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New Study Suggests That 60 Billion(!) Alien Planets Could Support Life

 
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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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wanna go there i am tired of here thsi shity planet and taxes
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Ok ok that planet looks blue...that's one

ok ok that planet well it is a good distance from a sun so... that's two


lol whatever
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So you have sources that, through scientific method, have produced results such as spontaneous life happening?

Please share..:
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[link to newscenter.berkeley.edu]

Granted it you can't do this in a lab. But the numbers work. Now for your proof of an intelligent designer.
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No.

That's not proof of anything.


Try again...
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You asked for sources that produced results of spontaneous life using the scientific method. I provided a source. here is another one.
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

The findings are fascinating, said Ralf Kaiser, a physical chemist who studies astrochemistry at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

"It opens another pathway to explain how these biological, or precursor molecules can be formed," Kaiser, who was not involved in the study, told LiveScience.

The team has shown that such precursor molecules "absolutely could be formed this way, no question," Kaiser said.

But it's not all or nothing: Some molecules could have been carried here by comets from outer space, while some formed on impact, and still others formed completely from home-grown materials. The tricky question is to determine what percentage of life's building blocks arose during each process, Kaiser said.

Of course you'll dismiss this as not proving anything, so I'll ask you for proof of an intelligent designer (which of course you'll not be able to adequately provide) and this back and forth can continue for all eternity. So I'll save us both some time by saying that hard scientific fact backs my argument, while blind illogical faith backs yours, and we will never be able to convince the other one that they are wrong.
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So...

Spontaneous life happened in a lab then?

I didn't read that in your sources...
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[link to newscenter.berkeley.edu]

Granted it you can't do this in a lab. But the numbers work. Now for your proof of an intelligent designer.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity



No.

That's not proof of anything.


Try again...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25618393


You asked for sources that produced results of spontaneous life using the scientific method. I provided a source. here is another one.
[link to www.huffingtonpost.com]

The findings are fascinating, said Ralf Kaiser, a physical chemist who studies astrochemistry at the University of Hawaii at Manoa.

"It opens another pathway to explain how these biological, or precursor molecules can be formed," Kaiser, who was not involved in the study, told LiveScience.

The team has shown that such precursor molecules "absolutely could be formed this way, no question," Kaiser said.

But it's not all or nothing: Some molecules could have been carried here by comets from outer space, while some formed on impact, and still others formed completely from home-grown materials. The tricky question is to determine what percentage of life's building blocks arose during each process, Kaiser said.

Of course you'll dismiss this as not proving anything, so I'll ask you for proof of an intelligent designer (which of course you'll not be able to adequately provide) and this back and forth can continue for all eternity. So I'll save us both some time by saying that hard scientific fact backs my argument, while blind illogical faith backs yours, and we will never be able to convince the other one that they are wrong.
 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


So...

Spontaneous life happened in a lab then?

I didn't read that in your sources...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25618393


Yeah, in a lab they crashed a comet into the earth creating the protein chains that can form life... Halfwit they did it in a computer simulation (in case you are extra thick a simulation is a computer representation of real world physics.) If it worked in this program it would ABSOLUTELY work in the real world. There isn't a single credible scientist who disagrees with these findings. But like I said earlier, hard scientific fact back my argument, while blind illogical faith backs yours, and we will never be able to convince the other one that they are wrong.
There is a theory which states that if ever anybody discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened.
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So what, how the fuck are you (or anybody) going to get there? Save the wasted money and repair this one as best we can.

What was another loser idea of the space industry, oh yeah, mine methane on a moon of Jupiter. Anybody do the math on how much fuel you would use in braking from Jupiter's pull just to land on the moon and then take off and trying to escape from Jupiter's pull (rather than the tiny moon we were supposed to 'visit'?

BTW it took 4B years to terraform earth, nobody can wait that wrong, if we head for one in a 'finished state' it will have 'died and gone cold' before we could even get there at full burn.

