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Yes He does
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42652176


So you are saying the Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament exists. So where is this entity at then?
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Why don't you seek Him out and see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41560558


I've been there and done that. I used to be a Christian until I started doing some research in the matter and deep meditation.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


How were you a Christian?? Did you have revelation from God?? Or were you just a churchian?? Seek God
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Is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to say something is from Satan when in fact it is from God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Yes, that's right......but the intent of the person has to be evil driven........not just stupidity.

Do you understand the difference?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yes I see.
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So you are saying the Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament exists. So where is this entity at then?
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Why don't you seek Him out and see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41560558


I've been there and done that. I used to be a Christian until I started doing some research in the matter and deep meditation.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Thank you
that was exactly the point of my post before

because after the first initial Zeal is over,
the zeal of ' thinking that jesus is a magickal way of believing',
and the believer has to grow, he will not find much food, "if the Word is not applied", explained, [ which is indeed rarely the case anywhere no more these days]
to explain the world and the spiritual world in His context;

then those souls who desíre to grow,
will say goodbye and search their own methods and ways
 Quoting: lone 1644220


*added*
" and most of the time fall into a False version of biblical spiritual belief"
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I had fallen prey to one of the chronic illnesses of our time: organized religion. Religion gets in the way of our true connection with God.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007



The only truth is in Jesus Christ and Him alone. I hope you seek the Lord Jesus Christ before it's too late.

Last Edited by Lisa*Lisa on 07/01/2013 07:50 PM
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So you are saying the Jesus that was portrayed in the New Testament exists. So where is this entity at then?
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


Why don't you seek Him out and see
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 41560558


I've been there and done that. I used to be a Christian until I started doing some research in the matter and deep meditation.
 Quoting: Truthseeker007


How were you a Christian?? Did you have revelation from God?? Or were you just a churchian?? Seek God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Be careful who you listen to. This is one reason reading and studying the bible, the written word of God is so important OP. It is a protection for you in this world of deceptions.

It won't end well for those who are Blasphemers of God and His Spirit.

Last Edited by Lisa*Lisa on 07/01/2013 07:44 PM
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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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How to know if someone is purposely evil trying to tear you away from God and blaspheming His Spirit or of its a demon working through them?? Stupidity doesn't apply in my personal experience ...I saw the battle
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Christ divides!
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They do not include the second world, thats why it is all misunderstood
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How to know if someone is purposely evil trying to tear you away from God and blaspheming His Spirit or of its a demon working through them?? Stupidity doesn't apply in my personal experience ...I saw the battle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Those who do that kind of evil have allowed it to happen. They have turned against God and joined forces with satan himself.

Only God knows for sure if the person has been completely taken over or not.

What is the battle you're talking about? Has this happened to someone you know?

Last Edited by Lisa*Lisa on 07/01/2013 07:55 PM
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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How to know if someone is purposely evil trying to tear you away from God and blaspheming His Spirit or of its a demon working through them?? Stupidity doesn't apply in my personal experience ...I saw the battle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Those who do that kind of evil have allowed it to happen. They have turned against God and joined forces with satan himself.

Only God knows for sure if the person has been completely taken over or not.

What is the battle you're talking about? Has this happened to someone you know?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yeah God revealed Himself as Jesus to me FOR REAL and I found out wolves are everywhere. "Christians" around me told me it wasn't real it wasn't God.
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How to know if someone is purposely evil trying to tear you away from God and blaspheming His Spirit or of its a demon working through them?? Stupidity doesn't apply in my personal experience ...I saw the battle
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Those who do that kind of evil have allowed it to happen. They have turned against God and joined forces with satan himself.

Only God knows for sure if the person has been completely taken over or not.

What is the battle you're talking about? Has this happened to someone you know?
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Yeah God revealed Himself as Jesus to me FOR REAL and I found out wolves are everywhere. "Christians" around me told me it wasn't real it wasn't God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


Well, Jesus has revealed Himself to many of us, and yes the wolves are everywhere.

Do you want to share your whole experience? I have visions too, and have been kicked off christian forums and accused of being demon possessed. No kidding.

My email is lisalovesjesus7@gmail.com if you want to talk.

hf
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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Jesus is. People need to stop elevating the book over the Spirit. It's almost like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Number one if you truly seek God you will find Him. Number two He will let you know all His truth. Number three his law is written on our hearts though continual resistance and disobedience will sear the conscience. Number four people know God without a bible. Number five not everyone has a bible. Number six why walk in the spirit if you have a book? Why seek if you know it all? The bible is to point you to God. It is not enough t know about Him with your own interpretation...man shall not live by bread alone but every WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God meaning walk in the light with Him walk in faith . You search the scriptures in them you think you have life but you won't come to Me. What will you do if you get stranded on an island without the bible?
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The Bible IS the Word.

