Christians love the Bible because the stories cannot be proved or disproved

Christians don't operate off of evidence, although there is plenty there. They operate off revelation. As in God reveals Himself as the True God by the power of the Holy Spirit, and they will by majority, face death than to denounce the reality of an eternal God that is the very life giver and the life restorerer to a daily dying and destroyed humanity.

But you wouldn't understand in all you forty to sixty six years of wisdom that tells you that you are your own life giver and master.

You're just looking to scoff.

If you think about it, pretty much nothing can be proved regarding what we think about 2-4,000 years ago

but you only want to hate God, I understand...

Many parts of the Bible have been shown to be historically accurate. If nothing else, it's a book about history.

That being said...pretty dumb thread. Not much of a lead in for debate.

and neither part has been proven historically untrue...

well the Bible tell us that the United States will be Attacked by Russia, China and Iran, by many invading armies, some of whom are being shipped in by night.. The bible says that the United States will be completely destroyed so much so in fact that not one man women or child shall be left alive...


Lets see if it comes true? If it doesnt happen then you are correct and we are wrong....


I bet you it is correct and you will remember this thread.

Yeah but Mohammed and moses are sooo real? May ass. NONE of it can be proven and yet 90% of humanity are addled fucktards that cause nothing but trouble over fairy tales.

You are free to choose delusion if you wish... but it does not stand the test of logic... what are you saying OP?

The bible was written by the same types of people you hear on the George Norrie show. People that would rather make up a story and swear it is true that get a real job.

Bible students are able to line up scripture with history

it isn't hard but you do have to study quite a bit to learn the languages

the Bible traces all the great empires (and major events) through time

Babylon, Persian, Greek, Roman

The French Revolution is in there! All the great wars, conquests, the forming and breaking up of empires.

OP, you obviously don't have a clue on the subject.

You have little concept of life was like outside of your own experience.

Subjective = Personal experience not necessarily verifiable by another. 'internal' conscious experience originating in physical ('outward' directed senses), emotional, mental or Spiritual ('inward' directed aspects). May be subject to what is speculated as 'delusion'.

Objective = Commonly verifiable by repeated demonstration using calibrated test equipment and statistics (expressed as a 'percentage of confidence' however, reaching 100% confidence is NEVER possible). Conscious experience directed to 'external' calibrated meter (Hewlett Packard, Techtronix, Spectra Physics, IBM etc) for complete evaluation and meaning of life and the 'physical' world/universe and what influential and charismatic 'scientists' & 'academia' will ALLOW discussed and 'permited' within it (!).

Transjective = Conscious repeatable experience commonly verifiable by any who are skilled at enabling a STATE CHANGE within themselves (many historical methods). This enables an extremely enhanced range of Conscious experience transcending simple physically verifiable events 'proven' by test equipment sensors, meters, statistics detected WITHIN the ElectroMagnetic spectrum.

absurdly simple example;

Perfectly tart/sweetened lemonade.
There is NOT a sensor or meter (on the planet) that can 'objectively' prove and verify the existence of the 'flavor' PERFECTLY TART/SWEETENED LEMONADE. Your subjective and speculated 'objective' existence of this physical, emotional, mental and Spiritual FACT readily experienced by any and ALL.

Thank You Tom Menderle for posing the word trasjective...

Last Edited by Being * gnieB on 07/02/2013 08:28 AM