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AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"

 
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AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"
Is their a conspiracy with the AA and NA sobriety chips that people get? I noticed on an 18 month one that I saw that it had a pyramid with a circle in the middle with the 'date' of sobriety.

I checked the AA.org website and it said:

The Circle and Triangle symbol has long been connected to the A.A. Fellowship. It was adopted as an official A.A. symbol at the International Convention in St. Louis in 1955, and from that point on was widely used in the Fellowship. For the Fellowship, the three legs of the triangle represented the Three Legacies of Recovery, Unity and Service, and the circle symbolized the world of A.A. In Alcoholics Anonymous Comes of Age, Bill W.’s 1955 speech, in which he describes the adoption of the symbol, is printed:

“Above us floats a banner on which is inscribed the new symbol for A.A., a circle enclosing a triangle. The circle stands for the whole world of A.A., and the triangle stands for A.A.’s Three Legacies of Recovery, Unity, and Service. Within our wonderful new world, we have found freedom from our fatal obsession. That we have chose this particular symbol is perhaps no accident. The priests and seers of antiquity regarded the circle enclosing the triangle as a means of warding off the spirits of evil, and A.A.’s circle and triangle of Recovery, Unity, and Service has certainly meant all of that to us and much more.” (p. 139)

Nevertheless, in the early 1990s, A.A.W.S. decided to phase out the use of the Circle and Triangle symbol on its literature, letterhead and other material. It was decided to phase out the “official” or “legal” use of the Circle and Triangle symbol, and in 1994 the General Service Conference resolved that the logo be discontinued on all Conference-approved literature. However, the symbol is still associated with Alcoholics Anonymous (and other kinds of 12-Step recovery fellowships) and has a special meaning for AA members all over the world.


Could this have been setup from the beginning? To slowly introduce the 'concept' and symbolism behind the pyramid/all seeing eye? Does anyone have any information on this? I have never been to AA or NA so I don't know the process.
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Re: AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"
It's got a religious base - AA - so maybe it's a "god is watching" kind of thing but with a nod in the direction of the living gods, i.e. TPTB?
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Ummm...NO. No conspiracy.

And it is not religious, it is spiritual, one of the fundamentals is the every individual chooses their own higher power....and even gets sober without recognizing "God".
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Ummm...NO. No conspiracy.

And it is not religious, it is spiritual, one of the fundamentals is the every individual chooses their own higher power....and even gets sober without recognizing "God".
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Ummm...NO. No conspiracy.

And it is not religious, it is spiritual, one of the fundamentals is the every individual chooses their own higher power....and even gets sober without recognizing "God".
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That's what they "tell" you...

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Ummm...NO. No conspiracy.

And it is not religious, it is spiritual, one of the fundamentals is the every individual chooses their own higher power....and even gets sober without recognizing "God".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515994


That's what they "tell" you...

Come here and let me slaphim
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Mock all you want, I tried to quit for 20 years on my own and almost died. It helped me stop, I'm no slave to it and no longer go but I'd recommend it to anyone.
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Re: AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"
Ummm...NO. No conspiracy.

And it is not religious, it is spiritual, one of the fundamentals is the every individual chooses their own higher power....and even gets sober without recognizing "God".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515994


That's what they "tell" you...

Come here and let me slaphim
 Quoting: Seagal695


Mock all you want, I tried to quit for 20 years on my own and almost died. It helped me stop, I'm no slave to it and no longer go but I'd recommend it to anyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1515994


Not mocking the effort of the support group....it is the symbolism and the hidden agenda. It's sad that there are many industries, infiltrated by an agenda, while helping those in need, who are innocently unaware. That's all.

Congrats to your sobriety hf
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Re: AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"
AA tells people they are powerless and their lives are unmanageable and they need to rely on a higher power that can be the group. They are told they must make a fearless moral inventory and confess their secret wrongs to another member. If they don't do these steps they could drink until they die.

AA has the exact same recovery rate as people who wake up one day and decide they won't drink no more.

So who would like people to think they are powerless, unable to manage themselves and in need of a higher power that knows their incriminating secrets?
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Re: AA token symbol "Pyramid/All seeing eye"
Every major organisation, whether of charity or for profit, is branded with the occult illumination symbols in their logos - whether it's the a for Apollo, 666, the Horus eye, the pyramid, the colours, sodomy signalling, 33 or the squared circle.

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