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if jesus could control demons

 
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if jesus could control demons
wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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Why would He cast them out and help people?? They destroy
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The Pharisees claimed the same thing. Jesus said this was the "unpardonable sin".
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Why would He cast them out and help people?? They destroy
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sounds like a collusion too me then.
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sounds like a shill troll bait thread to me
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Just a bad m,f
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sounds like a shill troll bait thread to me
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are you the shill-troll?
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i control demons. I have sent out my demon to do my bidding.
When i send my demon out, I usually hear the person isnt doing to good
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Re: if jesus could control demons
sounds like a shill troll bait thread to me
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scared You are correct! The shill patrol is out in full force n this one....


pump2 ...... Shill Patrol.....
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24 But when the Pharisees heard it, they said, This fellow doth not cast out devils, but by Beelzebub the prince of the devils.

25 And Jesus knew their thoughts, and said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand:

26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

27 And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your children cast them out? therefore they shall be your judges.

28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God is come unto you.

29 Or else how can one enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man? and then he will spoil his house.

30 He that is not with me is against me; and he that gathereth not with me scattereth abroad.
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Christ is the begotten son of two perfected angelic beings (God and the Holy Spirit). The 2/3 of the angels that did not sin like Satan will also have that right once they are in their 'new Heaven' and they are perfected being of that order. (3rd heaven)

Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,
Heb:12:23:
To the general assembly and church of the firstborn,
which are written in heaven,
and to God the Judge of all,
and to the spirits of just men made perfect,

Marriage is banned until that transition as there would be a chance a child could sin and as such have to be sent to the fiery lake, by waiting until they are in their 'new heaven' their one child is born into a place where he can never fall into sin as they are born already perfected.
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According to Matthew 8-27, Mark 5-8 and Luke 8-3 Jesus could indeed control demons.
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wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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much more
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is God the head of cancer?

head of desease?

you be the judge
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So whoever can flower the christ has this responsibility?
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God formed everything that is formed,where is the form of the void?
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wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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The Jewish leadership accused him of that. His reply was basically; that a house divided against itself can not stand.
So that will be your answer also.
If you have any common sense at all, you will see the truth in that statement. Yet if you are just a troll, you will find an excuse to continue fussing about something.
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wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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Good question. I have heard it said that Yahweh gave power to all his followers over the demons. Demons are only able to influence non-believers & sinners.
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wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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Good question. I have heard it said that Yahweh gave power to all his followers over the demons. Demons are only able to influence non-believers & sinners.
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demons<God

its quite simple actually the more you go from being God,and creating

more you become the devil,and destruction

But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
matthew16:23

not once is satan described as lord of the underworld or anything like that,but ruler of THIS world,and guess who rules this earth?moneyZZZZ

dont be fooled its all about us,the earth

And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.
revelation11:18
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The Pharisees claimed the same thing. Jesus said this was the "unpardonable sin".
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He said:
Mat 12:32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man, it shall be forgiven him. But whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, not in this age nor in the coming one.

So speaking against the Holy Spirit is the "unpardonable sin", not speaking against Jesus.

Since the Holy spirit convicts one of sin and brings you to God's forgiveness, refusing Him, allows you no chance at finding forgiveness.
It's just common sense.
End of Story.
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Re: if jesus could control demons
as the Creator is God of demons,He is also the God of angels

if you want to question and tempt God,go ahead,but your time is growing short
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I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
isaiah45:7
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These troll threads are old,if you have nothing worthwhile to contribute, just shut your pie hole.
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wouldn't that have made him the head demon? the demon lord, lord of demons? just exactly who is this Jesus of Christ? Is he a demon? Sounds like he is too me
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You do not understand spiritual authority.
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Christ isn't a Demon

"And, behold, they cried out, saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of God? art thou come hither to torment us before the time?" Matthew 8:29

"Saying, Let us alone; what have we to do with thee, thou Jesus of Nazareth? art thou come to destroy us? I know thee who thou art, the Holy One of God.

And Jesus rebuked him, saying, Hold thy peace, and come out of him. And when the unclean spirit had torn him, and cried with a loud voice, he came out of him.

And they were all amazed, insomuch that they questioned among themselves, saying, What thing is this? what new doctrine is this? for with authority commandeth he even the unclean spirits, and they do obey him. And immediately his fame spread abroad throughout all the region round about Galilee." Mark 1:24-28


Christ Kicked out the rebellious Evil Angels(Demons) straight out of Heaven, He created them They 'Choose' to Rebel, As THE Creator He Has Every Right to Destroy Them.

"And he was casting out a devil, and it was dumb. And it came to pass, when the devil was gone out, the dumb spake; and the people wondered.

But some of them said, He casteth out devils through Beelzebub the chief of the devils. And others, tempting him, sought of him a sign from heaven. But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house divided against a house falleth.

If Satan also be divided against himself, how shall his kingdom stand? because ye say that I cast out devils through Beelzebub. And if I by Beelzebub cast out devils, by whom do your sons cast them out? therefore shall they be your judges.

But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you. When a strong man armed keepeth his palace, his goods are in peace:

But when a stronger than he shall come upon him, and overcome him, he taketh from him all his armour wherein he trusted, and divideth his spoils.
He that is not with me is against me: and he that gathereth not with me scattereth." Luke 11:14-23

"Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble." James 2:19

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