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Moscow, July 1, Interfax – Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplain, chairman of the Synodal Department for Church and Society Relations, said Russia is moving towards maximum self-reliance and must become the center of global Christianity.
“It is not accidental that many see Russia as a defender of Christian ideals and traditional moral values, as a country that provides a real alternative to the cult of the golden calf and to a suicidal understanding of what freedom is,” Father Vsevolod writes in an article, published in the Rus Derzhavnaya newspaper on Monday.
Russia must start feeling it is the center of the Christian world, he writes. Only if it does will it become an accomplished nation.

The rest is “first, petty and, second, self-destructive for it,” the priest said.

“Russia has told the world in clipped terms that it can definitely speak its own language, the language of a self-sufficient and strong nation, whose traditions and experience give it the right to walk its own way, to defend its own ideas of how society should be set up, and also to offer it to the world,” Fr. Vsevolod said.

However hard one tried to influence the state into following the opinions of narrow groups that link themselves to foreign trends and position themselves as the mouthpiece of “would-be Russia”, or “other Russia,” or “real Russia, nothing worked, he said.

“It is not accidental that we said in clear terms despite pressure coming from the West that we do want to protect children from early sexualization and from the propaganda of homosexuality. And we also said that support for foreign adoptions of Russian children is an extremely irrational step. We do not want these children, adopted by perverts, to lose the hope in which many of them were baptised, and to lose a normal life,” Fr. Vsevolod said.

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OUR LADY OF FATIMA AND RUSSIA
So, to start at the beginning, what did
Our Lady say about Russia? On July 13,
1917, during an apparition to the three
children, she said something they were
not allowed to reveal at the time, and
which came to be known as the “second
part” of the secret. After describing dire
punishments about to befall the world if
mankind did not stop offending God,
Our Lady said: “To prevent this [the
punishment of the world by war,
famine, and persecution of the Church],
I shall come to ask for the consecration
of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, and
the Communion of Reparation on the
First Saturdays. If My requests are
heeded, Russia will be converted and
there will be peace; if not she will
spread her errors throughout the world, causing wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the
Holy Father will have much to suffer, various nations will be
annihilated. In the end, My Immaculate Heart will triumph.
The Holy Father will consecrate Russia to Me, and she will be
converted, and a period of peace will be granted to the world.”
So at Fatima, Our Lady described the consecration as
something she would come to request in the future.
That promise was fulfilled on June 13, 1929, while Sr.
Lucy, then in the Dorothean novitiate
in Tuy, Spain, was praying alone in the
chapel. Sr. Lucy recounted a vision of
the crucified Christ, with Mary under
the cross of her Son, appearing as she
had at Fatima and saying to her: “The
moment has come when God asks the
Holy Father to make, in union with all
the bishops of the world, the consecration of Russia to My Immaculate Heart, promising to save it by this means...
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Ive been think of moving to Russia. I have no faith in America anymore. The worst that could come from Russia is me dying in a car accident. They tend to happen a lot over there.
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People! Do not be naive!
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People! Do not be naive!
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WHAT ARE THEY AFRAID OF?
Despite that record, or in some ways because of it, the
topic of the Fatima consecration remains controversial. What
no one disputes is that, except for Pius XII’s private ceremony in the Vatican gardens, none of these acts consecrated Russia by name. What is disputed—and vociferously so on both sides—is whether these consecrations of the world, of which Russia is obviously a part, “counted” as an adequate response to Our Lady’s request to consecrate Russia.
Can Russia be consecrated without being mentioned? The
Vatican says yes; its critics say no. But this is not the most
important question. The question that begs answering, but
which the Holy See has never addressed publicly, is simply
this: Why not mention Russia? Why is that so unthinkable?
What’s the downside?
Pope John Paul II began his pontificate with the exhortation to the faithful that became, in a sense, his motto: “Be not
afraid.” But “afraid” is precisely the term that describes the Vatican’s reaction to the thought of consecrating Russia by name...