"All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness" 2 Timothy 3:16

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." -John 1:1

"And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." -John 1:14

"The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times" -Psalm 12:6

"Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him." -Proverbs 30:5


I agree that one does not necessarily need a Bible to be led by God and grow in the Spirit as all one has to do is look at the prophets of old, However the Bible is one of the Greatest tools to believers living in this time of history and provides access to great spiritual lessons and the mind of God, and there is surely no quicker way to grow.
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Is it blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to say something is from Satan when in fact it is from God?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35233389


If you are filled with the Holy spirit (you've accepted Jesus as your saviour, repent when you sin and continually seek him) you will be granted the gift of discernment.

Sometimes however because we are human and are imperfect it can be hard to tell, but fear not as long as you have faith in God through Christ Jesus he will not allow his little ones to be deceived.
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Jesus is. People need to stop elevating the book over the Spirit. It's almost like blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Number one if you truly seek God you will find Him. Number two He will let you know all His truth. Number three his law is written on our hearts though continual resistance and disobedience will sear the conscience. Number four people know God without a bible. Number five not everyone has a bible. Number six why walk in the spirit if you have a book? Why seek if you know it all? The bible is to point you to God. It is not enough t know about Him with your own interpretation...man shall not live by bread alone but every WORD that proceeds from the mouth of God meaning walk in the light with Him walk in faith . You search the scriptures in them you think you have life but you won't come to Me. What will you do if you get stranded on an island without the bible?
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Agreed. Someone with an agenda interchangeably uses "word" and "Word". It drives me nuts.
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Jesus this Jesus that.
God this, God that.

NO, we invented the word God just like we invented the word Jesus. It doesn't mean anything. So go spray your cancer on your innocent children, but don't debate your stone-age tales with us sane people. FUCK JESUS, AND FUCK GOD.

Stop speaking on "God"'s behalf, parrots.
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Christ divides!
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"Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division"
-luke 12:51

Oftentimes his Word and those who preach it in purity will bring division as it will separate the sheep from the goats. Most who claim to be Christian follow their own version and not pure Biblical Christianity in which Case when they here the the true Word it will bring conviction and many will resist this.

"as Iron sharpeneth iron; so a man sharpeneth the countenance of his friend." Proverbs 27:17
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This is not the word of God, it is a religion. The Judeo-Christiainian Phariseeism. The Pharisees used the words of Christ for their own purposes to rule the world.
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Instead of the Bible

Read the Christs letters - English version.
His messages are very clear and concise!

[link to www.christsway.co.za]

from the link:

Letter 1. Christ speaks of his reasons for returning to dictate these Letters. Says that mankind bring their own woes upon them through their s thoughts and actions. Explains why his true mission on earth was not recorded properly. Says there is no such thing as 'sin against God' neither is our true Source of Being understood. Describes his six weeks in the desert and what really took place - what he learnt and how the knowledge changed him from rebel to Master and Healer.
Download letter 1: Letter 1.pdf (290 KB )

Letter 2. Continues the story of his life on earth, his return to his mother in Nazareth and reception! His first public healing and the tremendous response. Choosing disciples. His true teachings.
Download letter 2: Letter 2.pdf (290 KB )

Letter 3. Continues life incidents, teachings, his awareness that his time on earth was to be cut short by crucifixion. The things he did to arouse the anger of the Jewish Religious Leaders. What really took place and was said at the 'Last Supper', the disciples' attitudes, and the truth concerning his 'ascension'.
Download letter 3: Letter 3.pdf (242 KB )

Letter 4. Christ gathers up the threads of his teachings in Palestine and says that he and Muhammad, Buddha and all other Masters have continued to develop spiritually until they have all ascended into CHRIST CONSCIOUSNESS. Christ speaks of the truth of the sexual relationship, saying that the attitude between men and women will eventually change. Spiritual progress will take place and children with new spiritual potential will be born.


there are 9 letters at the link, each letter is a pdf of 20 or so pages and downloadable.

Excellent reading

answers many questions,
for those who question the Bible
and want to know what Jesus said from his own words.
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The Bible is not the word of God and the Bible Jesus didn't exist.
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secular history does prove Jesus lived.

"What about non-Biblical references to Jesus Christ? How are they assessed? The works of Tacitus, Suetonius, Josephus, Pliny the Younger, and a few other classical writers include numerous references to Jesus. Of them, The New Encyclopædia Britannica (1995) says: “These independent accounts prove that in ancient times even the opponents of Christianity never doubted the historicity of Jesus, which was disputed for the first time and on inadequate grounds at the end of the 18th, during the 19th, and at the beginning of the 20th centuries.”

[link to wol.jw.org]

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