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Consider:

- New evidence suggests that carbon-based DNA (OUR DNA) actually dates back to over 8 billion years old.
- The Earth is only around 4.7 billion years old.
- Science's general consensus is that the first unicellular prokaryotic carbon-based forms got to this planet by way of space travel (whether that be planet hopping on asteroids, space floating like "water bears," or wormholes

All this information leads us to several close-to-certain conclusions:

1. Our predecessors almost DEFINITELY did NOT start on Earth
2. The prokaryotic carbon-based cells are suited for space travel
3. They either happened randomly upon this planet or we were "seeded"

With these safe assumptions, it is logical to assume that these prokaryotic cells are and have been (FOR A LONG TIME) floating around space and landing anywhere that is suited to carbon-based evolution. It happened TWICE just on this planet. One evolution chain on the surface, spawning from photosynthetic unicellular life and one at the bottom of the oceans, spawned from chemosynthetic unicellular things.

It is likely that (and this is excluding all the other potential unknown types of life out there, not to mention things that may exist outside of this dimensional plane) there are literally BILLIONS of planets out there supporting chains of life from the same DNA strands that found their way here. Remember, we're talking about a space that (so far as we know) is infinitely expansive. Of course there are unlimited planets that could support extraterrestrial life. In the end it would only be illogical to assume otherwise.
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They may still be here :)


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Well, just look at the math. Google the drake equation and you can see clearly that the possibility for life outside our solar system is not only possible, but likely. I have no doubt there is life out there, but, whether they are actively visiting earth, that's a whole other can of worms.
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If the universe is infinite, I would think there would be an infinite amount of planets that would support life.
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Worry about THIS planet, sheep-apes.
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I want my own damn planet.
That would be paradise.
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60 billion seems to me to be a tiny number considering that there are hundred of billions of galaxies with hundred of billions of stars each.
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If you had read the article it says that the Milky Way alone could host 60 billion habitable planets.
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The researchers' paper goes on to say '...so now we need loads more dosh to definitively identify these planets...'
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New study says "Look how fucking big the universe is... there are billions of planets with life, each of them looking out into the expanse of space and feeling lonely. News at 11:00."
'Faith' is the acknowledgment that you have absolutely no justification for the silly shit you believe.
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and that's just the milky way... imagine andromeda...
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If the conditions for life to exist are present, life will exist. If the conditions for life to exist are not present, life will not exist.

Simple as that.

There is life on Earth because the proper conditions exist. There is no life on the moon because the proper conditions do not exist.
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There's no such thing as "conditions" for generating life. That is complete sci-fi fantasy.

All science confirms the law of biogenesis. Life only follows from life. That leaves the atheist/evolutionist in a sticky situation because his religion tells him life must have magically manifested itself by some nature-defying string of accidents.

And sorry, getting atheist High Priest Lawrency Krauss up on stage preaching anti-science sermons about everything coming from nothing, does not quite cut it.

Nor does generating some individual part of a cell in a lab or, even better, a computer simulation.

You can't fight the science. The origin of life defies any known natural causes, emphatically so.

This pseudo-science spontaneous generation across the universe is nothing, NOTHING, but creative sci-fi writing.
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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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We will never get tot those other planets. And thank God they're safe from us!
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Oh no, Christians everywhere deny this and declare it heresy!!!

Burnings at the stake will commence shortly.
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It is fairly ego-centric to believe we are the only life in the universe.

The simple act of a comet impact releasing amino acids is enough for me to determine that.
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Right... Whatever you got to say to run away from God. I get it.
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Probably there are lots and lots of planets like that. 60 Billion? Why 60? I just luv when they throw around numbers like this without even knowing if the universe is finite or infinite...if it is infinite, this number has no validity. If it is finite, first need to know how large it is,otherwise the estimate is worthless again.
In lack of those I will vote this

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They are LIARS. They don't even know, show and tell what is at the bottom of our own planet's oceans, yet they can tell which planets harbor life and which don't and tell us a number in a supposed infinite of potential unknowns. BULLSHIT. How about some detailed pictures of the face and pyramids on Mars before you tell us how some galaxy far, far away might harbor life. Please, more mumbo jumbo from FOOLS who know nothing, wouldn't know a truth if it slapped them in the face. Trying to impress the mindless and clueless sheeple into believing and trusting that they know what they are doing, WHEN CLEARLY THEY DO NOT.

Cure the common cold before you worry about a planet light years away. What's the point if the majority will never go there anyways? Fix your own house first.

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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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anyone can make up bullshit, fool
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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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I guess 60,000,000,000 is as good a number to poll out of your ass as any.
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At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success.

Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later.

All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth.