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People! Do not be naive!
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Naive about what exactly?

Are you saying Russia is not Christian?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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In Russia there comes the hope of the world, not as that sometimes termed of the communistic, or Bolshevik, no; but freedom, freedom! That each man will live for his fellow man! The principle has been born. It will take years for it to be crystallised, but out of Russia comes again the hope of the world."
(Edgar Cayce, 1944, No. 3976-29)

... for changes are coming, this may be sure — an evolution, or revolution in the ideas of religious thought. The basis of it for the world will eventually come out of Russia; not communism, no! But rather that which is the basis of the same, as the Christ taught — His kind of communism! (Edgar Cayce, c. 1930, No. 452-6)

On Russia’s religious development will come the greater hope of the world. Then that one or group that is the closer in its relationship [with Russia] may fare the better in gradual changes and final settlement of conditions as to the rule of the world. (Edgar Cayce, c.1932)

[In Russia] a new understanding has come and will come to a troubled people… (Edgar Cayce, c.1938)
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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People! Do not be naive!
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Naive about what exactly?

Are you saying Russia is not Christian?
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This is a great article!


NOW IS THE TIME!

CONSECRATING RUSSIA WILL HELP, NOT HARM, CATHOLIC-ORTHODOX DIALOGUE


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Yes Christian Russia. But don't confuse that with what amerika has zionist christians. Putin dispises zionists.
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You may want to check out this thread OP

Putin has really intrigued me - not sure if he is the real deal yet or just pulling off one hell of a show - anyway, found a lot of very interesting things - the more I look, the more I wonder

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Ten Commandments political party launched in Russia...

A new political party has been launched in Russia with a definite religious bent that seeks to restore moral values to politics.

On Sunday, some 134 delegates representing several Christian denominations as well as Islamic and Jewish faiths attended the inaugural congress of the Ten Commandments Party, Interfax reported.

"We need a real moral revolution, or counterrevolution. The moral values should return to political, economic life, to interpersonal relations," Russian Orthodox Archpriest Vsevolod Chaplin, chairman of the Synodal Department for Church and Society Relations, said at the congress.

The convention comes in the wake of members of the rock band Pussy Riot being convicted of hooliganism for their performance in the Christ the Savior Cathedral and the Russian Parliament passing an anti-blasphemy law, which hasn't been enacted.

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You may want to check out this thread OP

Putin has really intrigued me - not sure if he is the real deal yet or just pulling off one hell of a show - anyway, found a lot of very interesting things - the more I look, the more I wonder

Thread: Putin The Dragon Slayer? Archangel Michael? St. George?
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Thanks will do!
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Yes Christian Russia. But don't confuse that with what amerika has zionist christians. Putin dispises zionists.
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that is why I originally left Christianity

but then prophecies, Russia and Putin got me checking out the Orthodox faith - I had previously been under misconception that they were basically the same as Catholic - they are not - they are the Original
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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No they are idolaters, idolaters are NOT Christians hence they cannot be the center of no Christian world.

Also what part of: This world is not my home

is it they do not understand?
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No they are idolaters, idolaters are NOT Christians hence they cannot be the center of no Christian world.

Also what part of: This world is not my home

is it they do not understand?
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How are they idolators? Orthodox Christians are not Catholic - do not have statues, do not worship the Pope and are far closer to original Christianity than Protestants.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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Wow you figured it out too.

In the 4th seal of Revelation a 1/4 part of the Earth is wiped off the map. Centering the world map at Jerusalem and reading your Bible you will see that lands North, South, and East of Jerusalem will still be around after the 4th seal.

The only 1/4 left is the West. Rome, USA, Canada, and Europe are west of Jerusalem, and will be judged in the 4th seal.

IMHO the Eastern Orthodox Church will be the largest denomination left, so maybe you are right. Either way the final church will be pure like it was in the book of Acts.

Stoned Prophet

I was raised a Catholic and go to a Thai protestant church now. I don't judge any denomination because they all have gotten off track in one way or the other. BUT I do have to say this gay, Satan conspiracy I read about a few days in the Vatican is an abomination in the temple big time. If they do not repent ASAP they will go down. That kind of disgusting sin is inexcusable and they will be judged PERIOD It is a shame because there are millions and millions of faithful Catholics in the world right now.
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No they are idolaters, idolaters are NOT Christians hence they cannot be the center of no Christian world.

Also what part of: This world is not my home

is it they do not understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40442991


How are they idolators? Orthodox Christians are not Catholic - do not have statues, do not worship the Pope and are far closer to original Christianity than Protestants.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Exactly! Orthodoxy I believe is the Church of Philadelphia....
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Wow you figured it out too.

In the 4th seal of Revelation a 1/4 part of the Earth is wiped off the map. Centering the world map at Jerusalem and reading your Bible you will see that lands North, South, and East of Jerusalem will still be around after the 4th seal.

The only 1/4 left is the West. Rome, USA, Canada, and Europe are west of Jerusalem, and will be judged in the 4th seal.

IMHO the Eastern Orthodox Church will be the largest denomination left, so maybe you are right. Either way the final church will be pure like it was in the book of Acts.

Stoned Prophet

I was raised a Catholic and go to a Thai protestant church now. I don't judge any denomination because they all have gotten off track in one way or the other. BUT I do have to say this gay, Satan conspiracy I read about a few days in the Vatican is an abomination in the temple big time. If they do not repent ASAP they will go down. That kind of disgusting sin is inexcusable and they will be judged PERIOD It is a shame because there are millions and millions of faithful Catholics in the world right now.
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I agree with you totally..Do you think CHristian Orthodoxy is
The Church of Philadelphia? I think it is.....
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No they are idolaters, idolaters are NOT Christians hence they cannot be the center of no Christian world.

Also what part of: This world is not my home

is it they do not understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40442991


How are they idolators? Orthodox Christians are not Catholic - do not have statues, do not worship the Pope and are far closer to original Christianity than Protestants.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Exactly! Orthodoxy I believe is the Church of Philadelphia....
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Woah! Quit reading my mind! Or was I reading yours? :)
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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No they are idolaters, idolaters are NOT Christians hence they cannot be the center of no Christian world.

Also what part of: This world is not my home

is it they do not understand?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40442991


How are they idolators? Orthodox Christians are not Catholic - do not have statues, do not worship the Pope and are far closer to original Christianity than Protestants.
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


Exactly! Orthodoxy I believe is the Church of Philadelphia....
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Woah! Quit reading my mind! Or was I reading yours? :)
 Quoting: Rev StarGazer


The Holy Spirit doing GOD's work in his people!
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Glad you posted that .. I oh so agree, America will be fine right up to the opening of the seals. [ sky rolling up like a scroll ,AS SEEN FROM PATMOS !

Remember the Clovis Impact? [ mastodon Killer , tektite field creator , burner of the entire north American continent [black matt], creator of the great lakes and 3 million "Carolina bays" it will hit near where it did last time , the USA is not in the Mediterranean were half a world away! ]

One Day the USA must go with our Creator and Savior Jesus!!

most death in those days are from seismically shattered surface aquifers [ water goes deep], and no preperations , like a 5 year food stockpile..

the USA will be fine until the end .. Lets Hope Russia can grow up between now and then ... I Know they will.. THEY HAVE TO!

Wow you figured it out too.

In the 4th seal of Revelation a 1/4 part of the Earth is wiped off the map. Centering the world map at Jerusalem and reading your Bible you will see that lands North, South, and East of Jerusalem will still be around after the 4th seal.

The only 1/4 left is the West. Rome, USA, Canada, and Europe are west of Jerusalem, and will be judged in the 4th seal.