If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows?
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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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And not ONE SINGLE SIGNAL from ANYWHERE
in the universe, except from us.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10174752


That we can recognize.


 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Save your money and go get a degree in Electrical
Engineering.
Learn what signals are.
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Pfttt.
Another one dimensional thinker.

So pompous....yet so clueless.

wtfspock
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At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success.

Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later.

All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth.

If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows?
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Yes we “have all our eggs in one basket”. So why would we want to soil another basket? If we can't get to a certain level here on Earth we don't deserve to spread our disfunction elsewhere.
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Study. ......looooooooooooooooool
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[link to www.space.com]

That's 60,000,000,000,000

alien16alien11alien
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And not ONE SINGLE SIGNAL from ANYWHERE
in the universe, except from us.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10174752


That we can recognize.


 Quoting: AgnosticDeity


Save your money and go get a degree in Electrical
Engineering.
Learn what signals are.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10174752


dumbass

If they were using tech the same as ours, or very much similar, we most likely could recognize it... We have no proof or evidence that they do (at least not available to the public). However, it would be very "convenient" if they did.

It is naive to believe that what we use is what they would use. What if they have mastered Organic tech... Or Crystal tech... Or (UNKNOWN) tech...
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If the conditions for life to exist are present, life will exist. If the conditions for life to exist are not present, life will not exist.

Simple as that.

There is life on Earth because the proper conditions exist. There is no life on the moon because the proper conditions do not exist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18242403


There's no such thing as "conditions" for generating life. That is complete sci-fi fantasy.

All science confirms the law of biogenesis. Life only follows from life. That leaves the atheist/evolutionist in a sticky situation because his religion tells him life must have magically manifested itself by some nature-defying string of accidents.

And sorry, getting atheist High Priest Lawrency Krauss up on stage preaching anti-science sermons about everything coming from nothing, does not quite cut it.

Nor does generating some individual part of a cell in a lab or, even better, a computer simulation.

You can't fight the science. The origin of life defies any known natural causes, emphatically so.

This pseudo-science spontaneous generation across the universe is nothing, NOTHING, but creative sci-fi writing.
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You're an absolute ignorant fool. You don't have the mental capacity to understand science and how it works. God is cop out for lack of knowledge. Can't explain it? God must have done it!

That is until there is nothing left that science can't explain and people like you are left grasping at nothing. Yes, the very nothing that could spark the beginning of a universe.

In 10,000 years God will be forgotten thanks to advancements in science. You can think what'd you like; BUT IT'S WRONG.

It's a shame you can't understand how wrong and stupid you are. It's because of people like you the world is so fucked up.
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It is fairly ego-centric to believe we are the only life in the universe.

The simple act of a comet impact releasing amino acids is enough for me to determine that.
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Right... Whatever you got to say to run away from God. I get it.
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I don't consider science a barrier to knowing a Creator.

I believe in God..

Man and organized religion.. not so much.
Too many different stories.
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It is fairly ego-centric to believe we are the only life in the universe.

The simple act of a comet impact releasing amino acids is enough for me to determine that.
 Quoting: Waterbug


Right... Whatever you got to say to run away from God. I get it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42717084


I don't consider science a barrier to knowing a Creator.

I believe in God..

Man and organized religion.. not so much.
Too many different stories.
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"Science without Religion Is Lame, Religion without Science Is Blind"
-Einstein
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At some point, it would be great if humans built an enormous ship (maybe several of them to increase chances of survival) and try to get to the most compatible planet possible. The ships would probably have to be as big as large cities with many redundant systems to help ensure success. Many generations of people would live and die on these ships before getting to the destination planet and there’s no guarantee of success.

Currently, we “have all our eggs in one basket” here on Earth. Humans are natural explorers. Maybe it’s time to see if we can make a go of it in space. Maybe our technology is not ready today, but I hope this can be done sooner than later.

All it would take is one of those big asteroids that narrowly misses us (all too often) to wipe out all (or most) life on Earth.

If not humans, I believe some sort of life from this planet should live on elsewhere in the universe. Like a previous poster said, it (panspermia) could be how life came to be on Earth in the first place, who knows?
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At what speed earth moves thru space.......why would not this be a space ship....you in your physical state is a seed........at death you ether fall in good soil or bad soil........yes.....galaxy is a seed spreader.

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