IMHO the Eastern Orthodox Church will be the largest denomination left, so maybe you are right. Either way the final church will be pure like it was in the book of Acts.

Stoned Prophet

I was raised a Catholic and go to a Thai protestant church now. I don't judge any denomination because they all have gotten off track in one way or the other. BUT I do have to say this gay, Satan conspiracy I read about a few days in the Vatican is an abomination in the temple big time. If they do not repent ASAP they will go down. That kind of disgusting sin is inexcusable and they will be judged PERIOD It is a shame because there are millions and millions of faithful Catholics in the world right now.
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it's what the J Bolsheviks were trying to stop
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well Edgar Cayce said ’again through Russia comes hope of the world’. This once beautiful land called America is not longer the beacon for mankind that's for sure.
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FIRST -

In this first short example, Cayce - in the 1930s - indicated the 'sins' of the key nations:

America - has forgotten "in God we trust"
England - conceit
France - lust
China - isolationism
India - internalization of knowledge
Italy - dissensions


He said "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world." The statement about the 'conceit' (of the Zionist London Banksters?) in England is extraordinary. Just look at the Zionist conquest of Europe under the EU. The comment about America having forgotten "in God we Trust" is beyond eerily accurate. Remember, these statements were made in the 1930s
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2 more threads you may find interesting

Thread: Any Orthodox Christians Here?

Thread: The Complete Guide To Greek Christian Orthodox Monks Prophecies About WW3 And The Events Coming!!!
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson

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FIRST -

In this first short example, Cayce - in the 1930s - indicated the 'sins' of the key nations:

America - has forgotten "in God we trust"
England - conceit
France - lust
China - isolationism
India - internalization of knowledge
Italy - dissensions


He said "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world." The statement about the 'conceit' (of the Zionist London Banksters?) in England is extraordinary. Just look at the Zionist conquest of Europe under the EU. The comment about America having forgotten "in God we Trust" is beyond eerily accurate. Remember, these statements were made in the 1930s
 Quoting: christian


You lose Trust in God when you put it in your government, especially welfare. Now i think Welfare is a GREAT system, except under the circumstances of our current time in this matrix we are made to DEPEND on welfare. How it should be is that we EMBRACE struggle, and allow welfare to be there to get us back up when we have fallen, not turn a net into a hammock.

On the other hand, as i said, all the circumstances only allow us to think and discuss how things should be, things are not how they should be, so using the net as a hammock although takes away one's trust in God is needed to sustain life without trust in Him, and there is plenty of that.

May all be well, happy and healthy, good and righteous.
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People! Do not be naive!
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Thank you.
But i think your words will fall on deaf ears.

..a mixture of russian soul, where feminine rules, and some form of magickal christianity can *never* be the centre.
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FIRST -

In this first short example, Cayce - in the 1930s - indicated the 'sins' of the key nations:

America - has forgotten "in God we trust"
England - conceit
France - lust
China - isolationism
India - internalization of knowledge
Italy - dissensions


He said "Russia will become beacons of hope for the world." The statement about the 'conceit' (of the Zionist London Banksters?) in England is extraordinary. Just look at the Zionist conquest of Europe under the EU. The comment about America having forgotten "in God we Trust" is beyond eerily accurate. Remember, these statements were made in the 1930s
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you are So Naive.

why the hell you keep posting things you know *** about ???

the 'hope of the world'
was said as "Evils hope for the world"

russia is Evils Crown
"evils feminine rule "
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If I didn't have family that I love so much I would move to Russia (If they'd have me). Putin has balls, I like his style.
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America - surrender
England - surrender
France - surrender
Italy - surrender
Russia - surrender
Euro - surrender

bye bye freedom
welcome to jungle
bad is good , good is bad


YOUR LOSE !!!
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America - surrender
England - surrender
France - surrender
Italy - surrender
Russia - surrender
Euro - surrender

bye bye freedom
welcome to jungle
bad is good , good is bad


YOUR LOSE !!!
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